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 Traders Kopitiam! V6

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TSBoon3
post Dec 4 2014, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Dec 3 2014, 08:08 PM)
Which is why I say you are brave lol smile.gif
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Dude being brave is not a prerequisite for the stock market.

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post Dec 4 2014, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 3 2014, 12:11 PM)
No money still can expand laugh.gif

What a brilliant idea to turnaround, i think Khazanah should hire him as MAS CEO tongue.gif
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You don't always jelly jelly here and there LAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.................. tongue.gif

See? See?

They say better results................ next quarter

http://www.nst.com.my/node/58931

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AIRASIA X Bhd, the long-haul low-cost arm of AirAsia Group, is optimistic of delivering better fourth-quarter results this year against the same period last year.


Last year same quarter they loss only 170 million...... whistling.gif

Surely.... they can better that right?

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see? money is not a problem. tongue.gif
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post Dec 4 2014, 09:33 AM

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Today's bounce seems more stable....... for now.

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post Dec 4 2014, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Dec 4 2014, 10:05 AM)
sumatec i bought .235 yesterday.. cut .23 today....

market looks boring...

i am waiting ah boon to give me some signals to get in again...

DJIA : 17,912.62 ( +33.07)
S&P : 2074.33(+7.78)
DAX : 9971.79(+37.71)
NIKKEI : 1531.51(+4.58)
HSI : 23,428.62(-222.68)
OIL : 67.33(-0.05)
GOLD : 1208.81(-0.61)
USD/MYR : 3.4435 (+0.51%)

3/12/2014 Yesterday Bursa Stats :

KLCI : 1758.82 (-27.82)
Institution : Net buy 170.9m
Retail : Net buy 30.3m
Foreign : Net sell 201.2m
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Wait for me???

Meh?????

Left one for you...... nah.....

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post Dec 4 2014, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 4 2014, 10:15 AM)
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That counter trapped me for quite a while liao...
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Are you is not the other around? tongue.gif

ie you trap the fella? laugh.gif
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post Dec 4 2014, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 4 2014, 10:23 AM)
Stupid KLCI U- turn again lmao... 3rd time in a row...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

People really no confidence liao, naik a bit, panic sell...  rolleyes.gif

This time blue chip lead the selldown wor...
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If it not stupid then where can you get chance to be smarter?

No meh?

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post Dec 5 2014, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Dec 5 2014, 01:31 PM)
Anyone catching this knife, BJcorp?  whistling.gif
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Lousy stock......tongue.gif


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post Dec 5 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Le Don @ Dec 5 2014, 02:01 PM)
The children doing better then the mother (BJauto, BJfood)

Too bad MOL global is not available in KLSE. Then I can BTFD  whistling.gif
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Like I said BJCorp is one lousy stock. tongue.gif

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post Dec 5 2014, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 5 2014, 02:16 PM)
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getting quiet............................. LOL!



Look left... left right....
look down ... look up...

look front... look behind...


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post Dec 5 2014, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 5 2014, 05:38 PM)


High foreign holding all our REIT's...
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The double whammy point.... sweat.gif

The currency falling...: sweat:

The high foreign holding....sweat.gif

What's left cooking in the pot? whistling.gif


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post Dec 6 2014, 10:27 AM

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Mah Sing.

http://www.nst.com.my/node/55168

Yes, the growth is probably damn impressive but....
the concern is ................................... YYYYYYY

cos just last year, 2013, they did one 400 million rights issue.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/busines...ve-rights-issue

and then now they want another 630 million rights issue?


Are they too aggressive in expanding?

See their cash flows..........


Have you seen their apartment/condo projects?
Huge...massive.....

And all over......................................


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post Dec 6 2014, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 6 2014, 12:15 PM)
US accounting standard is different than British standard

Before listing they should know better the rules and regulation in NYSE, i suspect VT trust the wrong person for the task laugh.gif
2 years 2 rights issue?
That is something wrong already hmm.gif

U see IOIP launch rights issue too, apparently they want to buy over 37% shares in Taipei 101
This one i think is a great opportunity for them
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Something wrong?
Aggressive expansion resulted in depleting cash or nt enogh cash.
Not enough cash = rights iasue lor.

