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post Apr 21 2015, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ Apr 21 2015, 04:20 PM)
thumbup.gif couldnt agree more with sifu etigge notworthy.gif .oh ya,where can find deore levers and vbrek?price are not that cheap i saw.avid single digit a bit cheaper..
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Kimbell Jaya have stock of it. I think it's about RM280 for the whole set, V-brake calipers and levers. Shimano XT also Kimbell have in stock. More expensive off course.

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post Apr 25 2015, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Apr 25 2015, 11:06 AM)
Problem solved. Found spares at My Bike Shop, BU. It is a stock Verge P18 55/46T crankset. I will be keeping my old one as spare in case this one wears out, so difficult to find 130 BCD crank arm online, even harder to find 55T...
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All roadbike cranks are 130mm BCD (except compact cranks which is 110mm BCD). Just walk into any decent bike shops, I am sure they have stock. So many Shimano Sora, Tiagra, 105 , Ultegra and Dura Ace. Most are 130mm BCD. As for chainrings, i still have a few remnants from my fodie days, 55T, 53T , 44T, 39T and even one 30T. If anyone is interested? icon_rolleyes.gif 55T is a bit susah to kayuh lorr and also 46T tak cukup low gear on hilly ride, unless you want to pedal downhill also. I would rather use 52/39T combo so the lower spectrum is increase over the higher gear side. Even my Dahon Dash (on a Schwalbe Durano 1.1 ) uses 53/39T combo and even that I only use the 53T front and 13T rear combination on a flat road.

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post May 3 2015, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(jssl @ May 3 2015, 03:54 AM)
Guys, may I know usually where u guys do gathering?
Been ride my my bike alone at Taman for quite some time, but getting bored lol
Any FB group for this folding gang? smile.gif
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You can try this site.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/603651659666626/

Then PM Mr. Sin Tai Lim for admission. Very active group with Wednesday night rides (very regular) and also once in a while long trips, outstation.
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post May 3 2015, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(SiaoMonkey @ May 3 2015, 11:25 AM)
Sifu etigge,

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Try search Happy Cycling in FB search. Maybe better luck that way. smile.gif
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post May 8 2015, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(axrul @ May 7 2015, 05:50 PM)
Hi, currently I upgrading my tern d16 with 105 groupset. I having difficulty to find wheelset to support 11 speed cassette. Any suggestion which wheelset should I buy.
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Do you actually need a closer ratio gear set ( as what 11 speed is, because both 10 speed and 11 speed has the same range min to max cogs) on a folding bike. hmm.gif Or maybe because the newer range of 105s are 11 speed. My suggestion is to just hunt for the older 10 speed 105s. Or get the Tiagras. In Shimano usual cases, when they upgrade or improve on Dura Ace, the older Dura Ace technology will become Ultegra and the Ultegra then will become 105s. This means the present 105s are actually the older Ultegras. Which also means the 2015 Tiagras are actually the older 105s.

The wheelset is not the point actually. The hubs are! For 11 speed, you need an 11 speed compatible hub. Easiest way I see is to get 11 speed compatible hub but sadly, folding bike spoke numbers are different from road bikes which are usually 32. So maybe you can hunt for 20/28 hole hubs which are 11 speed compatible. ( Try Taobao ) If you can find a pair, then you can just change the rear hubs or together with the front as well, your wish. But bear in mind, Tern/Dahon front hubs are only 73mm wide as opposed to the usual 100mm for others. The increase in 2.8mm width for the hubs can actually be absorbed by the frame with no problems.

All this means, you will change to drop bars or bull horn bars, right? I haven't seen an 11 speed straight bar shifters locally yet. The SHIMANO SL-RS700 is available for 11 speed and the price is going to be shocking too! biggrin.gif I think you can order 11 speed wheelsets from Taobao, you need to troll through their site and if you do order make sure you get the spacers too, in case you need to go back to 10 speed.

