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post Aug 13 2015, 02:06 AM

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Greetings Everyone,

I have no particular preference for any brands (but I see a lot of recommendations here for Dahon and Tern). Would like to test ride a few to see which model (and I gather from reading this thread that there are quite a few and some may be out of stock or discontinued) is suitable for me. I would placed comfort and ride smoothness as my main priority.

So I guess doing a test ride would be the best way to choose one that suits my liking.

Which bike shop in Klang Valley allows test ride. Thanks in advance.


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post Aug 18 2015, 12:50 AM

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Hello again everyone

Shortlisted Dahon Vybe C7 as my first folding bike. Any bike shop in Selangor/KL to get it from? Thanks.
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post Oct 23 2015, 01:14 PM

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Hi Everyone,

I have been riding a Dahon Vybe D7 for the last few months and I am loving it. Have been participating in some group rides covering distances of between 20km to 50 km each time. Very happy with the handling, built quality, folding mechanism but finds that the top speed on flat road a bit lacking in comparison to the other bikes in my group. I can hit 25km/h but will “free pedal” (I think that’s what it called) even if I increase my cadence. I think it is because it has only 1 X 7 gears.

Any upgrades I can do to the front and rear gears to increase my top speed and where can I get it done? My LBS that I bought the bike claims it cannot be done.

Thanks in advance guys.

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post Oct 23 2015, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Oct 23 2015, 02:01 PM)
That's because the smallest (Smaller means more revolutions to one crank from the front, ie. 52/14 = 3.7 turns of the rear wheels.)  The 7 speed starts from 14 cogs to 28 cogs maximum. The normal smallest cogs for an 8,9 and 10 speed are 11 cogs. So that's 3 steps higher gear higher than your D7. The cheapest way that I can see here is like this ;

Presume that it is an 11T at the rear, that means 52/11 = 4.7 turns. Take this as a bench level. Let's say now, we change the front chain ring to 58 teeths. This is 58/14 = 4.14 turns. That is still lower than the bench mark! In this case, for your D7, you need to change the whole crank/chainring as they are one piece! This option is expensive and still doesn't reach your objective.

OK, another solution. I saw a freewheel cog (the type that 7 speeders use ) the other day, in Joo Ngan Son, an 8 speed one that starts from 11T to 30T.  For this you just change the freewheel hub ( presuming it is still there, else you need to order ) and also another 8 speed shifter. The existing RD should be able to handle another step up. Here , your high gear goes up 3 notches and lower gear another notch.

Alternatively, change the wheelset for about 400 bucks. Get a better wheelset with sealed bearings and use the common cassette with the free wheel on the hub. For this, I am sure you will go for the max 10 speed or at least 9 speed, I mean mean why stick to 8 speed , right? nod.gif  Here you need to change the RD and the shifter in addition to the wheelset.

If you are already riding the way you describe, I would rather go for the third option, though expensive, it's the ultimate need. Sealed bearing hubs makes a lot of difference in ride performance, so it is worthwhile. First option you have to spend quite a lot too as a cheap crank will set you 150 bucks but the 58 teeth or 60 teeth chainring will be expensive. So, not worthwhile! If you don't want to spend on wheelset, then option 2 suits you.

I saw an 8 speed freewheel sold in BBS but it still starts from 13T and this does not fit your criteria. Usually riders have problems on the lower gears but yours is on the higher gears.  laugh.gif
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/300708/sunr...el-free-pos-w-m
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post Oct 23 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Oct 23 2015, 02:01 PM)
That's because the smallest (Smaller means more revolutions to one crank from the front, ie. 52/14 = 3.7 turns of the rear wheels.)  The 7 speed starts from 14 cogs to 28 cogs maximum. The normal smallest cogs for an 8,9 and 10 speed are 11 cogs. So that's 3 steps higher gear higher than your D7. The cheapest way that I can see here is like this ;

Presume that it is an 11T at the rear, that means 52/11 = 4.7 turns. Take this as a bench level. Let's say now, we change the front chain ring to 58 teeths. This is 58/14 = 4.14 turns. That is still lower than the bench mark! In this case, for your D7, you need to change the whole crank/chainring as they are one piece! This option is expensive and still doesn't reach your objective.

OK, another solution. I saw a freewheel cog (the type that 7 speeders use ) the other day, in Joo Ngan Son, an 8 speed one that starts from 11T to 30T.  For this you just change the freewheel hub ( presuming it is still there, else you need to order ) and also another 8 speed shifter. The existing RD should be able to handle another step up. Here , your high gear goes up 3 notches and lower gear another notch.

Alternatively, change the wheelset for about 400 bucks. Get a better wheelset with sealed bearings and use the common cassette with the free wheel on the hub. For this, I am sure you will go for the max 10 speed or at least 9 speed, I mean mean why stick to 8 speed , right? nod.gif  Here you need to change the RD and the shifter in addition to the wheelset.

If you are already riding the way you describe, I would rather go for the third option, though expensive, it's the ultimate need. Sealed bearing hubs makes a lot of difference in ride performance, so it is worthwhile. First option you have to spend quite a lot too as a cheap crank will set you 150 bucks but the 58 teeth or 60 teeth chainring will be expensive. So, not worthwhile! If you don't want to spend on wheelset, then option 2 suits you.

I saw an 8 speed freewheel sold in BBS but it still starts from 13T and this does not fit your criteria. Usually riders have problems on the lower gears but yours is on the higher gears.  laugh.gif
http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/300708/sunr...el-free-pos-w-m
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Thanks Etigge for your clear explanations. Looks like my options are limited by the size of my wallet. I will talk to Joo Ngan bike shop on your second option. Would Kimbell Jaya be able to do the freewheel cog upgrade too?
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post Oct 23 2015, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Oct 23 2015, 03:23 PM)
there are plenty of freewheel 7 speed, 11-28/30 even megarange 34t over in taobao.

u can change the crankset too to get more teeth,...  biggrin.gif
if u know what to look for...
won't cost u alot....
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Another good suggestion. Thanks H2D. If I were to change to this megarange 34T, what other components do I need to change? Can I reuse my existing RD, chain ring, shifters?

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