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post Dec 6 2014, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 6 2014, 08:49 PM)
Hi guys, just want to give you some interesting read on a Japanese day trader called CIS, whose stryr featured in Bllomberg news a while back:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-25/m...ion-trades.html

Points to note:

1) Fundamentals is useless in short term intra-day trading.

2) He monitors top 300 most traded stocks...

3) He said 'buy when people are buying and sell when people are selling'...

4) Hes an obvious momentum trader...means he monitor if theres a sudden big volume of bidding or selling price coming...he follows the big money when it enters and when it goes out.

5) Let his winner rides and cut his losers fast.

6) Complicated technical analysis or fundamentals waste your time in analyzing and executing....he prefers the numbers on the market to tell the story and re3acts within seconds....

Im a noob in stock market so pls spare me from any bad bashing uncle gark or pink spider  gor...
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Exactly spot on but only if you trade it short.... real short..... ie trades done within the minutes... the hour.....

I have known people who excels in such trades and I've known many who died badly trying to emulate such traders.

You can ONLY be as good as what you can be.

That's the key..... in stock markets ................. AND IN LIFE too.

Know what you are good at and MORE IMPORTANT know what you are NOT good in.

Think of war... OR

Think of yourself caught in a real fight in life....

where you have to ask... if we cannot punch... can you kick... and if cannot do either..... don't you think you should know your weakness ... which is cannot fight?

well if you cannot fight.... what can you do?

in short....... for short tern trading...........can you?

if you cannot.... what sort of trading can you be good at?

well... if you need to trade longer.... know your fundamentals.

Don't get fooled by the norm.... or those who tries to seduce you by trading just chart....... trust me.... it won't work if you trader in a longer time frame.

You need to understand the market... you need to know the fundamentals....

when you know the fundamentals...

you will know which stock could bring you ultra richness....

and you will know which stock you need to avoid.......


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post Dec 6 2014, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Dec 6 2014, 10:46 PM)
Yes, the problem with fast momentum trading is that you can never beat the superfast algorithms.
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Actually the problem is that you never really know your true potential TILL YOU TRY.

BUT the problem with trying is................. in the stock market...... this tries are what some calls as TUITION FEES.....

and the damn problem with TUITION FEES is that it's gonna cost lots of money...... it's damn expensive.....
and when not careful the losses can literally kill one of out the game and might even put permanent damage .......................................... !!!!

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post Dec 8 2014, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ Dec 7 2014, 02:13 PM)
Got stock name only Boon3 will go dig up company articles then post together with his analysis....
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Mehhhhh !!!!


http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014...of-high-prices/

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The prices of some drugs increased 20% to 50% this year alone, with most companies adjusting their prices twice over the last 12 months, according to the Malaysian Community Pharmacy Guild.

MCPG president Wong Sie Sing said the “normal” annual increase is between 5% and 10% but with the Goods and Services Tax coming into effect next April, consumers have to brace themselves for another round of hikes of 10% to 40% across the board.

“We sympathise with consumers and are working with the Government and stakeholders to ensure affordable drug prices,” he said.

MCPG, which represents more than 2,000 community pharmacies employing some 2,500 pharmacists, is urging the Government to set up a national health financing authority to control medical costs.

“Otherwise, drug prices could rise very rapidly,” Wong said.

There is now no price control mechanism for pharmaceuticals.

Malaysian Pharmaceutical Society (MPS) president Datuk Nancy Ho said the rising prices of both imported and generic drugs could force many to stop taking their medicine.

MPS is the national association for pharmacists in Malaysia, with some 4,000 members.

Ho said: “The rise in drug prices could be due to increased costs of raw materials, equipment, labour and transportation as well as the weak currency exchange, which impacts all sectors.

“GST will worsen the situation further as almost all newer medicines with better results and less side effects will be taxed 6%.”

Malaysian Medical Association president Dr H. Krishna Kumar said the cost of all drugs had risen higher than the inflation rate, warning that even tax-exempted drugs would go up with the increase in the cost of transportation and storage which are taxed.

Academy of Medicine of Malaysia council member Datuk Dr N.K.S. Thar­masee­lan said drug prices had been increasing every six months at an average of 10% to 20% generally.

“Newer drugs to treat diabetes and hypertension have become unaffordable. Though they are the best, public hospitals do not dish out such drugs as they are pricey,” he said.

