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post Dec 8 2014, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(Icahn @ Dec 8 2014, 12:01 AM)
Benda macam ni sepatutnya dah boleh anticipate lama dah. Bukannya kali pertama lawan veitnam ni...
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Baru je lawan vietnam friendly pastu siap hantar oks jd pengintip.. Alahai x wat keje ke
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post Dec 8 2014, 02:06 PM

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Samseng IJF ni Halim Napi diorang tak kenal kot. Haha
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post Dec 8 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Dec 8 2014, 03:38 PM)
komen abt game, expected..so aku x kecewa sgt. haha.tiket 40 ringgit (dpt diskaun sbb ada org last minit xdpt gi) aku anggap entertainment environment stadium la. worth every penny.

dr first minit kena outrun. huhu sblm game aku dah predict position dm la position plg crucial utk pilih. first minit lee cong vinh  kot dah try..and a few more shots from distance. lg satu player no 7. aku tgk balik kt tv, commentator kata mamat ni umur 21 tahun je.hmmmmm

player malaysia? sibuk nak bg player vietnam berkicap kt muka. hadoiii

mengecewakan, bench langsung tak bleh jd competitive partner for the team. nak taknak..terpaksa la letak jgk mahalli sbg RB utk match kt my dinh nanti.
kunalan? alahai..kalau xnk bwk kecik, farhan roslan, brendan sekalipun... nazrin nawi is certainly winger with better technical. tapi..ble tgk option bench...
erm apa option winger kita ada? terpaksa la korang hadap lg kunalan nampak gayanya..hahaha.

copot byk terpaksa cover tempat hafiz kamal, fadhli shas pulak jd disorganized gle sbb defend sepatut main 4 orang byk kali mcm main 3 or even 2 orang hahaha.

mahali, muslim worst performance. muslim bola halfline pon dia sibuk nak put pressure pdhal tu tugas DM..so bila player viet loop bola ckit je dah melopong bawah. tak muslim, mahalli..sama je lah 2-2.

safee, apa cerita? salah siapa pulak now? takkan kamu tahan bola mcm tahan bas salah fans jugak...sudah2 la tu..tugas kamu atas padang kejar shoot..make some shots. bkn terlepas bola asyik angkat tangan tunjuk good kt member.

well im not a coach. tp matyo pny contribution jauh lg byk dr safee thru out the tournament. rajin kejar bola..turun tepi atas bawah..safee tunggu as role apa? target man? alahai target man hold bola pon jauh dari kaki..susah mcmni.

sokong tetap sokong..

tp ulang lagi..menang piala sekali pon tolonga la cek balik dollah ni..cepat2 la carik proper coach. kesian dollah terpaksa hadap ni semua..hahahahaha
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Spot on.. Agree 100%..


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post Dec 8 2014, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Dec 8 2014, 02:12 PM)
baru tau ke DS punya taktik silang menyilang??? ehehhe... dari zaman ellie aboy tau.. budak IJF pun sekolah rendah lagi masa tu. tongue.gif
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Sbb tu dia berjaya di pahang, dia ada material utk main mcm tu.


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post Dec 8 2014, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(mdnosz @ Dec 8 2014, 08:58 PM)
hehe .. walau ape pon terjadi.. semua ni bukan salah dollah salleh

aku takkan salahkan dollah salleh

sila bawa bertenang dan imbas kembali, mcm mana dollah salleh dilantik ...

dollah salleh telah dikambing hitamkan atas kebodohan FAM takde telur nak bayar gaji pakcik troussier ..

alahai ..disokong pula oleh KJ  doh.gif

petikan dari kata2 KJ berbunyi

"SEPANG: Youth and Sports Minister Khairy Jamaluddin believes that the Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) should reconsider their plans to hire a world-class coach for the national team.

He said that FAM had the right to appoint anyone for the job but felt that the standard of local football did not justify their plans to hire a world-class coach.

“If we are competing at the world level, then maybe we can have a world-class coach for the national team,” he said, stressing that this was his personal opinion.

“We are limited by the talent we have in the national squad and I think it would be better if the money spent to hire a world-class coach be spent on development instead.”

The FAM recently announced that they are trying to get Frenchman Philippe Troussier to replace Datuk K. Rajagopal, whose contract was not renewed when it ended in December.

Besides Troussier, former Roma manager Zdenek Zeman is also reported to be under FAM’s radar.

It was reported that Troussier would only consider an offer of US$1.52mil (RM5mil) a year or US$126,805 (RM407,000) a month.

It is also learnt that Troussier’s appointment comes as a package deal which would include his back room coaching staff.

