Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Traders Kopitiam! V6

views
     
yhtan
post Nov 4 2014, 12:05 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


New thread already, so long didn't visit Ah Boon

Got tipsy for me? tongue.gif
yhtan
post Nov 21 2014, 05:02 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


The way i look at AAX financial statement, the huge problem underlying is the Company is running out of cash because it has been continue huge loses for few quarters

Based on the figures shown, plus the rumours of delaying salary/allowance payment, it does make sense for me

I still don't understand why got people want to catch this knife, it seems they forgot the MAS case or worship Tony?

They only left with 3 options to raise cash level:
1.Right Issue
2.Private Placement
3.Sale and leaseback the plane

Forget about Bond/Sukuk, rating agency will not give them high rating and the interest rate will be much higher based on their condition.

This post has been edited by yhtan: Nov 21 2014, 05:05 PM
yhtan
post Nov 21 2014, 05:56 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2014, 05:23 PM)
Problem is...... I believe that Tony was wrongly portrayed as a hero. tongue.gif

whistling.gif
*
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...alaries-bernama

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/en/node/170894

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...ound/?style=biz

Look at his reply and it seem he is not talking about fund raising at all!


yhtan
post Nov 21 2014, 06:53 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2014, 06:07 PM)
Last time, he initially denied betting in fuel hedges.

Only when the hedges went horribly wrong, he was forced to admit to the public about those bets.

Losses incurred then? 420+ million!!!

Would I trust his statements now?  rolleyes.gif
You should look at AirAsia most recent profit notes la.

Check out AirAsia cash ( 1 billion (depleting) ) vs its total debts ( 11.8 billion) ....

The company does not have many bullets to shoot hor....

And despite all this.... http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1232784

Last para: In a separate filing, AirAsia said it had extended a US$55 million loan to AirAsia Inc, a company incorporated in the Philippines, to facilitate the ordinary course of the latter's business during the third quarter ended Sept 30, 2014.

rolleyes.gif
*
Ah Boon, Airasia business is in steady mode but AAX is in turbulence mode

Let me show u what i found in both financial statement, look at the difference in their Current Assets and Current Liabilities

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...%2019%20Nov.pdf

http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...ursa)-Final.pdf

Obviously it shown AAX is in much serious state, trade and other payables increase almost 100% but revenue did not increase in line with
Current ratio 2013 - 0.37
Current ratio 2014 - 0.20

The cash in AAX decrease by RM140mil, remember cash is like blood, without cash it cannot operate day to day basis

And i have to agreed with u, Tony had some bad remark back in the loss of hedging

P/S: i do not know the cancellation of plane order will be able to refund the Company, if yes then there is another option for him

This post has been edited by yhtan: Nov 21 2014, 06:55 PM
yhtan
post Nov 21 2014, 09:37 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2014, 08:34 PM)
Thanks for the highlight!   thumbup.gif

AirAsia business might be 'steady' but in my opinion, it's built on very shaky ground.
*
The shaky part is the fuel price which is way too volatile and other external factor, currently their 4 hours flight is well connected to each other and create a good synergy


This post has been edited by yhtan: Nov 21 2014, 09:39 PM
yhtan
post Nov 22 2014, 03:52 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 22 2014, 10:56 AM)
Ah Tan,

Took some time reading more of AAX profit report. (first time la. LOL! )

Firs page, first few lines....
I went....  rclxub.gif

Revenue this quarter 698,764 vs 601,491 same quarter a year ago.

Business is good compared to a year ago.

Then I see the staff costs.

I was very curious about since the hoo-ha over staff payment.

Staff costs this quarter: 81,445 vs 57,755 same quarter a year ago.

So clearly, staff costs increased drastically, much more than their sales revenue increase.

That already....... a bad indicator......  sweat.gif
*
If not mistaken they open a few new route and that is why there is increase in staff cost

Problem is MAS and other airline started the price war and AAX has no choice but to reduce its price to compete
QUOTE
These losses are attributable to the third consecutive quarter of significant year-on-year ASK capacity increases of over 40%,
which resulted in lower yields from a higher proportion of promotional fares used to stimulate new demand creation to fill up
the new capacity. Our experience suggests that new capacity typically takes about 12 months to break-even. Based on forward
sales to-date, we expect to start generating positive year-on-year RASK growth in the last quarter of this year.
Although the capacity expansion created short-term earnings pressure, the Company believes that the investment will bear fruit
in the long-term. The Company believes that it now has the highest market share of passengers carried from Malaysia to its core
markets in Australia, China, Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. It has also seen a significant increase in the number of connecting
passengers between North Asia and Australia, as a result of additional frequencies added to the routes in these markets.