Dr Tharmaseelan, who is an MMA past president, said drugs required for long-term use should be subsidised or declared as controlled items with fixed profit margins.

Universiti Sains Malaysia (School of Pharmaceutical Sciences) Assoc Prof Mohamed Azmi Ahmad Hasalli said the prices of branded and generic drugs mainly for cardiovascular diseases, cholesterol lowering, diabetes, female hormone condition, allergies and gastrointestinal and respiratory ailments had risen between 5% and 25%.

“The lack of a price control mechanism has caused drug prices to escalate faster than in a developed nation,” he said.

He said the situation was worse now than it was in 2012 when he published a report on a study he made comparing retail drug prices in Penang and Australia.

The report in the Journal of Pharmaceutical Health Services Research said the average retail price of the 10 most prescribed drugs in Penang was between 30.3% and 148.3% higher than in Australia.


http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014...-in-the-region/

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While admitting that some drugs “may be pricier now” because of factors like higher currency exchange, PhAMA president Yew Wei Tarng said that “overall drugs in Malaysia are still cheaper than in neighbouring countries”.

PhAMA represents 44 drug companies.

According to Yew, it was unfair to say that the whole pharmaceutical industry had raised prices.

“We know of companies that have not raised prices in years,” he said
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“Based on a recent industry survey, the turnover growth up to September is only 3.15%,” he added
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** Phama represents ONLY 44 drug companies... there are more out there **
** article also talks about 2 main categories of medicine - imported and generic **


Hovid's products...

http://www.mopi.org.my/hovid-berhad.html

Hovid's quarterly numbers...

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Hovid's track record...

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At best... imo.... given such a track record ..... it's about fairly priced in the market now....


If I am interested...
I would ask around those who uses Hovid's drugs...
Are their prices increasing?

Also... would one describe Hovid's drugs as generic?

Would people accepted generic over imported?

Would you?

Nah.... done my few sen comments......now WHERE IS YOURS?

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Day night you complain me is BAD.................................... tongue.gif

How about you sharing some opinions instead?

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post Dec 8 2014, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 8 2014, 09:21 AM)
If I get u correctly, u are implying that Hovid's revenue growth has been sub-par/below industry average?

But...even CCMDBIO's sales growth also <10% wor...then, who're the average/above average ones? hmm.gif
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If I get u correctly, u are implying that Hovid's revenue growth has been sub-par/below industry average?
==> What does the track record shows?

river.sand made a comment about last fiscal year performance. Was it valid?

I do not imply anything.
Best you make your own reasoning.

Read PhaMA's statement.

It represent 44 drug companies.......

That's a lot of fish in the pond.

The articles states of HIGH medicine prices but PhaMA rebutes that statement stating it's unfair to imply that all companies have raised their prices.
Some haven't.

Therefor the question you need to ask is it wise to assume that with high medicine prices, does it mean that all pharmaceutical companies will benefit?


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post Dec 8 2014, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 8 2014, 10:14 AM)
Pharma companies' main cost is R&D hmm.gif

My take is that weak MYR should benefit companies like Hovid with high export % of total revenue
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Where did you read that Hovid has high export %?

Source please.
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post Dec 8 2014, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 8 2014, 10:16 AM)
Its called HST aka. high speed trading. There are a couple of books out there on this... you don't actually do the trades yourself, you put the algorithm into the program and it highlights the 'potentials' according to the criteria and also sometimes the computer execute the trades yourself. 100 trades a day is norm for HST, they pay very little or no brokerage and buy sell with 1 tick difference.  wink.gif
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Success stories is always inspiring to read.... but it's never easy to emulate. tongue.gif


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post Dec 8 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 8 2014, 10:25 AM)
Annual report - under segmental reporting. Slightly more than half of total revenue is derived from export.

Among CCMDBIO, Pharmaniaga and Hovid, Hovid is highest exporter in %.
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Are you sure?

This is what I see.

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post Dec 8 2014, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Dec 8 2014, 10:30 AM)
Many ways to success, the most important to pick the one most comfortable and WORKS for you.  rclxms.gif
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Yup that's key......... BUT.....

in the process of picking what works..... one has to go thru many trials and errors........

in the stock market..... trials and errors kills if one is not careful ..... tongue.gif

which is why........................... FAKE trading is a must. whistling.gif






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