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Suicidal Guy
post Nov 7 2014, 12:48 AM

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hi boon, what's your take on esceram? possible turnover company?
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post Nov 7 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 7 2014, 08:56 AM)
Probably a company which is improving might be a better description.

However, having said that.....
do remember that companies with smallish profit numbers, they tend to be unpredictable.
as you can see the unpredictability in Esceram.

Smallish profit numbers = companies with annual profits less than 10 million.

Yes, the past 3 years, have seen Esceram profits improve/grow at a good pace.
But as good as it is, the total profits is only 2.6 million.
Smallish laaaa.....

when times get bad, as in 2011 (if you compare 2010 with 2011), we see profits swing from 1.9 million to a loss of 5  million....

.... and valuations certainly not cheap....
for a company earning profits of around 2.6 million, should the company be worth (ie market cap) 48+ million? wink.gif

But then it's an ACE stock.
LOL!
They say aces go places....  rolleyes.gif

and with the company trading around 26 sen....
many other people will just whack and hantam the stock only.................. laugh.gif
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Hi boon.. Thanks for the reply..

The profit for fy14 could be 2.6m. But for fy15, it could be up to 4.xm considering that the first q the profit is already 1.1m.

I also think that the smallish profit is risky.I actually look into this stock before the last q report came out but didn't click the buy button.

Looking at the charts and movement, do you think this is a good stock to trade?



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post Nov 10 2014, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 7 2014, 04:26 PM)
Most important is that you understand the risks involved.

Current movement?
Wait and see T+ for clues direction....
Stock had a nice pump up the other day...
See how the stock digest that movement................
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Hi boon,

Mind to share what clues are you looking at? What's a good or bad movement in your opinion?
Suicidal Guy
post Nov 10 2014, 10:17 AM

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CPO price can be affected by the falling crude oil price and rising USD?
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post Nov 11 2014, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 10 2014, 10:21 AM)
For this example, we saw the stock jumped up on good volume.
Stock now consolidating at around 0.26.
If this holds, one of the suggestion/implications is that those buyers who purchased the stock recently, believes in the stock enough that they are willing to hold on to those positions despite them sitting on handsome gains.

ps: this is not 100% fool proof. Nothing is. tongue.gif
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Hi boon.. Today is t+4.. The stock went down about 10% but with low volume.. This suggests that the buyers are still holding on to their position but with profits heavily reduced.. What's the next thing you would observe?

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post Nov 25 2014, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 12 2014, 07:39 AM)
Next thing?

I dunno maybe just wait and observe....

As it is, the lack of follow thru buying isn't there......... yet.

Consider the options.....

1. Do you want to wait for the follow thru buying before you jump in?
2. Do you want to be smart and jump the gun by jumping into the stock?

Consider both options and the risks involved....
Well what if that big push was done mainly by daytraders who go in and out the very same day? wink.gif
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Hi Boon.. how is the chart looking now? there is a big volume buying last friday. To answer your question, I would wait for a follow thru buying just to be sure before jumping the gun but I can't determine what's a good follow thru buying. rclxub.gif tongue.gif

Yea you're right day traders could make up the volume.. but how do we know if it's day trader or buy and hold type?
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post Dec 16 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Dec 16 2014, 04:24 PM)
Guys, have a question. Found this statement

"If a stock earn $1 per share and you bought the share at $100, the return is only $1. But if the share is at $10, your return is $10."

Can i know what ratio is this? In other words is EPS/Share price?
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That should be earnings yield..

Your entry price affects your earnings yield.. this is the second criteria in Joel greenblatts magic formula investing..

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post Jan 5 2015, 11:17 PM

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Just wondering how's the cpo price outlook? Plan to buy bumitama after read up some good reviews on it.

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