damn true.....ppl like me malas malas mia....keep diamondback also no problem...
LOL...tortoises leceh...pee n poo alot....
turtle....hahaha u dont see pee...u see poo...but all masuk filter
senang.........

bio filtration, chemical filtration through power filter, canister filter, etc. that sucks all the excrement in and pumps clean water out..  err ring a bell?

but leslie is so lazy bum bum he only use mechanical filtration the size of his pinkie.

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anything can be obtained here with enough funds .. you have anything specific in mind?

hey... does star tortoise grow as fast as terrapins?

No, they wont. Tortoise have slower growth rate compared to turtles/terrapins.

I am thinking to add Sulcata, Red Foot, Yellow Foot and some other land tortoise into my collection. . But this will take time ... kena jaga pocket a bit . . will slowly add species by species . .  I never realized that tortoise keepinh can caused addiction . . .

So many species, I never head before Can post some pic, and intro intro?

asking this to all the pros here...
between turtles n tortoise...which is harder to keep?
thinking of getting a star but not really sure

I think the answer also depends on which species of tortoise concern !! If campare Star Tortoise and say RES the RES will win But if we use bigger species of tortoise like Sulcata to compare the tortoise will win for sure !!!
Sulcata is one of the fastest growing tortoise species in the world

If we use Spiny Hill turtle I think all species of Tortoise of the same size as hatchlings will win it for sure  LOL !!!  One of the slowest growing turtle I know of , be them hatchlings or Juv !!!

mudz, star tortoise not only eating sawi, u can give carrot, cucumber, salad leaves etc vegie to them. u can sometimes give them a small slide of fruits as treat. there is also tortoise pellet selling outside. but i suggest you mix 2 things or 3 things to them each time. (mostly i will put tortoise pellets and a type of vegie for mine. and i have 2 type of tortoise pellet. maybe some of us here using few types)  don't give everyday same food to them. everyday u eat same thing also u scare. haha....

But its better to feed them with sawi as their staple food. Alternate them with lady finger and french/long beans. If they wouldnt take the sawi, starve them for 2-3 days and give the sawi. That should do it.
Not recommended, too much liquid and almost no nutrients at all.

try high fiber diets (grape leaves, hibiscus leaves) mix with tortoise pellet. usually they won't take (bitter taste) but mix with pellets can do. timothy grass/hay mix with pellet also do fine, in fact recommended more than supermarket greens. and of course opuntia.

p/s: had anybody tried GEX tortoise pellets? my tortoises seems crazy on them.

sorry can anyone tell me the chinese name of SAWI??? ty a lot!!

Gai Choi is called Bamboo Mustard Cabbage, Chinese Mustard Cabbage, Oriental Mustard Green
http://www.melissas.com/catalog/index.cfm?...id=177&Info=YES

I use sawi, in US it is called Yu Choy Sum
http://www.melissas.com/catalog/index.cfm?...id=202&Info=YES
This veggie got 20% calcium

Some pictures of sawi from the internet.




Taken from http://www.nandyala.org
Mustard green family


I will post the actual photo when i buy them tomorrow. Now finished already. 

I gave them the long bean, but seems hard to bite for them eventhough i cut them into very small pieces~

As for Sawi, they dont like to eat, put whole day thr, but they cant finish.

I saw pet shop feed them wit long bean, so i was thinking can let them try

Where to get hibiscus flower and leaf?