Or why don't you visit Kimbell Jaya and speak to Jimmy. He has quite a number of 451 and 406 wheelsets. Maybe, he can modify them with 11 speed compatible free hubs. I can't guarantee but it's worth a try.

My conclusion , I will stick to 10 speed as the improvement in performance between 11 speed and 10 speed is negligible in the case of folding bikes. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 9 2015, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(xynique @ May 9 2015, 01:08 PM)
Anyone knows where can I get dahon my SL10 in penang ?
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I think Chin Aik is the agent there in Penang. As for stocks, I can't say. I seen 6 years old Dahon IOS still available there, hahahaa. So, means sales in Penang for Dahon is a bit slow. Why don't you call Kimbell Jaya and ask Jimmy. I think sending one through courier ( he does a lot to Sabah and Sarawak ) straight from KL to Penang is still cheaper than what they sell in Penang. Better still, browse through some shops in KL when you make a visit, afterall , it's a folding bike. Easily stored in a car trunk. We Malaysians can drive 4 to 5 hours for seafood, I don't think driving the same distance for a folding bike is any different. tongue.gif
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post May 10 2015, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(wkyrichie @ May 10 2015, 12:27 PM)
Where to buy cheapest folding bicycle in KL?
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Usually it depends on how well negotiate with the 'taukehs'. Also they also notices how well you know the prices and your knowledge about it too. Go in and ask un-necessary question, that begs yourself to get sold higher priced. tongue.gif Just a tip, visit a few. Places like My Bike Shop, USJ Cycles, Attaque, GW Cycles are foldies center, mainly that is. Go check their prices and then finally, go visit Kimbell Jaya and check out the price. I say finally, because that's where you can really get good prices. Don't take my word for it, go visit a few places. icon_rolleyes.gif

PS/ It seems Garion is overtaking Oscar Imagine as the cheapest acceptable folding bikes. But it's prudent to invest in Dahons for long term. Seems Dahon Vigor is always out of stock. Kimbell is allocated 6 but all sold before arrival. Dahon Dash coming this month. Also Dahon Curl is coming this time.
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post May 11 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(wkyrichie @ May 11 2015, 01:50 AM)
Where is kimbell jaya?
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Google map the coordinates, 3°02'57.1"N 101°46'16.1"E
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kimbell-Jaya...ef=ts&ref=br_tf
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post May 13 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(o.d @ May 13 2015, 11:45 AM)
Hey guys, so I found some foldies that is in similar price range. if anybody has any review or recommendation, can let me know please. so hard to choose.  icon_question.gif

My preference and cycle purposes:

To cycle from house to lrt about 3km++, in tar road. there will be some hills but not so steep, if anybody familiar, nearby lrt gombak when you want to climb to the taman area in nearby uphill. Then bring inside LRT and will have to push/carry in KL sentral and change to Komuter. Then after komuter cycle to OUM which is another hill. Some other days will use for going supermarket nearby my house, and also cycle in PJ Old town to go to my friend's house to teach swimming (from LRT taman jaya).

Bike need to be able to install carrier because I may carry stuff for swimming and also running errands. If can put a small canvas bakul in front also better although may not be necessary.

My budget below rm1000 but if it's worth to up more for necessary spec, I may cap it at rm 1300, but lower is better  sad.gif  pretty tight budget and poor especially after GST lol.

so here are what I found:

JAVA TT: Got guy offer me RM860
JAVA PRO: RM860

but I read somewhere that JAVA cannot install carrier, is this true?

Raleigh UGO: a guy offer me RM850 (to add carrier RM80)

Dr Hon Vybe C7A: RM 999

DR HON VYBE C7S: RM 979

DAHON SUV D6 2015: rm840

I also found TERN LINK C7 cost RM1250 - is it worth to up the bidget for this bike?

