I think Shell isnt the best friend to Exora.
Previously i was on several fill ups of Petron. Then few days ago, with my fuel gauge still remaining 2 bars left, my father took it for a drive, and fill up RM 80 worth of Shell.

Just FYI, after i last filled up with Petron, i reset the Average Fuel consumption, took it for a drive to Klang to and fro, and was using the highway (including speeding up to 130km/h) . I did encounter some traffic jam in Klang and slow speed driving (finding car park). I had covered about 120km before the tank was filled up with Shell.

when it was last with Petron it was still showing around 10.6l/100km, but after just a short 25km drive of the recently filled up Shell, now its showing 11.1L/100km . I didnt reset the fc meter either.
(I took photos of the trip meter and the avg fuel consumption before this incident happened)

And furthermore yesterday when i took it for a drive nearby, without triggering the turbo boost and driving as gently as possible, with the aid of the Instant Fuel Consumption reading, the moment i reached home and turn off the engine, the fan started running
Previously with Petron, it didnt trigger the fan on gentle drives. And the fc seems to has gotten worse (from 10.6l/100km to 11.1l/100km) with gentle drives

Now i know that if one were to frequently drive with the turbo boost activated, it will activate the fan. However yesterday i was driving real gentle, doing max speed only 65km/h.

So i could only comment that Shell does bring some noticeable effect to Exora's engine.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Dec 6 2014, 09:17 AM

Your mentality is almost just like my parents and sister , care about collecting Bonuslink points, dun care about petrol quality. If I tell them Petron is better than Shell, they will comment "Aiya, all petrol are the same one".
Even I have Genting World Card, also find it slow to collect points if pump at BHP.

I also dun like Shell cause I used it for other cars, and it never lives to it's tagline:
Designed to last longer per tank.

Caltex in Subang quite hard to get. I only know SS14, Sunway (opposite Sunway Pyramid) and USJ 16. Thats all in whole of Subang.

BTW, yesterday I went out with my other car, stop by at BHP (next to SJBA Vihara) and wash my car for only RM 3

Dun like the rims too.

Anyway so far my EB is okay, except 1-2 minor things;

1) Highly not recommended to use Shell fuel. FC is unbelivably atrocious.
2) Headlamp focus not good. My hand feel like gatal want to change the halogen bulb to something like OSRAM Night Breaker or PIAA Xtreme White (I want to change to White, just only concern JPJ will kacau).

Anyone can suggest a good H4 halogen bulb?

Mine is Bold Standard edition.. Lagi no fog lights.
I do think its the cheap halogen bulb quality that Proton supplied with the car. Havent open mine yet to see what brand.

How old / whats the mileage of the car already?

Yes, It's the characteristic of the wet-clutch in action.
Below 15km/h, it will slip alot to move the car first, then the moment it approaches 15km/h, the computer will fully engage the clutch. Its like driving a manual car; in manual you slip the clutch first in 1st gear. But in this CVT, it does that for you automatically.
Itdepends on how gentle or how hard you step the accelerator. The computer detects how gentle you press your accelerator.
The more gentle you press, the slower it fully engages the clutch.

So if you want to run from dead stop faster, Easy, press harder on the accelerator, and it will surge in front.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Dec 22 2014, 08:28 AM

Replied your earlier post here:
Your Car's Fuel Consumption

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Dec 26 2014, 08:16 AM

True. BTW I noticed if I were to keep it off-the-boost too much (city driving, in other words, drive like a granny on a Sunday morning) then the average FC will show up higher.
I think it's because when off boost...the engine becomes 1.6NA ,and has to move 1.5 ton mammoth + 7 adults , at slow speed.

I tried speeding once up to 130KM/h, just after reset the FC meter, FC was showing up good. But the moment I reach the Klang-Banting traffic lights (damn long timing) , FC shot up (yeah I know, idling wastes fuel).

So this car is abit odd. It loves to be on-boost, especially on faster speeds.

But yeah you are correct too. Too much boost spoils the whole FC. But in the end, it's the price we pay for all the power excitement.

Yes I have a screenshot of my FC meter. The FC meter was reset when on the 1 tank of Shell.
Previously was on 1 tank of Shell, so I completed 1 tank at 12.1L/100KM , so now I am trying out 1 tank of Petronas (just filled up yesterday)

Photo screenshot is my phone right now but I can't upload now. (Office PC dont allow USB connections)

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Dec 26 2014, 12:04 PM

As promised, here is my FC shot :



The fuel light was still blinking though.

Now on Petronas update, FC meter showing between 11.3-11.5L/100KM after travelling for about 50KMs, so its not the final figure.

alexei, car seldom drive (2nd car), only driven on weekends/holidays/whenever feel like it, thats why low mileage
2nd service, not even reach 5000KM already service

Something new I learn. 14-15:1 compression, almost like Mazda SkyActiv without turbo.

