ok. I've found the hatchling ally snapper at

88 aquirium pju branch

they only have one left. $160. It's located at the cashier counter downstairs

if want better be quick. Condition looks good

lot's of scouting work done today. 4 so far

2nd)
another place with 4 hatchling ally selling at $160 is:
irene aquirium
8-10, jalan 21/22 sea park
03-78748143

they have quite a lot other species too, mainly hatchling like star, leopard, razorback, and few unknown turtle species to me. It's scattered around, so walk around in the shop to spot them

one thing i don't like for his tortoise, he is using cat urine thing as tortoise bedding. It's dusty and sticky

3rd)
only for display, they have beautiful tortoise. 2xLeopard, 1xstar, 3xradiata and 1xsulcata

his sulcata is much bigger than mine, super active. Very nice.

He said he often have tortoise, ask me to check back often

yee fatt aquirium
7, jalan 20/16, paramount garden
03-78757462

4th)
pet family not much change

i thought u r joking about the mouse trap but u reallly did it
for me, when i sun bath them, i'll be reading newspaper nearby

ya, didn't expect to be that price... they look so cute... nice
i told my wife about the ally... she turned now gimme silent treatment... she thought i bought the monster... hehe... later have to manja her back

88 aquirium


for irene and yee fat, i've drew the map b4... here it... don't mind the bad drawing both r nearby

irene

From SS2 RHB (on your right), go all the way straight
You will see Mobil on your right, go all the way straight, you will see trafic light
Turn left at the trafic light, go all the way straight.
Before end of the road (3 shop row before shell), turn right at the shop lot. You can find the Pet shop there

yee fat

From the Sea Park Shell (the one I drew from first picture), turn right at the trafic light
Go all the way straigh,t you will see KFC on your right and a trafic light
Turn left at the trafic light, go all the straight, You will reach another trafic light
Turn right, go a little straight, turn right again.
You will see Caltex on your right, a bit straight, POS office on your left
And in front, you will see the Paramount Pet Shop


btw uzairi, why not put the TTTv1 link at the first thread? so that those who are new and very free can go through it

how do u mean 'i put it in sleep'? how did u do it???
btw, i don't think u should kill the dog leh... later spca come and catch u... susah pulak...

oh... got common and alligator one ah... how to see the difference???

EDIT:
i ask myself, answer myself
http://www.chelydra.org/common_alligator_s...ing_turtle.html

but can u see the difference when it is small?

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Oct 3 2006, 11:34 PM

i m not sure whether is common or ally leh... it's still so small...
and black black like tat...

UPM get sulcata la... then we can gang up the giants
so when ur sulcata is big, it can bully back the dog

my art memang tak boleh pakai

come to think of it, i think looks like common snapping

UPM, why not immortalize em..
Your Pet Tribute, Immortalize them in the WWW

regarding the skin, maybe try consult a vet

regarding not eating, what food are u feeding him? Is your habitat too cold? If the tempreture is too cold they might loose appetite. Get a basking light to warm them up

ps: noticed that crazymouse has been busy editing posts, putting censorship. Better else here becomes a triler action post

the snapping turtle looks like those raksasa in ultraman series

Just came across this

My 6 years old Sulcata

His one super big leh... gheng

are you looking for something which is already huge?
or you want something small then grow huge

2 huge tortoise easily available is sulcata and leopard
both 3rd and 4th largest tortoise in the world

e.g. of how big sulcata can grow
My 6 years old Sulcata
*somebody's sulcata

there's a few shops with leopard and sulcata
sulcata = 88 subang + cheras
leopard = 88 pju + irene

my drawing sux...

so here's the google earth location mark for irene & yee fatt

attached

yes, it is more fun to see them from small to big

the $88 one is most likely star... it won't grow tat huge

baby sulcata and leopard price range is around RM450 to RM550 each

that guy said 6 years can grow that big... i m also curious what he is feeding em. not suppose to be that huge

yee fatt is selling adult radiata at RM5k

i've not seen a burmese star in any shops yet. If anyone came across, let us know ya

burmese star, how expensive is expensive?

thanks for the new location. i'll drop to have a look. seems like getting more and more pet shops with tortoise / turtle

that album is not my sulcata. it's the title of somebody else's sulcata. mine is still very small. Long way to go before will reach that size. u can see mine in my avatar

current market price in kl pet shop, price tag $480 to $550

don't worry, u will work sooner or later... Then ma got money to buy lo. Only hope they don't put a ban for selling tortoise here. I think is a sooner or later issue

guys, check out today's nst page 14 prime news

malaysians 'fund' illegal exotic wildlife trade

the writter even spy a few shops including pets family

they mention tortoise is quite common...

Hope they don't put a ban

when they mean malaysians, here in lowyat.net, we got quite a number of investors putting their 'funds' in

if 'someone' here wants to have legal turtle/tortoise farm, not easy dream... wonder how to get the license approved

sigh... If like SG our tortoise should go into hiding. I wonder is it illegal to keep them?