All price is exclusive of GST though  sweat.gif  so the 900++ may actually be more than my initial budget. ha ha what to do  cry.gif

Thanks everyboy for your input!
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For your need, I think MIT would really suit you. It is not as expensive as a Brompton which is the best commuting ( as you are using it for!) , the MIT folds just as small and it's even lighter. It sells for over 2K though. It also has original 8 speed which is also good for your hills.

Other than that, since you are using it for train commuting as well, a 16 incher would be preferable as a 20 inch don't actually folds small either. Manageable , and the smallest 20 inch folds are Dahons. Maybe the Boardwalk, Speed or Vybe. As for Vybe the C7a is lighter than the C7s. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 13 2015, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ May 13 2015, 03:58 PM)
ok the new dash D18 is gona look like this ya, since khass bike oredi put this pic. so can stop dreaming of the old frame style....  biggrin.gif
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summore the price increased to RM2998 b4 less.....  biggrin.gif

http://www.khassbicycles.com/index.php/pro...-dahon-dash-d18
those got the old bike can start to sell more than 2k liao if ur dash still is in good condition....  biggrin.gif
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Just took back my Dash back from Kimbell Jaya. Tak laku rclxub.gif Many wants to wait for the new 2015 model. They went back to V-brakes, that's good, at least better than the mechanical disc brakes. Also the front end , went back to 73mm hubs. My guess is, they will sell about RM2750 average. Maybe RM2600 if cabel is good.

Funny, Mine, with full Shimano 105 groupset, Ultegra level 10 speed shifters, 451 riims with Duranos also tak laku at 3K. I am going to repaint it Orange and convert it to Dash X20. Will post a photo here later. rclxms.gif
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post May 13 2015, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ May 13 2015, 04:22 PM)
i think ppl will be interested if ur dash is with old stock components, and sell at 1.7K liddat, plus condition have to be cun cun.... the frame...  biggrin.gif
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The frame is cun. The last owner who traded it with my Dahon Vigor , only rode twice. Her wife felled and gave up. Hahahaa. Me on my side, modding pandai, but ridng it, I prefer my Speed , more gears. So, all in all, very few rides only with the Dash. Anyway, cannot sell, so I simpan sajalah! The mountain bike project also completed and fully paid already. rclxms.gif I was thinking of disposing it and pay for the mountain bike. So, I took many stuffs from Jimmy and ask him to contra with the 2 velos but till now, all paid up already.
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post May 14 2015, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(azamunekurone @ May 14 2015, 11:23 AM)
the white dash are very rare nowdays.some of it may like it in original kilang condition and preserve the value.since ur dash already moded,few consideration for other cyclist also.btw,that is MHO icon_idea.gif

i got my friend also scouting for the white dash,but with original parts and the price for 2nd value he estimated around below 2k sweat.gif

anyway
already convert my tern using 451 wheel.try to fit the original vbrake,but failed.so last choice is the caliper brake

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anyway, i lost my "N fold" technology (tern so called folding method) when using the caliper,but i do learn to fold like verge x18 brows.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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When you change from 406 to 451 wheelsets, you need to use C-brakes (road bike brakes) and that also provided the frame has a place to install the C-brakes. If you still want to use back your V-brakes, you need adapters to shift the brake studs higher up. I saw Lite Pro ones in Kimbell Jaya , the other day. Alternatively, you can get adapters to lengthen the V-brake calipers arm, which I also saw Lite Pro ones being sold in Kimbell Jaya. I prefer the former ones as extending the brake caliper arms is not really safe. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 15 2015, 12:04 PM

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An opportunity to change to Ultegra brifters ( shifter and brake ) with Zipp relica bullhorn bars and Fizik bartape. Anyone here wants to change to such riding position. Willing to change to straight bars as my wife wants to ride easier nowadays. This velo also came back from Kimbell Jaya, unsold so I am keeping both the Dash and the Performer velo. I am looking for Shimano SL-M760, SL-M770 or SL-M780 shifters only as the groupset is all Ultegra so it is just fitting that the shifters match the groupset. Willing to change one for one, although my setup cost more. The bullhorn is RM260 + Ultegra brifters RM800+ Fizik bartape RM100. It is still worthy even if you buy a new shifter to exchange.