Khairy also announced that the ministry is partly funding Harimau Muda A’s stint in the Queensland League in Australia beginning March. The team, coached by Datuk Ong Kim Swee, will compete in the league until October. The cost for the stint is estimated at RM4mil."

spent on development, with local coaches? cammon la .. sbb tu taktik "clear-kejar" je yg kita pakai selamanya

aku terfikir jap, ..whats wrong if beliau nak bawak dia punya own back room coaching staff? terlalu mahal?
ok ..patut la .. so tak perlu marah la kalau kita kalah dgn team cikai ..dan itu je level kita

pakcik aku pernah pesan, kalau nak pandai, belajar dgn org pandai ,..
melainkan jika nak jadi bodoh abadi selamanya ..

aku respek sama korang  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  ..respek sbb masih lg letak harapan pd dollah salleh, walaupon dah tau taktik dia mmg takat tu jer ..kita still simpan harapan "wak dol, tolong guna 343, wak dol tolong main defend, wak dol cuba try 41311 pula, wak dol control game plis, ...haha
dollah tetap dollah, falsafah bolasepak dia takat tu je  nod.gif

berbeza dgn rajagopal dimana rajagopal dah diberi tempoh yg lama membimbing set player dia sendiri ..

aku rasa, lebih baik OKS dari dollah salleh ..at least, OKS tau mcm mana nak main defend ..

wak dol? hentam saja lah ke winger ..silang menyilang ..jika tiada winger, hentam saja lah

mmg diakui, fakta, biar mourinho mahupon fergie yg jd coach, blom tentu kita boleh power ..
ok, jika mereka seketul sketul yg jd coach, secara solo , mmg la takleh ..

but bygkan jika mourinho/fergie bawak seluruh staff dia skali, mksud aku "seluruh", ..secara package ...kita pernah try kaedah ni?
belum? or pernah? sape yg follow up bende ni bleh la betulkan statement aku, ..aku mungkin salah

yes, kita pernah hire world-class coach, but hanya coach!
why not this time, kita hire ' a set  of world-class coach team'? duh  doh.gif

but ..ckp ape pon tak guna, presiden FAM masih lagi sama anak beranak kerabat ..
so no point talking, just enjoy the show  thumbup.gif

FAM ..bangang abadi selamanya
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Setuju. Tgk ka pakej dollah salleh bawak, ridhuan abdullah alahai perlis nak menang pun susah, jadi pundit pun asyik buffer. Ada players faham ke x arahan. Dan pembantu yg lain adalah buangan daripada skuad johor.

Dollah tu bangang, elok2 bawak pdrm naik, bawak pahang juara, sanggup jd scapegoat buat fam. Bagi la lapan tahun kontrak pun, pemain tu jugak yg dibawa taktik sama la jugak
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post Dec 8 2014, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2014, 05:50 PM)
Razman sama case ngan jkt rasenye... Derang just have other plans...

Truth be told , DS dont have free hand to choose players due to factors beyond his control...

Most of the players yg ade dalam team ni adelah dari jdt dan pahang yg menang either menang the league or the fa cup. Both are malaysia cup finalist..

So kalau nak salahkan ds .. Lebih pada pilih player bergantung sangat pada prestasi semasa tanpa kenal sgt player u..
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Benda sama bro benda sama.. Kelantan juara treble pun, apek sekor je yg main.

Sbb jkt dgn razman ada plan lain? Ah giler, jadi tolak panggilan negara sbb ada plan lain. Kalau betul, nape x bbawak naik isu ni? Dh nama duk senarai menunggu jadah apa nk tunggu sbb belum tentu boleh gi. Kalau letaj awal2
dlm skuad utama, takkan jkt dgn razman nk bantah?

Dh giler kemaruk konon leh naikkan prestasi players duk seat recaro. Kalau berjaya boleh dianggap hebat la. Srdangkan torres bersilih ganti coach pun xleh nk jumpa form, apatah lagi local.

Senang cite dollah pilih pemain ikut sentimen kenangan silam, shukur masa duk sgor, afif muslim masa duk pdrm. Hafiz kamal dgan pahang. Org x marah kalau kalah bermaruah atau bawak budak2 muda utk pendedahan. Budak2 yang dahaga nk perform jauh lebih baik dari star yang konon masih perform..

Phuuoiii


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post Dec 8 2014, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2014, 09:17 PM)
Aku setuju dgn kj.

Tak timbul isu scapegoat. Pemilihan DS adelah atas dasar merit.
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Merit bila masa dh suntuk. Xde option dh. 90 foreign apply, tak jadi troussier, amik local. Giler. Jadi maknanya 89 org lagi tu semua x layak. X sepower local. Senang cite, tu je la fam bleh buat, bodo selamanya
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post Dec 8 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(menj @ Dec 8 2014, 09:27 PM)
Troussier's demand was too high. Tahukah anda bahawa dia mintak klausa bahawa kalau dia tak setuju dengan keadaan masa dia coaching selepas tiga bulan, dia boleh batalkan kontrak begitu sahaja and FAM has to PAY THE REMAINING BALANCE OF WHAT WAS LEFT IN THE CONTRACT to him?

