Does any of the big 4 take in fresh grads to their advisory line? pls share your insights in this field ^^

MAy i know wat means by Group A?!

Correction / Update:  the Bold Moores Rowland is being changed name to Mazars Malaysia

and this is what they say..audit..you can throw a stone and you will find a lot of people in audit..and the poll of senior position is NOT a lot ..in a company you only have ONE CFO

"Alot of corporate guys and top bankers have their background in audit"

I don;t think that is a good assessment ..We are on the subject of the No one man/Woman of the company..and if you search through the financial news like Forbes etc.there is NOT a lot from Audit backgroud..The CFO might be..but the CEO is either from Finance..investment bankers or marketing based...ALL COMPANIES are Sales driven  EVEN auditing firms are sales driven  so the partner of a n audit firm changes his role when he become s the engaging aprtnet  he becomes a mearketing man and market his audit firm and services.

Audit is a good stepping stone if you aspire to be an accountant or an audit manager..BUT to move up the laddrer you have to be  a marketier..because bottom line is you ahve to market yourself taht you can take the company to a higher level..number crunching after the effect is not going to help you in your career  but knowing how to look at the numbers on a big picture basis and the overall coming togethre together of the finanace.market,sales and operation startegy makes the company move forward in a dynamic way in the difficult matrix puzzle of the business world

Accetera........Just for your own interest  go to the website LONDON BUSINESS SCHOOL ..and go to the icon MBA TV..and see and hear what the graduates have to say..you will be inspired to achieve your dream to reality..

I have learn alot from observing my dad and his friends and how thye achieve things..and I believe that it is achievable...I am only starting in my first job now and only 21+  but I know what i want and have a plan to achieve my goal..

Good luck in yours..

anyway wat do u guys think bout deloitte? Hows the working environment n ppl over there. Any overseas job ?

citibank kena left out ?

I am keen on it too. Lets say I've worked for 1 year @ a Malaysian Big Four. Now I request a transfer to an Australian Big Four. How do I go about it?

Do I resign and then apply to the Australian Big Four myself? Or do they do it for me? What if I resign here, and then they say they have no place for me there suddenly O_O

GG-lah =/

Excuse me, EY is da best and KPMG is lousy? Sweats, It is depending on da tasks/clientele/opportunities you have got rather than your firm's reputation. For your information, I know EY people who failed exams more than 10 times and 2nd class lower, yet are still working in EY so you perceive that they're smarter? Every Big4 has their pro and cons  I have sisters and relative from all Big4, this is what I get to know...

PwC-
Big Conglomerates, Reputably being da best in Malaysia, equipped their auditors with many career development trainings and paperless audit guidance. Public transport convenience
But most of my friends can only audit 1-5 companies in their first 3 years there, as the clients are too huge.

EY-
Has most no. of listed clients ard 250+, so likely always get to audit listed client.
However, they are industry-focused (GFS, SVS TCE, REC), extremely expensive parking at least RM10/day (I'm sure you would go back to office often) and 50% paperless audit, and look at their IAFG results despite boasting da biggest workforce.

KPMG- da Leading Big4 in Banking & Finl Audit with Citi, StdChar, Public, OCBC, most convenient for outstation's employees as nearby to housing area and beside OneUtama, in case you need to stay up to late night. Cheap parking.
But they're extremely rules & regulations bounded, disallowed their employees to surf internet, facebooking, only recently changing to paperless audit, so you expect yourself to carry many files everywhere and being da best friend to printers.

Deloitte-
da Best in Taxation, their Employee's background are more well-rounded with da mixture of academic & co-cu excellence, Champs in IAFG, 100% paperless audit software AuditSystem2 and can learn every industry. Cheap parking.
However, their clientele base is not that wide, lacked of blue-chipped clients, less benefits, and last ranked Big4 in Malaysia.

Many students have da wrong perception about Big4, often they don't really understand how does da corp rank them, it is actually entirely based on Revenue and Market Capitalisation. You are NOT da one going to pocket those revenue in da end, therefore personally I believe that da opportunities and exposures that you'll be gaining, should be da main factor of your final decision.

Being da worse amongst those top scorers in PwC, under-performing & low morale. Or being da Hero amongst da average good in other Big4, and enjoying good performance evaluations and happiness?

World Ranking
Firm                        Revenues  Employees  Fiscal Year  Source
PricewaterhouseCoopers  $26.2bn  163,000  2009  [1]
Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu  $26.1bn  169,000  2009  [2]
Ernst & Young                  $21.4bn  144,441  2009  [3]
KPMG                          $20.11bn  135,000  2009  [4]

Malaysia Ranking
PwC, EY, KPMG, Deloitte...

I'm Malaccan anyway

Can anyone tell me wat is the minimunt requirement to get a job in big 4 as an auditor?? Tq^^

Well, there is a list of clients for all the Big Four firms on Wikipedia  . I was just wondering whether the Malaysian side employs the same auditors as their main headquarters? I do know HSBC and Citibank employ KPMG as auditors and maintain that all their branches worldwide also do the same.  Its the same case for IBM whose auditors are PwC. Though I do know of some cases where one Big Four will audit certain subsidiaries of one company and the rest are done by a different Big Four.