PS/ forgot to mention, the bar is carbon fibre and I did this because it is wasteful to tear up the ba rtape and sell separately.

If no response here, going to sell in BBS, just thinking to give a chance to forummers here.

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post May 15 2015, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(mingyan @ May 15 2015, 12:49 PM)
I like your bicycle 'workshop' etigge.

I think the e-bike would encourage more ladies to go on longer road trips on bicycles. My wife refuse to ride far because no energy for the return trip. lol
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The problem with us humans is, we tend to get lazy when we have the convenience. I think the e-bike would defeat the purpose of the bikes nowadays. In today's world, the bicycle is a recreational tool more than a commuting one. Yes, there are some who commutes but percentage is far too low because of our municipality policy. Not enough encouragement like guarded cycle parks, lanes etc.etc. Even rail attendants can be little Napoleons. In one incident, they did not allow us to board the Kommuter unless we pay them but one of the riders is a lawyer and threaten to bring this up.

If you have this installed on your bike, high chances , your wife won't ride. She will just cruise until the battery runs flat. Let me give an example ;

When I had the Dahon Eco C7, although it took a longer time, I managed to ride up Genting Peras, both me and wife. Then in Putrajaya, we can ride without changing a single gear, fix at 52T front and 15T rear. All the way. Then as we progress............or regress, depending on your opinion, we modded to 27 gears. It was a breeze riding. So much so, after a few months, we hardly want to pedal hard again. BECAUSE there's no need to. blush.gif There are enough options to ride up a slope as easy as riding on the flat road. So, no more hard pedalling up a slope. I don't think I can ride up Genting Peras now with 7 speed. Hahahaaaa!

As for training for longer trips, it has to be gradual. Just like hiking, always think of the return trip. Once you force and your butt pains the whole ride, you can forget about asking them to ride again. I had one who joined me to Taman Negara and was never seen riding in groups again! rclxub.gif Start with Putrajaya lakeside, some minor slopes and lots of flat. Then go faster and maybe 2 laps. That's 20 km already. Once that is acheived, try riding up PICC on every ride. That trains you for uphill. Then try Genting Peras and also Fraser's Hill.

Most people cringed when we say Fraser's Hill but it is actually an easy ride but you need at least 16 speed for that. Don't try from KKB. Start from Sg.Chilling. Park your car in Sg. Chilling. Then start riding up slow to warm up. It slowly winds upwards for 20 kilometers. All the way up but gradient is actually quite easy for multiple gears. It's an endurance ride. Don't matter if you can't reach, ride to your max. Cannot, it is all the way DOWNHILL to Sg.Chilling. Maybe till the waterfall. Then try again, and again and again until GAP. You will reach it in 2 to 3 attempts. Then if you are game, the last 8 kilometers up to the clock tower. I usually don't do that because , I don't see the fun in over exerting, heart exploding ride. I done that twice and so the iconic clock tower pix should suffice already.

Finally, after many rides, start from KKB. When it starts from KKB, it becomes tougher. The secret is, don't rush. Ride very slowly to Sg.Chilling. After this training, riding anywhere is easy because of the confidence gained from riding in all terrains.Even the trans Titiwangsa from KKB to Raub becomes fun. we will do that again when the 'musang king' and 'D24' are in season there. icon_rolleyes.gif

Happy riding.
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post May 15 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(wen332 @ May 15 2015, 02:15 PM)
Hi All, im newbie here.

Would like to get advice from all whether i should do any tuning for my new tern where i got it from lucky draw. is fresh out from the box and i have zero knowledge on that.

appreciate it. :-)
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If it is a Tern, it should be enough to ride for starters. Just ride and get used to it, then maybe join a group and see how. Until you are really interested after gaining confidence in riding and want to tackle harder routes, especially hilly ones, then you can start modding. icon_rolleyes.gif

PS/ or maybe you were referring to QC and last minute checks. Don't know whether the purchaser has requested or not but usually bike shops do the last minute brake checks, rim tuning etc before selling.