This post has been edited by titansulcata: Oct 6 2006, 10:52 AM

malaysians should stop 'funding' these illegal activity... Hehe... Joking

congrats dude

so where u bought it? Which pet shop

here's the news
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Fri...cle/local1_html

Malaysians 'fund' illegal exotic wildlife trade
06 Oct 2006
Manveet Kaur and Su Aziz

KUALA LUMPUR: Tortoises from India and snakes and lizards from Africa and Latin America are finding their way into more Malaysian homes.

And as the demand for exotic pets grows, so too the list of prized wildlife.

However, many people do not realise that a number of these animals are on the endangered list.

While some are imported, most of these are captured from the wild and smuggled into the country.

The Star tortoise (Geochelone elegans), for example, is taken from the wild in India, where it is protected, and brought in by smugglers.



This tortoise is among the many exotic pets that are being sold in the Klang Valley.

We visited one pet shop in Mutiara Damansara and asked the owner about Star tortoises.

Since he thought we were potential customers, he admitted that the tortoises were smuggled into Malaysia. He also did not deny that most of his tortoises and terrapins were obtained through illegal means.

He said he had no problem with the authorities when it came to selling species such as the Star tortoise, Radiated tortoise and the Spider tortoise, all of which are prohibited from being taken out of their country of origin.

"It's okay for people to rear the tortoises as pets here, but if they want to send it to their friends outside the country, I wouldn't recommend it," he added.

He said young people liked tortoises as pets because they were cute. The Star tortoise can fetch up to RM120 for a six-cm juvenile, while its highly sought-after cousin the Radiated tortoise can cost as much as RM1,800.

Snakes and lizards from Africa, South America and other parts of Asia are also available. The prices for these range from RM1,200 to RM5,000.

There are also lizards such as desert geckos, miniature monitors and skinks.

Their presence shows that the trade in such animals continues to flourish although the shop owner said it was getting harder to get fresh stocks due to frequent crackdowns against smugglers.

Following a tip-off, we also checked out a pet shop at Taman Megah in Petaling Jaya where we found a large number of exotic reptiles and mammals.

This particular outlet also has the largest selection of snakes and lizards and is a popular haunt for pet lovers. We asked the sales assistant for Star tortoises and he replied that they didn't have any.

"We only have the Radiated and Spider tortoises left. If you want one, the big ones cost RM1,800 and I can give you a special discount if you are interested."

He added that many of the customers who wanted tortoises as pets were from Singapore.

"Such animals are prohibited from being imported in Singapore. So, they get them here and smuggle them across."

About two weeks ago, Indian Customs officers arrested a Malaysian man attempting to smuggle 1,460 Indian Star tortoises out of Chennai.

It was said to be the biggest illegal consignment of the endangered tortoises they had ever seen.

"Due to uncontrolled capture and trade, many of these species are becoming endangered," says Chris R. Shepherd, Traffic Southeast Asia Senior Programme Officer.

"Unfortunately, there are loopholes in the legislation that hinder the authorities from preventing this wrongful exotic pets trade."

In 2004, Traffic Southeast Asia released the report Demand Driven: The Trade of Indian Star Tortoises, Geochelone elegans in Peninsular Malaysia, which highlighted Malaysia as a major hub in the international illegal trade of this species.

The study's survey of 31 pet stores in Kuala Lumpur found more than three-quarters of them sold the tortoises. The reptiles are often dehydrated, bound with tape and stuffed into stockings to limit movement when smuggled into the country. Many do not survive the journey.

Shepherd says Customs officers are the ones who can actually make a huge difference in preventing wildlife contraband from being smuggled in as they are the ones at the entry and exit points.

The Department of Wildlife and National Parks (Perhilitan), the government agency managing the country's wildlife, has a licensing system under the Wildlife Protection Act 1972 to regulate the import, export and trade in local wild species.

"We are aware that violations of the law exist," agrees Misliah Mohamad Basir, the law and enforcement director at Perhilitan.

"So we conduct random spot checks at pet shops. If the owners cannot produce the trader's reference number to verify the origin of their pets, we will confiscate the animals and send them to our Rescue Centre at Malacca Zoo," she says.

"And if the quantity of species present exceeds the number written in the logbook, they will be fined."

Of the 32 registered pet shops in Kuala Lumpur, 20 were raided last year and 15 of them were in breach of the Wildlife Protection Act 1972.

The most common species confiscated were the reticulated python, leopard cat, hill myna, iguana, greater green leafbird, sulfur-crested cockatoo, red whiskered bulbul, oriental white eyes, blue-crowned hanging parrot and yellow-crowned bulbul.

The fine for selling protected species without a licence is RM5,000 and/or two years in jail.

Misliah says it was difficult to name all the protected species that were illegally sold in the country because one could never foresee what endangered animals would be brought in.

"Trends change all the time - one month it will be the Star tortoise, six months later it can be komodo dragons."

To report a suspected wildlife law violation, contact:

- Law and Enforcement Division, Department of Wildlife and National Parks, Km10 Jalan Cheras, 56100 Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 03-90752872
Email: pakp@wildlife.gov.my
Website: http://www.wildlife.gov.my

- Traffic South-East Asia
Unit 9-3A, 3rd Floor, Jalan SS23/11, Taman SEA, 47400 Petaling Jaya
Tel: 03-78803940/Fax: 03-78820171
Email: tsea@po.jaring.my
Website: http://www.traffic.org