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Nov 4 2014, 12:05 PM
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New thread already, so long didn't visit Ah Boon
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Nov 21 2014, 05:02 PM
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The way i look at AAX financial statement, the huge problem underlying is the Company is running out of cash because it has been continue huge loses for few quarters
Based on the figures shown, plus the rumours of delaying salary/allowance payment, it does make sense for me I still don't understand why got people want to catch this knife, it seems they forgot the MAS case or worship Tony? They only left with 3 options to raise cash level: 1.Right Issue 2.Private Placement 3.Sale and leaseback the plane Forget about Bond/Sukuk, rating agency will not give them high rating and the interest rate will be much higher based on their condition. This post has been edited by yhtan: Nov 21 2014, 05:05 PM |
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Nov 21 2014, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2014, 05:23 PM) http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysi...alaries-bernamahttp://www.theedgemarkets.com/en/node/170894 http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...ound/?style=biz Look at his reply and it seem he is not talking about fund raising at all! |
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Nov 21 2014, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2014, 06:07 PM) Last time, he initially denied betting in fuel hedges. Ah Boon, Airasia business is in steady mode but AAX is in turbulence modeOnly when the hedges went horribly wrong, he was forced to admit to the public about those bets. Losses incurred then? 420+ million!!! Would I trust his statements now? You should look at AirAsia most recent profit notes la. Check out AirAsia cash ( 1 billion (depleting) ) vs its total debts ( 11.8 billion) .... The company does not have many bullets to shoot hor.... And despite all this.... http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1232784 Last para: In a separate filing, AirAsia said it had extended a US$55 million loan to AirAsia Inc, a company incorporated in the Philippines, to facilitate the ordinary course of the latter's business during the third quarter ended Sept 30, 2014. Let me show u what i found in both financial statement, look at the difference in their Current Assets and Current Liabilities http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...%2019%20Nov.pdf http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...ursa)-Final.pdf Obviously it shown AAX is in much serious state, trade and other payables increase almost 100% but revenue did not increase in line with Current ratio 2013 - 0.37 Current ratio 2014 - 0.20 The cash in AAX decrease by RM140mil, remember cash is like blood, without cash it cannot operate day to day basis And i have to agreed with u, Tony had some bad remark back in the loss of hedging P/S: i do not know the cancellation of plane order will be able to refund the Company, if yes then there is another option for him This post has been edited by yhtan: Nov 21 2014, 06:55 PM |
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Nov 21 2014, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 21 2014, 08:34 PM) Thanks for the highlight! The shaky part is the fuel price which is way too volatile and other external factor, currently their 4 hours flight is well connected to each other and create a good synergyAirAsia business might be 'steady' but in my opinion, it's built on very shaky ground. This post has been edited by yhtan: Nov 21 2014, 09:39 PM |
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Nov 22 2014, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 22 2014, 10:56 AM) Ah Tan, If not mistaken they open a few new route and that is why there is increase in staff costTook some time reading more of AAX profit report. (first time la. LOL! ) Firs page, first few lines.... I went.... Revenue this quarter 698,764 vs 601,491 same quarter a year ago. Business is good compared to a year ago. Then I see the staff costs. I was very curious about since the hoo-ha over staff payment. Staff costs this quarter: 81,445 vs 57,755 same quarter a year ago. So clearly, staff costs increased drastically, much more than their sales revenue increase. That already....... a bad indicator...... Problem is MAS and other airline started the price war and AAX has no choice but to reduce its price to compete QUOTE These losses are attributable to the third consecutive quarter of significant year-on-year ASK capacity increases of over 40%, which resulted in lower yields from a higher proportion of promotional fares used to stimulate new demand creation to fill up the new capacity. Our experience suggests that new capacity typically takes about 12 months to break-even. Based on forward sales to-date, we expect to start generating positive year-on-year RASK growth in the last quarter of this year. Although the capacity expansion created short-term earnings pressure, the Company believes that the investment will bear fruit in the long-term. The Company believes that it now has the highest market share of passengers carried from Malaysia to its core markets in Australia, China, Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. It has also seen a significant increase in the number of connecting passengers between North Asia and Australia, as a result of additional frequencies added to the routes in these markets. Ah Boon, look at their trade payables Dec 2013 : RM203mil Sept 2014 : RM416mil Other payables Dec 2013 : RM143mil Sept 2014 : RM281mil QUOTE Other payables and accruals include operational expenses payable to airport authorities, passenger service charges, security deposits and customer prepayments of charter and lease. Revolving credits (current) : RM288mil Cash available (Note 21) : RM61mil Trade payables and other payables doubled, cash depleting and Company has to pay RM288mil within 12 months I remember this is not the first time Air Asia group delaying payment to MAHB Did MAHB management rant to the media like he done in the past? Tell me how are they going to turnaround without a cash call? Even The Stars today reported they have to raise cash to maintain operation, is just a matter of time the shareholders will be squeeze like MAS case this round |
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Dec 2 2014, 07:08 PM
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since u tagged me in iCap thread, so i demand ah Boon for TIPSY!!!!!!!!
AH BOON, WHERE IS MY TIPSY???? AH BOON, WHERE IS MY TIPSY???? AH BOON, WHERE IS MY TIPSY???? |
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Dec 3 2014, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 3 2014, 07:53 AM) Ah Tan.... nah..... your tipsy. No money still can expand How to achieve turnaround without a cash cash ie you are so damn broke? Answer: Easy peasy. Just expand............ http://www.nst.com.my/node/58554 LOL! What a brilliant idea to turnaround, i think Khazanah should hire him as MAS CEO |
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Dec 4 2014, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 3 2014, 10:45 AM) Watch out Aeon Credit NPL, it is slowly increasingQUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 4 2014, 08:42 AM) You don't always jelly jelly here and there LAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.................. Look at the chart, Monday reach 70 cent straight away boh lat liao, then price ding dong around 65 cent, look like dead cat bounceSee? See? They say better results................ next quarter http://www.nst.com.my/node/58931 Last year same quarter they loss only 170 million...... Surely.... they can better that right? see? money is not a problem. I believe the chart is hinting u something, don't u think so? |
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Dec 6 2014, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 5 2014, 02:19 PM) MOL is currently under 4 different Class Action (means represents ALL investors) lawsuits... its going to be huge long mess ... Better dont touch anything related to MOL.. US accounting standard is different than British standardVT tried to scam the Americans like Malaysians, but he under estimated the US legal powers. http://cgmalaysia.blogspot.com/2014/12/mol...-are-filed.html Before listing they should know better the rules and regulation in NYSE, i suspect VT trust the wrong person for the task QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 6 2014, 10:27 AM) Mah Sing. 2 years 2 rights issue?http://www.nst.com.my/node/55168 Yes, the growth is probably damn impressive but.... the concern is ................................... YYYYYYY cos just last year, 2013, they did one 400 million rights issue. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...ve-rights-issue and then now they want another 630 million rights issue? Are they too aggressive in expanding? See their cash flows.......... Have you seen their apartment/condo projects? Huge...massive..... And all over...................................... That is something wrong already U see IOIP launch rights issue too, apparently they want to buy over 37% shares in Taipei 101 This one i think is a great opportunity for them |
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Dec 18 2014, 12:14 PM
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Ah Boon, do u think the strong USD as a major threat to the current market?
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Dec 19 2014, 03:04 AM
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