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post Nov 17 2014, 02:32 PM, updated 12y ago

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Dear Sifus, im having a mini dilemma here. What I intend to do is to have a medium sized (10"-12") rain shower connected to my soon to purchase water heater                                            
                                            
My current method is to purchase a water heater with pump and rain shower, and purchase a new shower head seperately to fit to replace the default shower head (as the one provided with the heater is small)                                            
Approximate cost would be                                            
Water heater with rain shower- RM700-RM800
10-12" Shower head - RM300-RM400                                            

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The heater model im planning to get (joven i70p)
                                       
Question 1                                            
My question is, do I have any alternative way to get a rain shower setup with my heater since from what I checked                                            
the rain shower column itself can cost between RM500-RM1000                                            
                                            
Question 2                                            
Will my water heater with pump be able to produce enough presure to push the water up to the rain shower?                                            
Current built in shower head has decent water pressure. (any idea how I can quickly check the pressure readings?)                                            
                                            
Question (slightly off topic)
Why is the water pressure in my 2nd bathroom stronger than the one in the master bedroom?

Question 4
Are the shower head fittings standard?

Thanks in advance!

This post has been edited by aztechx: Nov 17 2014, 02:34 PM
TSaztechx
post Nov 17 2014, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(leeky77 @ Nov 17 2014, 03:10 PM)
Ans 1
You can op to install a centralized water heater. Cost of heater will be around 2 electric water heater that you plan to buy. But you need to have budget to install additional hot water piping.

Ans 2
Usually the water heater pump will only generate pressure enough to support its own rain shower. I don't think it will have enough pressure if you change the original rain shower into 10" or 12". Even if the pressure is enough, the electric heater maybe cannot heat up to the temperature setting as the flow rate will be too fast for the heater.

Ans 3
Pressure different might due to piping connection. Maybe your second bathroom is nearer to your main water inlet as compared to master bedroom. Hence causing pressure drop.

Ans 4
Shower head fitting is standard.

ps: If you are interested to know of any other alternative to have a centralized hot water system for your house, kindly PM me  biggrin.gif

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Thanks Lee for the detailed reply!

Regarding the centralized heater, i dont think thats an option for now due to budget constraints and that im currently living in a two bathroom condo with only two occupants. Might consider in the future though. Will the centralized system come with a dedicated water pump?

Ans 2
Was a bit sceptical on the ability of the heater to cope with a different shower head and theres no way for me to 'tryand error' in this case. I guess better not take the risk sad.gif

Is there a quick way for me to detect the current water pressure by DIY?

QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 17 2014, 03:26 PM)
TS can consider Rennai come with rain shower n built in pump.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 17 2014, 04:46 PM)
Pana still dun have rain shower for bigger head.

I had mine 8yrs ago still preform quite well, noisy for AC pump, that's I recommended on Rinnai DC pump & rain shower, just slightly expansive but quite enjoyable for take bath.
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Thanks for the reply kimsim. Took a look at rinnai website, is this the one u meant?

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Tried looking for the spec details of the shower head but couldnt find any on the website. Any suggestions on where to get the unit?seldom see rinnai heaters so far in kl

Looks like ill have to settle for the default rain showers from heaters for now. Ill go for the biggest one i guess.. tongue.gif
Rinnai looks good

Oh and thanks for sharing ur bathroom setup! Looks great with the centralized water system u have there. I could only dream of having that for now.hehe.

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post Nov 17 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 17 2014, 05:12 PM)
Go SengQ you can find out what is the price tag.
Very impressive look
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Went to senq a few days back and all they had were the alpha rain shower series which were the weird bended small rain shower. Didnt really like it. I think ill try to take a look at another outlet.

I was initially planning to get a setup like yours the 'budget' way but i guess you get what you pay for applies well here.. tongue.gif

Thought of getting any instant heaters with rain shower and refitting the head with something like this for an additional rm400.is it advisable?So heater plus shower combo might cost me around 1000-1200. With that budget i guess that might be the best choice i have. For the centralized system i might consider it 4-5 years down the road when i renovate my bathroom.

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post Nov 18 2014, 06:52 PM

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thanks for the input guys

i guess having a 10-12" rain shower is out of the question for now due to budget constraints as well as risk from issues related to water pressure. Maybe i will reconsider when i intend to renovate my bathroom.

Currently im stuck between the two choices below which is the same price

Not sure which one has the bigger shower head and if theres any difference feature wise. i know that the i70p has an on off button for the pump. unsure about the rinnai one though

Rinnai
REI-A360DP-R-WS
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post Nov 28 2014, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 27 2014, 10:17 AM)
Brought this Rinnai heater after saw your post picture. Really difficult to find.

Will install it this 2day and see how good is it.
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Hi there ozak,

I bought my unit also yesterday and wikl be installing today.
You mind sharing how much you bought it for?
Got it at rm750 without installation from a bath and kitchen shop in shah alam.
Agree with you,Really tired looking around for this particular model
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post Nov 29 2014, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 28 2014, 01:42 PM)
Install it yesterday. Take about 2hr. Running very silent compare to the old 1.

Noise level about 55db at max pump running. The shower head flow is not strong as those big type. So if you looking for a strong flow, you will be dissapointed.

The cost:
1) Heater - RM720
2) Plumbing parts - RM5
3) Labour - Free

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Wow u got it cheap!!where did u buy it from?i have yet to find a decent shop to regularly get my stuffs from.

By the way, i noticed that even at the highest setting the water is not even close to scalding hot, i mean i dont intend to scald myself, but it is only warm at most even at the highest setting, even worse when using the rain shower mode. Is it considered normal? Or is my water pressure too strong?

Seems like the heater runs fine even with the pump turned off as my water pressure is considered quite high even on normal days. Should i regret buying a pump unit?hehe

I too am uncomfortable with the wiring setup done by my installer, worse is he charged me rm100 for installation.. sad.gif
Will consider using the silicone gel like u did with yours
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post Nov 29 2014, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 29 2014, 11:18 AM)
Get it from Puchong. The shop look like 1 to die or not die condition. Don't look for big shop.

How hot the water depend on few condition.
1) water temperature inlet
2) water flow speed.

I only turn the knob to half to get the temperature I need consider now the water temperature is a bit cold than normal.(raining season)  Pump speed is max.

You need to measure the water temperature only can tell. I will check later what is the best temperature.
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I remembered the heater in my parents home were the type that hurts you if you set it too high, but then again the water pressure there was quite bad due to it being an old apartment.

Tried playing around with the settings today, guess i cant get both high water pressure and high temperature at the same time on a budget.

Seems like the best result is with halfway open valve and with pump turned off. Rain shower mode with pump on, the water is just slightly warm at best. A bit disappointed. cry.gif

 

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