Ah Boon, look at their trade payables
Dec 2013 : RM203mil
Sept 2014 : RM416mil

Other payables
Dec 2013 : RM143mil
Sept 2014 : RM281mil
QUOTE
Other payables and accruals include operational expenses payable to airport authorities, passenger service charges, security
deposits and customer prepayments of charter and lease.


Revolving credits (current) : RM288mil
Cash available (Note 21) : RM61mil

Trade payables and other payables doubled, cash depleting and Company has to pay RM288mil within 12 months doh.gif

I remember this is not the first time Air Asia group delaying payment to MAHB rolleyes.gif
Did MAHB management rant to the media like he done in the past? whistling.gif

Tell me how are they going to turnaround without a cash call?
Even The Stars today reported they have to raise cash to maintain operation, is just a matter of time the shareholders will be squeeze like MAS case this round

yhtan
post Dec 2 2014, 07:08 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


since u tagged me in iCap thread, so i demand ah Boon for TIPSY!!!!!!!!

AH BOON, WHERE IS MY TIPSY????
AH BOON, WHERE IS MY TIPSY????
AH BOON, WHERE IS MY TIPSY????

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
yhtan
post Dec 3 2014, 12:11 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 3 2014, 07:53 AM)
Ah Tan.... nah..... your tipsy.

How to achieve turnaround without a cash cash ie you are so damn broke?

Answer:

Easy peasy.

Just expand............

http://www.nst.com.my/node/58554
LOL!
*
No money still can expand laugh.gif

What a brilliant idea to turnaround, i think Khazanah should hire him as MAS CEO tongue.gif
yhtan
post Dec 4 2014, 01:00 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 3 2014, 10:45 AM)
I wanna bail out of Tiger Bank liao sad.gif

move to
AEON Credit
or
Axis REIT
or
CCMDBIO

suggestions? icon_question.gif
*
Watch out Aeon Credit NPL, it is slowly increasing

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 4 2014, 08:42 AM)
You don't always jelly jelly here and there LAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..................  tongue.gif

See? See?

They say better results................ next quarter

http://www.nst.com.my/node/58931
Last year same quarter they loss only 170 million......  whistling.gif

Surely.... they can better that right?

whistling.gif
see? money is not a problem. tongue.gif
*
Look at the chart, Monday reach 70 cent straight away boh lat liao, then price ding dong around 65 cent, look like dead cat bounce

I believe the chart is hinting u something, don't u think so? brows.gif
yhtan
post Dec 6 2014, 12:15 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


QUOTE(gark @ Dec 5 2014, 02:19 PM)
MOL is currently under 4 different Class Action (means represents ALL investors) lawsuits... its going to be huge long mess ... Better dont touch anything related to MOL..

VT tried to scam the Americans like Malaysians, but he under estimated the US legal powers.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

http://cgmalaysia.blogspot.com/2014/12/mol...-are-filed.html
*
US accounting standard is different than British standard

Before listing they should know better the rules and regulation in NYSE, i suspect VT trust the wrong person for the task laugh.gif

QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 6 2014, 10:27 AM)
Mah Sing.

http://www.nst.com.my/node/55168

Yes, the growth is probably damn impressive but....
the concern is ................................... YYYYYYY

cos just last year, 2013, they did one 400 million rights issue.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...ve-rights-issue

and then now they want another 630 million rights issue?
Are they too aggressive in expanding?

See their cash flows..........
Have you seen their apartment/condo projects?
Huge...massive.....

And all over......................................
*
2 years 2 rights issue?
That is something wrong already hmm.gif

U see IOIP launch rights issue too, apparently they want to buy over 37% shares in Taipei 101
This one i think is a great opportunity for them
yhtan
post Dec 18 2014, 12:14 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


Ah Boon, do u think the strong USD as a major threat to the current market?

This post has been edited by yhtan: Dec 18 2014, 12:15 PM
yhtan
post Dec 19 2014, 03:04 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
8,651 posts

Joined: Sep 2005
From: lolyat


QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 18 2014, 12:30 PM)
The threat actually is the weakening RM.

Consequences are far more damaging.....

sweat.gif
*
Not only RM weakening, Baht and Rupiah also suffered the same

Only the financial hub like Singapore and HK, big country like China is not affected sweat.gif

Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.1198sec    0.37    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 3rd December 2025 - 03:27 AM