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post Nov 17 2014, 03:26 PM

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TS can consider Rennai come with rain shower n built in pump.
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post Nov 17 2014, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Nov 17 2014, 04:42 PM)
wat about panasonic ?
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Pana still dun have rain shower for bigger head.

I had mine 8yrs ago still preform quite well, noisy for AC pump, that's I recommended on Rinnai DC pump & rain shower, just slightly expansive but quite enjoyable for take bath.

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post Nov 17 2014, 04:58 PM

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If got pressure enough then install centralized quite enjoying like in hotel room.

Just share mine newly installed for my Sg flat.
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For only used 25L storage tank.
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Also joint to kitchen sink and master toilet basin for mixer tap.
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post Nov 17 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Nov 17 2014, 04:56 PM)
Rinnai ... is this brand convincing ? DC pump for sure , if u dont want noisy sound and expensive bill...LoL
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Rinnai around 900 I'm not wrong, cause my sister in law just recent installed.

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Nov 17 2014, 04:42 PM)
wat about panasonic ?
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Maybe you can try sharp slightly cheaper
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post Nov 17 2014, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Nov 17 2014, 05:03 PM)
RM900 for instant water heater ? its too expensive already.....i would expect max RM700+ only ..someone told me he saw panasonic rainshower in pj shop....erm  shocking.gif  whistling.gif
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Wanna enjoy rain shower, have to invest something wow.
If the normal shower head, quite cheap at round Rm400 you can have a Pana better one already
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Nov 17 2014, 05:10 PM)
Thanks Lee for the detailed reply!

Regarding the centralized heater, i dont think thats an option for now due to budget constraints and that im currently living in a two bathroom condo with only two occupants. Might consider in the future though. Will the centralized system come with a dedicated water pump?

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Was a bit sceptical on the ability of the heater to cope with a different shower head and theres no way for me to 'tryand error' in this case. I guess better not take the risk sad.gif

Is there a quick way for me to detect the current water pressure by DIY?
Thanks for the reply kimsim. Took a look at rinnai website, is this the one u meant?

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Tried looking for the spec details of the shower head but couldnt find any on the website. Any suggestions on where to get the unit?seldom see rinnai heaters so far in kl

Looks like ill have to settle for the default rain showers from heaters for now. Ill go for the biggest one i guess.. tongue.gif
Rinnai looks good
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Go SengQ you can find out what is the price tag.
Very impressive look
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post Nov 17 2014, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Nov 17 2014, 05:19 PM)
Went to senq a few days back and all they had were the alpha rain shower series which were the weird bended small rain shower. Didnt really like it. I think ill try to take a look at another outlet.

I was initially planning to get a setup like yours the 'budget' way but i guess you get what you pay for applies well here..  tongue.gif

Thought of getting any instant heaters with rain shower and refitting the head with something like this for an additional rm400.is it advisable?So heater plus shower combo might cost me around 1000-1200. With that budget i guess that might be the best choice i have. For the centralized system i might consider it 4-5 years down the road when i renovate my bathroom.

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I knew Alpha got some complain, after you push n stop water, once you turn on again, the water will be suddenly too hot like burning your body, after while become cold and keep warm to become hotter.

Pana will be slightly hot only.

But when used centralized totally change my life's brows.gif

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post Nov 18 2014, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 18 2014, 08:02 AM)
For storage heater, the pressure is from the main pipe. And probably not enough also.

For such a big shower, it require 3/4 pipe size. Instead of normal 1\2.
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Not really lah, come with such built in pump can easily take the water pressure, not as strong enough but just right.

Also depend which area, if tap water already not strong enough then better used the smaller head to be save some money.

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post Nov 18 2014, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 18 2014, 08:25 AM)
You mean the "storage heater" come with such built in pump can easily take the water pressure, not as strong enough but just right.

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Not lah, for instant one.

Storage tank is depend on water pressure or change smaller piping.
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post Nov 18 2014, 09:26 AM

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Lol

storage heater with rain shower after taken bath of the feeling you can't tell... Very enjoyable of the rain.. If can then taken more longer thumbup.gif

Vs normal instant heater really different world...