Anyway, I now learn to drive a little faster than a granny.
Yesterday tried to catch up with a Toyota Landcruiser Prado LX470 (4.7L V8 ) and a VW Jetta. Both are fast & furious driver, especially the Jetta.
Jetta obviously have good acceleration off the line, but Exora still can catch up with it later.
So no problem catching up. Proud of my EB.

Hi Bro.

According to the manual,



Usually I noticed, when the "Distance-To-Go" KM reaches around 60-65KM range, the fuel warning light will come on, and the fuel gauge will blink. And usually the "Distance to Go" meter will show " - - - " if go below 50KM.
Usually when the light comes up, still can travel from PJ back to Subang safely.

I dare not use until the last bar disappear.

VW Owner/Supporter detected. Anyways, welcome to the club.

Anyway I dont know what brings you here, but anyhow, welcome.

happyfriday Anyway why feel butt hurt? I didn't condemn the Jetta. And neither did I say Jetta is a crappy car. In fact before I gotten the Exora, I test drove the Jetta, Golf , Passat, and I actually liked the Passat, but unfortunately it's out of my reach now.

If you noticed my earlier comment, I only say I able to catch up. And I wasn't doing top speed just to catch up with him either. Was only doing 80-100Km/h on a normal 3-lane road. Just a short burst of mid-range acceleration.
If I said I overtaken the Jetta, I think I will have drawn even more criticisms.

And oh BTW, I have my daughter and wife on board
That Jetta which I "catch up" from behind, well I think he must have noticed, I caught up, then he started trying to lose sight of me, by zig-zagging between cars and lane. While I remain in my lane throughout the journey.
So in the end, who won? No need to have winners. Just enjoy your own cars.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Dec 29 2014, 08:07 PM

Turbo timer is to control the engine , how many minutes and seconds of idling before shutting down. It doesnt control the fan.
I noticed one of the ways to minimize the fan shutdown, is to drive slightly slower (off turbo boost) at the last few km of your destination i.e reaching home.
That method of driving slower, will give time for the turbo to cool down partly.

Hi,
Just to correct you a few things

1) This car uses electronic throttle/drive by wire throttle. So I wouldn't recommend cleaning it.
2) This car doesn't use torque converter. It uses a wet clutch.

The best is skunkz to send back to SC for clutch calibration as explained previously by Kristof of Punch PowerTrain.

Read the link here:

http://forum.autoworld.com.my/index.php?sh...8&#entry1823038

If still cannot, then try email Punch Powertrain Malaysia.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Jan 5 2015, 04:10 PM

Why do you want to dismantle? Just fold the 2 seats flat will do.

I have a solution for you for item #2. But you might not like it. Turn on the SAT mode.
It will limit your driving power slightly, but importanly, it psychologically reduces your temptation to boost.

Here is the manual btw



Lol. - Do Not Speed When Driving

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Jan 6 2015, 08:01 PM

10.4 is quite good already. need a light foot to achieve such figure.
my record is so far for mixed driving is 10.6l/100km on Petronas and Petron, but mostly steady highway driving mixed with some city driving conditions to get such figure.

to achieve such good fc, i think you must be constantly off turbo boost driving at constant speed and away from traffic jams.

Grand livina, is like an overpriced Alza. Its almost the same space as Alza.

exora is comparable with Innova spec, and beats it even, yet offering much cheaper price than even a Livina.

So for sure its better than Alza in every aspect.
Alza is not a full size MPV, Fyi. Its a stretch-up Myvi (im stating the fact . Go google about Toyota Passo Sette) . Its a 5+2 car. The last row of seat in the Alza, only acts as a mini 2 seater. Its good for children, but cramp for adults.

Especially the turbo is the part where it shines. Do not underestimate the power of a 1.6 turbo + CVT. Its way more powerful than Innova.

So far mine hasnt had any issues, touchwood.

Its due to the pre-Proton Mitsubishi era, the days of Proton Wira/Iswara/Saga, where built quality is bad, which haunts people from buying a Proton today. That is why Perodua sells more. Its because of people's perception; I buy a Perodua, I am buying a Toyota indirectly.
Furthermore if you notice Proton's way of designing cars, since the Proton Savvy days, they focus on designing the car to be more towards European/Conti. From engine to the body.

Unfortunately most Malaysians tend to prefer Japanese, reliable but dull looking. I actually like Proton's new Iriz compared to the so-called new MYVI facelift.

I still have the Proton Wira at home for daily usage, and a few things has fallen off itself as time goes by. Including the power window had failed few times.
But engine is still okay though. In fact its smoother than my friend's Myvi (1st generation).

But if you see today's Proton, built quality has improved substantially. But it will take time for Proton to build back their reputation which was damaged 1 decade ago.

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Jan 18 2015, 12:57 PM