Itu syarat gila tu. Memang patut FAM tolak.
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So jadi mana yg lain? Ramai giler fam ckp apply sbb shortlisted 3 org, so dua org lagi tu mcmana? Terus buang semua lepas failed dgn troussier? Alahai senangnya..
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post Dec 8 2014, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2014, 10:28 PM)
Lain...

Sebelum ni : kenal > prestasi semasa.

Sekarang : kenal < prestasi semasa.

Ade beza.

He can argue actually shukur, muslim dan hafiz kamal actually have a good season also.

Kita tgk memang tak lojik. Tapi its possible some player memang tak look forward untuk main ngan negara.

DS dah plan nak letak JKT first eleven dah lepas lawan cambodia hari tu. JKT yg tolak.

Razman pon mungkin sama....nak cakap apa lagi kalaus semangat macam tu.
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Kalau mcm tu byk giler negatif, xguna nk amik tahu skuad kebangsaan. Bubar je. Fans pun xyah fikir nk beratur beli tiket, bergaduh bagai dlm ni. Dah tentu2 takat tu je bola kita boleh gi.

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post Dec 8 2014, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(waruna @ Dec 8 2014, 11:14 PM)
Sebab td kau ckp JKT yang tolak. So tolak means reject, dan pemahaman aku kau tau JKT yang reject. Tu pasal aku tanya kena ban ke tak.

Piya pun seminggu dua jgk la berita pasal kenapa RG x panggil dia kemudian baru start panggil under OKS sekejap. Dan x silap aku piya pernah kena ban kot sbb tolak call ups, until now maybe FAM dah restructure balik rules diorg pasal ni, kalau betul maybe nasib JKT ngan razman x seperti Piya la kot.

Anyway, kekalahan semalam x memeritkan sgt la. Mmg performance HM mcm tu je pun. Dan mmg mcm ni la kita sbg fans kutuk2 team setiap kali game.

Kadang2 pelik gak, kenapa la kita dok sakit ati padahal dah mmg gitu je performance HM dulu kini dan selamanya.. hahaha..

Mungkin perasaan 'masih sayang' tu ada lagi.
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Sayang ada la sbb tu bila kalah sakit hati. Kalau xrasa pape, dh tak sayng kot. Haha

Kalau x syg, x dtg 80k smlm.


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post Dec 8 2014, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2014, 11:21 PM)
tolak permintaan DS in good faiths....sebab die memang nak kawen+honeymoon... tak plan langsung akan dipanggil ke AFF tahun ni.... Razman pon mungkin dah beli pakej korea tu dah lama...ramai die pergi ngan family semua..... kinda reject bersebab la... kalau coach strict boleh jer die paksa datang jugak... tapi DS pikir tak perlu buat camtu sekarang ni..
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X jugak bro. Nama dh dlm senarai menunggu, lagipun dia siap ada lg masa anugerah liga malaysia tu. Dh dlm senarai menunggu, mmg x guna la berharap tmbh dollah pun ckp dh puashati dgn skuad yg ada.

Mmg razman tkde dlm plan dia. Kalau betul dlm plan, lepas aidil out tu, ptt dh call up.
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post Dec 9 2014, 02:02 AM

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Focal point ttp sama FAM! Lepas bapak, anak plak amik alih. Apa vision presiden skrg? X nampak lg. Even nk hire coach pun satu masalah.

Benda basic mcm jadual, transfer ruling, refferee pun kelam kabut, apatah lgi nk fikir benda 2 susah.

Tiga kes berprofil tinggi kes terowong, tukar waktu semi final dan kes bakar di swak pun masih haru biru tanpa ada jawapan konkrit. Aku tunggu penuh minat hukuman apa utk Gary sbb sign dgn tiga team. Rasa mcm tau je keputusan dpt kat sapa..
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post Dec 9 2014, 02:36 AM

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Bojan Hodak memang kalau tgk ada impressive resume tp tu sejak menang treble dgn kelantan dan bawak jdt juara liga super. Tp harus di ingat, lepas treble, kelantan hanya hilang matyo ghaddar terus dia hilang arah. Dtg dickson barulah kelantan dpt rentak smula.

Di JDT, penuh bintang tp liga super saja. Ok mmg dia amik skuad di suku liga start tp jdt start perform bila diaz dtg. Naifnya bojan bila ktan vs pahang final piala malaysia 2013 bila plan A xjadi dan pemain utama x perform. Begitu jugak masa final thn ni, pahang main 10 tp still xleh makan. Sebb? Aidil dan nazrin antara key players xde.