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Nov 18 2014, 06:52 PM)
thanks for the input guys

i guess having a 10-12" rain shower is out of the question for now due to budget constraints as well as risk from issues related to water pressure. Maybe i will reconsider when i intend to renovate my bathroom.

Currently im stuck between the two choices below which is the same price

Not sure which one has the bigger shower head and if theres any difference feature wise. i know that the i70p has an on off button for the pump. unsure about the rinnai one though

Rinnai
REI-A360DP-R-WS
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Joven
i70P
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No budget then get joven, if got extra cash then get Rinnai, both are the good brand also specialist on heater series.

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post Nov 27 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 27 2014, 10:17 AM)
Brought this Rinnai heater after saw your post picture. Really difficult to find.

Will install it this 2day and see how good is it.
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My sister in law house installed 2 also, one got rain shower & the other don't have, not sure both is built-in pump, also diff color silver & black.

I am never test yet, cause still pending on my hand of help her paint the wall & ceiling laugh.gif
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post Nov 28 2014, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 28 2014, 01:48 PM)
Connect the wire to the connector. Makesure the wire secure tight with the screw connector. Cost this heater run at high watt when max. Otherwise the connector will heat up and kaboom.
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I put an additional silicon to seal the wire intake hole. Cause the heater from the shower head is a bit near. This is to prevent the water from sipping in and kaboom the heater.
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Done for the wiring. Now the plumbing side. I have place the elbow to the inlet heater valve. So I can measure the vertical pipe lenght that need to be cut.
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Use sand paper to clean every fitting and pipe that need to be glue. This will clean up the oil and dirt. So the glue can melt the pvc pipe securely. Wipe with clean cloth.
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Tape the screw fitting with white seal tape.
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The vertical pipe is temporary insert in. Now use the elbow to mark the lenght of the pipe to be cut. Glue all together. In this step, you need to act fast. The glue will cure fast. Plan which fitting to go in first and how to fit in together. Than apply the glue.
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The plumbing done. Wait for 1/2hr or longer for the glue to harden. It actually need 24hr to be harden. But since the water pressure not that high, 1/2hr should be alright.
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Open back the stop cock. Check for any water leakage. Than turn the heater valve to open. Let the water flow out from the shower head. Check any leakage in the heater side joint. This is important to makesure no water leak out internal. Any water leak, disamssembly it and take the heater to claim. Close the valve and put back the heater cover.
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Switch ON the heater switch. Than reset the RCD. If the RCD trip, switch OFF and check the wiring.If everything OK, the heater light will ON.
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Continue........
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Used PVC bigger size via smaller size of stainless steel or PVC pipe got water pressure different?

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 28 2014, 02:12 PM)
Nope. This is the end piping to the heater. so no different. Need bigger pipe size from the beginning tank side.

Standard plumbing rule for house is 1/2". While the main is 3/4".
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Noted..

Unless you buy nut reducing

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 28 2014, 02:22 PM)
What nut reducing?

Thumb of rule, 1/2" is standard plumbing for inside house. Otherwise you have problem with all your tap, faucet, shower head...etc. Use bigger size pipe if you plan properly and understand what you do.
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Hmm wait go back home take photo to show u
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 28 2014, 02:22 PM)
What nut reducing?

Thumb of rule, 1/2" is standard plumbing for inside house. Otherwise you have problem with all your tap, faucet, shower head...etc. Use bigger size pipe if you plan properly and understand what you do.
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He he just found my neighbor sg he also used it S/S look more nicer.

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 28 2014, 03:42 PM)
I find it messy.
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You are right cause you see too many pipes akraady.
But for our bro ozak can simple used the shorter one, look more nicer or rather than used grey color PVC pipe
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Nov 28 2014, 03:45 PM)
This one champion

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Wow kids most happy to take bath like that also used water like no tomorrow
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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 28 2014, 03:41 PM)
Frankly speaking, it is not really nice. Those flexible hose tangling around at below is a mess. Not your neighbour, even my 1.

I prefer the mixer type with everything running inside the wall.
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Ai yah I just mention the s/s pipe as the main connected from the wall to heater only.

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