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post May 18 2015, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(y4ng @ May 17 2015, 10:47 PM)
hmm hello sifus!

is there a lot of diff with 7speed and 8speed?

thinking of buying this 2nd hand

http://bicyclebuysell.com/item/252318/daho...limited-edition

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Buying a used bike for RM1,100 when the new one used to cost RM1080 is a bit far fetched isn't it? blink.gif

OK, first of all 7 speed means the rear cogs start with 14 tooth and biggest is 28 tooth. 8 speed means it starts with 11 tooth and largest is 30 tooth or sometimes 32 tooth. In terms of high gear, that last 2 gears makes a lot of difference and makes climbing slopes very much easier and in terms of low gears, on flats and downhills , it will be faster. But sometimes the bike manufacturers will use a smaller crank to make riding even easier and most newbies think, " Wah! so light and easy to pedal" , in actual it is because of the smaller chain ring.

Another point is, the hubs ! 7 speed means using the older fashion freewheel hubs where the freewheel is on the cassette (the rear cluster of gears) where else the 8 gear mean using the freehub that is on the hubs itself. This makes modding to 9 or 10 speed possible. In the case of 7 speed, you need to change the whole hub to move up to 9 or 10 speed. There are 8 speed free wheel cogs but hard to source. icon_rolleyes.gif

Hope this helps!
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post May 19 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(o.d @ May 19 2015, 01:23 PM)
Question: 16 inch, let say, I ride LRT from Gombak to Taman Jaya, then suddenly in Bangsar, LRT rosak. How possible is it to cycle the 16 inch to Taman Jaya (want to go PJ old town area)? I have general fitness, not so great like avid cyclist  sweat.gif just no tiring? he he he  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Don't look low on the 16 inch. We had a ride an lady rode her 16 inch from Kampar to Sitiawan and back. That's 200 kilometers! The Brompton is also a 16 incher, just that it is classified as a 349mm as opposed to the smaller usual 305 mm. The MIT is a 16 incher. In Penang they like Jab, a 14 inch foldie bike as shown. Their usual playground is from Teluk Bahang to Balik Pulau on weekends.

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QUOTE(foogie @ May 20 2015, 08:33 AM)
Im wondering if im the only one having this problem. My tern node's seatpost doesnt allow me to adjust the saddle tilt. The saddle clip/clamp thingy is rigid, so i cant adjust the angle like i can on other bikes. So fitting in a brooks saddle will give u a 2.5 degree front tilt. Any solution?
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All seat post can adjust tilt, even those old fashion ones like those in C7s. you have to release quite a bit to loosen the circular latch which has notches. You have to loosen the holding bolt past this notches.
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Here's the Dahon Dash after repainting. Now become a more expensive bike liao! tongue.gif The lockjaw is no joke, really cool mechanism. Only dismantling , I can understand the mechanism. The new look, looks better than the former white, I must say so myself. Quite please with the results. rclxms.gif

Frame - Dahon Dash with Fusion Slipstream fork ( whatever that is rclxub.gif )
Wheelset - Konetix hubs with 451 Weinmann SEC 16 rims , Schwalbe Duranos
Shimano 105 - RD, 105 FD, 105 10 speed chain, Tiagra 12/30T cassette
Shimano 105 C-brakes , Avid levers, Jagwire cable housings
Shimano SL-R780 straight bar road shifters
Biologic seatpost pump
Selle Royal Dardo saddle, Selle Royal bra grips
Dahon original adjustable stem

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post May 20 2015, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ May 20 2015, 10:36 PM)
whoa wong sifu u use spray can to do the paint job? biggrin.gif
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Yeah lorr! Staying in terrace house, cannot use compressor . Using the 2 part paint is better. But this also one coat primer, , 2 coats colour and 2 coats clear.

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