Bukan menidakkan keupayaan dia tp dengan skuad terbaik kelantan ada 2012 plus jdt thn ni, rasanya coach lain pun mampu bawak kejayaan. Azraii boleh bawak double treble sbb skuad betul2 mantap. Tp dimana azraii skrg?

Tp mungkin sbb dia dh biasa dgn bola kita maybe boleh dipertimbangkan tp dgn pool players yg ada skrg, maybe sama jugak hasil nnt. Last2 players seat recaro jugak yg main
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Kalau xnak jurulatih europe sekalipun, boleh tiru vietnam amik coach korea. Mmg jelas nampak lain. At least asia jugak. Maybe asia tahu apa yg asia nak.
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Dec 9 2014, 09:01 AM)
amik la Maurinho sekalipun ngan set coach yg ada.. kalau player tu dlm diri sendiri x de vision utk pegi jauh.. tahap tu je la..

anak2 afrika tu main bola bagus pasal ade vision utk perbaiki hidup dorang.. anak2 melayu cukup la duk kat Tanah air sendiri.
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Haha betul bro.. Spot on!
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QUOTE(syazwan @ Dec 9 2014, 09:23 PM)
3 perubahan ketara bakal dilakukn Dollah Salleh..babitkn 1 pertahanan.1 midfield dan 1 penyerang...Sempat berbual dgn Dollah sebentar tadi - hafizal hamad's tweet

aku pny tekaan
1. Shukor
2. Amri
3. Manaf

Out muslim, kuna, ermmm matyo? Ehehe. Sbb nampak gaya safee selalu selamat dlm lineup
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Matyo at least lari la jugak.. Safee tunggu bola sedap je,..

Buat la mcmana pun dollah, atas demo blako
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post Dec 10 2014, 05:40 PM

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Kekuatan piya bila ada DM yg baik dan dia boleh bergerak bebas di tgh tanpa perlu fikirkan utk turun bertahan plus winger yg tidak statik, yg bersedia bila piya dpt bola trs buat forward run. Sbb tu indra farhan menyinar main dgn kelantan sbb diorang dh tau bola mcmana piya akan passing.

Dgn skuad yg ada skrg ni, tanpa DM yg bagus, tugas sukar esok utk piya tp kalau winger tu amri, indra, ada harapan utk tgk dia bg byk killer pass.


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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 10 2014, 07:20 PM)
Level liga super bolehla piya slow main camtu...

Level international, everyone need to pull their weight....

.............

Kalau nak menang esok....kita kene main macam game 0-0 balik...

Start main defensive dulu....serap dan counter..

Vietnam takkan hold back.....its their nature to attack all the time.... Kalau kita bukak dari awal, alamat first half aje dah kene sembelih..

Seorang deep lying holding midfielder is a must.....flat midfield leave too much space for fleet footed teams to exploit...
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Dh sapa pemain kita level international? X nampak pun. Jadi main bukan utk international x perlu pull the weight?

Nk main defensive? Mcm la defend kita tu kuat. Deep lying holding midfield? Sapa option yg ada? Dollah tinggal kat malysia.

Nk start game dgn minda 0-0? Haha makin lemaulah players. Xyah serang, dh game masih seri. Patutnya mentaliti tu utk vietnam bukan kita.
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 10 2014, 08:11 PM)
Bukan mentally strong... More like mentally 'different'...

Top scorer yg reti belajar bahasa asing dan boleh adapt makanan luar belum tentu lagi tak kecut telur main bola depan 50k orang.
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Sbb tu org suh bawak youngster dlm team. Awal2 lgi belajar nk adapt main dpn 50k. Ni belum pape dh reject kata xde pengalaman.


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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 10 2014, 08:44 PM)
Pasal sape lagi sesuai main international style football antara safiq dan piya, aku akan cakap safiq, ko akan defend to the death cakap piya....so lets just agree to disagree..
Sebab defend kita tak bagus la kita kene main defensive untuk cover lubang tu...... Kalau defend kita bagus, main attacking pon takper...

Aku rasa gary boleh jadi holding midfield tu.

Start game macam 0-0....tak bermakna sampai habis main camtu.

Dalam 90 minute ade byk fasa..... Jumpy fleet footed teams biase akan bagi relentless attack for the first 20 minutes......masa ni kita layan je ....janji tak bolos...

Around 20-30 minit, pace derang akan drop sikit..masa tu kita tukar taktik ke menyerang...

Kalau kita open dari awal, we will play to their game.
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Aku x kata piya lebih layak pun. Dan honestly aku rasa piya pun bukan perform sgt musim lepas berbanding dua tiga tahun lepas yg mana dia deserved utk call up dan lebih deserved dari safiq time tu. Aku xde cakap pun safiq x layak skrg. Yg aku ckp piya kalau nk main, kena ada dm yg bgs dan winger yg pandai baca. Skrg bukan isu safiq atau piya..



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