There is.... Taman Sentosa Klang

For me consider ok. Once vped,  the sales still do soft then consider bad. For me IJM, not really very marketing. So still many people do not know rimbayu compare setia eco hill or eco majestic. So once ES and TA launch no worries too, for me no harm but got help to promote BR too.

If many investor can't  afford the payment, you may had chance to "pick dead chicken"......

Yes, that's why the market is soft now, so this sales result is consider not bad. But still having some of group people still looking house to buy, but they not aware about BR this project, this is come to the point I said BR  still many people not aware. So wait TA  or ES launch, so many people know BR then sales will increase also because not all can afford ES and TA.

I believe TA and ESanc will launch on 1st Qtr of 2015.

Slow or not, I believe already got potential buyers be it investors waiting it or surrounded buyers who looking for an upgrade if they opted to skip BR.

It depends on how many units they launch altogether. TA would normally launch very few units at the same time, say approx 100 units plus or minus, but they hardly had anything sold out in a day or two.

ESanc also depending since this is high end and they class EM as affordable premium project, they can launch 500 houses in the same project but guess since this is million ringgit project, they might launch it slowly to let the market digest.

RM 600-800k good landed in good location, also depends, old houses ada lah, if gamble on to wait for house price to drop, quite unlikely in such short time esp for good landed. Heavy discounts for highrise maybe.

invest or own stay?

Erm, I dont have a conclude answer for your questions leh.

Good landed normally doesnt required huge downpayment upon entry, there were some with DIBS but not many. Investord are smart enough to understand that DIBS is also part of the price increase higher.

If apartment or condo, that was huge difference bcz almost all projects being launched were min 500 units and above, not contradict to landed project, where mostly around 100 units each phase, only EM and SEH was dared to launched the high number for DSTH.

I not sure if there is any investor buy 5 units or above at the same time for each project. If the investor is doing so, he might be tktttttt or overly aggressive ( risky one )

In this case, in SEH, I dont think so. It's not a high discount with low entry project, furthermore, many of the buyers are quite cash rich, ex. staffs being repeatedly flipped their latest project of Setia Alam 20x70 and cash out, sikit sikit also can hold for another 3 years without rental income.

Furthermore, if to aim launching price + 10% is super unlikely unless you able to get an almost auction unit, provided you have the network in shortest time to snap it up.

RM 500k with DIBS for SEH, expected VP mid next year, a 2 years project, hence the exit cost would be 2% of selling price, RPGT 30% of profit price, 2% of bank loan penalty, say RM 9k. ( 450k x 2% )

If the owner sell at RM 600k, his cost would be RM 12k ( agent fee ) + RM 30k ( 30% RPGT ), RM 6k ( expected S&P cost ) + RM 9k ( loan exit penalty ) = RM 57k

If you abld to get any landed asking price at initial dev price + 10% only, do more due diligence of the project, find out his discount and profile on why selling such low price.

Can tell you, you will waste your gas to wait. Because phase 1 is balloting, even got investor also is individual hold 1 only, not those investor got 3-5 units. So holding power no much problem, because even now is economic slow down, not crisis.
So better advise you, buy phase 3b or phase 4

Even phase 1 not start from 780k subsales, also minimum 730k. But after Q1 2015 TA and ESanc launch and basic structure / real feel out in 2015, the real products can view for phase 1 and phase 2 in 2015 year end. Pricing definitely big jump (many concept product like Dea Park City, Setia Alam, Kemuning Utama and etc) in appreciation price. Because concept project sell you in pre-concept price, but once success prove of concept, price is super jump.

For investment, it is depend on what you want. 

Highrise = rental income
Landed = longer term capital appreciation

For investment purpose, it is ok to wait.  There should be "dead chicken" but do not expect to be a lot.  Need a lot of patient to find.

If in this case, you need to consider chris gor advice, if have so called "dead chicken" let you buy in 2015, then you need study super well. Else you eat already, when 2016 or 2017 economic active back, your "dead chicken" will become "overnight dead chicken", never alive.

For this 2015, "dead chicken" you might find most properly due to supply over demand, temporary stop for high end / luxury condo.
if you found landed "dead chicken", it might not due to economic soft root cause, it due to origin that landed already "dead chicken" even economic no problem.

But for landed, not easy to get enough 'rental income' to cover your installment.  Therefore you must have enough holding power on this type of investment. 

If really market turn bad, why not consider to invest in Share market to collect your "bullet"..... just my 2 cents. 

Read a news highlight by property guru that "The best time to buy a property is when everybody scare".  I suppose this is true even for the share investment. 

Compare to property, share having more liquidity compare to property. 

Ha ha.... I'm waiting for the bad time as well 

Selected location apartment.  But must be very choosy.  Not that many nowadays .

U can tell back ur sifu " its easier said than be done " as property investment approach is a lot different compare to 3 and 6 years ago.

In the other way round, it not necessary must be rental higher than monthly installment to end up richer.

Another way can be, flip one of the invested prop and then turn the profit into investment game chips and roll on. Once u profited RM 200k in a single flip, u can make decision faster and quicker on next purchase.

100k enough for rimbayu dp, mot, stamp duti?
How about those having FEW properties?

Chimes lots of investor.... but now i suppose only people with intention to stay will buy

Yes.... I'm phase 1 late buyer.... just bought in July.  Plan for own stay. 

If for investment only, I will choose not to buy at this moment....     Like you mentioned, there may be 'dead chicken' in 2015/2016.  But for own stay, difficult to wait for suitable 'dead chicken'.

Normally those 'dead chicken' come from those 'greedy' investor who invest in too many property at one time. 

Anyway, I do believe long term sure got good return.  But not that confident that will happen within 5 years time