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Armesh
post Dec 3 2014, 07:36 PM

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1 hour in the gym shud be max.
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post Dec 4 2014, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(faifai94 @ Dec 4 2014, 12:18 AM)
one hour is not enough for squat, overhead press and deadlift or squat, bench press and row in a session lol
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Starting Strength is only 1 hour per session. And doing a 8-12 rep range program myself, i can squat, bench, deadlift, overhead press in 45mins.

If your workouts take longer than 1 hour.... something surely wrong.
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post Dec 4 2014, 07:05 PM

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Rule no 1: Never ever make your own routine.

Rule no 2: Never do a bodypart split if you are natural

Rule 1 can only and only be violated if you have years and years of READING on strength programming and time in the gym with an almost 1000lbs total.
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post Dec 5 2014, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(pangke @ Dec 4 2014, 09:57 PM)
guess you're right...i did chest and legs today (squats and leg press only, can no longer do a deadlift)
i can do it back then but maybe because the weights were lighter compared to now.

anyway, rule no.2...so you mean i should do a full body workout instead of splitting?
i've been doing body part split years ago then stopped for a year or so and did more running then went back to weight lifting january of this year...
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If you are at advance stage - http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/...tandardsKg.html - then you can do a Push Pull/Lower Upper split. But then again, refer to Rule No 1.
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post Dec 6 2014, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(pangke @ Dec 6 2014, 12:25 AM)
i fall under the untrained category in squats lol doh.gif
very nice reference you provided bro...highly appreciate it! rclxms.gif
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Always welcome. With proper training and diet, you should be able to squat bodyweight in 2.7 months. I myself have done it using a program similar to Starting Strength. 61KG squat at 61KG Bodyweight.

Novice shud be achievable in 4 months. Best part is I know so many guys in the gym who took 1 year to squat bodyweight because of bodypart splits (leg day).
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post Dec 6 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Dec 5 2014, 05:10 PM)
Is it alright if I take shoulder off my pushday and do them on a separate day so I can focus them more? I used to do them all on  my pushday but I felt like I can't really push my shoulders hard enough after chest. And if I do shoulders first, I will not be able to do chest with my intended intensity.

I still do all body parts twice a week.
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I think it's absolutely fine then. For some people their bench press hits their anterior deltoids hard, it's just the way you are built probably. As for me flat bench does not feel anything on my shoulders, just triceps and chest.

Since you are doing all body parts 2x per week it's still good and you seem to have some good knowledge and training experience also.

I will still refer to - Rule no 1: Never ever make your own routine - and make a routine based on a proven template.
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post Dec 7 2014, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(faifai94 @ Dec 6 2014, 08:57 PM)
agree, for me strong lift 5x5 is such a great foundation for 2x bw squat haha
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Stronglifts 5x5 is crap, there's like 0 sense behind that program. You should do 3 sets at max, like Starting Strength.

Reference:
http://www.weightrainer.net/training/reps.html

Steve Shaw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZcu_0Xpedc...t=TLfiOtUbzpsK8

and also my personal experience which validates both of those reference.


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post Dec 7 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(faifai94 @ Dec 7 2014, 01:31 AM)
i dont know whether it is crap or not, i just knew that it works for me, until around 110kg@5x5 squat, 65kg@5x5 bench, 120kg@1X5 deadlift, then i only switch to madcow style, ramp up sets, or 3x3, or light day 5x5 / 7x3

thanks for the reference anyway, because stronglift 5x5 will be too intense for heavier weights
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Wow thats pretty decent. You took deloads sometimes izit? Like 1 week do everything 20% less weight?

Btw 110kg squat was done at what bodyweight?

 

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