i think the cgpa is not a problem. u just need to pass all the subject requirements by the uni or by the course that u want to take.

errr...
passing is not enuf
at least get a b+ as a minimum
that's how i always maintain

after industrial training~~ cgpa goes up. provided u do as told by yur supervisor...

i agreed with him.....i know pass the subjects that u take is not enuff ...but
once u get fail for either one of ur subjects.. is like a black spot....u cant graduated with first honor....thats uni's system... although u score well after resit that subject....u cant get the first honor anymore....is kinda cruel system in local uni.... therefore...before u maintain to score well .....the first step is to pass all the subjects..correct me if im wrong

well, if u resit ur paper, the cgpa will increase , if the paper got 4 credit hour for example. u might want to score a high cgpa high earlier and quite difficult to do it in the end coz just a slight increase in the end of semester in cgpa like 'pecahan'- divide a high no. yielding in a low value. thats why final year student resit their paper to increase the cgpa.

Good day everyone!
Such a good threat here that has attracted so many tarcians to express their opinion regarding CGPA...
Ohhh... repeat stil having the chance to obtain A!!!!!!!!!! Until today i jz realized that!
(then i should try to fail n resit, instead of ready hard jz kidding^^)

Irresistible should b my senior kua~

be aware that most universities do not allow students to resit their subjects UNLESS they fail them. it means, once u know u're didnt score the subject, u gotta deal with the lecturer or the head of school to fail u. if u wait until u registered for next semester's subjects, the grades will already finalized and the only way to change it is to bring it up to the next senate meeting of the university.

if u know u're not scoring a subject, either drop the subject or fail urself. getting a minimum pass grade might be the end of u in the future. remember, failing is not as bad as getting a minimum pass... hehe

whoa TARC resit paper can obtain A also meh?and the resit paper is easier to get an A compared to the 1st exam and result will be replaced just like that?that's something and kinda unfair to others..example u get B or C for exam and ur fren fail,he resits and gets A..what would u react?

my college resit paper max will get pass C and most of the candidates will pass

This post has been edited by afosz: Jan 20 2007, 10:15 AM

thats why uni's system wont give them graduate with honor....once u resit...u wont get first class anymore although u score A after resit the subject....its kinda unfair for those who get Bs or Cs if they threat the resiter equally with those ppls that nv resit for their course.....

time and time again
this all depends on the uni
i dunno about tarc
but other universities allow repeaters to repeat and get an A
for the simple reason that the uni must let them graduate cuz until u pass that subject, u wont be able to grad
and i dunno bout other unis, but mostly even if u fail, if u manage to repeat and get an A, and upgrade ur CGPA beyond the par for honours (usually 3.5 and above).

Resit also can get A meh ? I don't think so lah! It is unfair and unacceptable.

why not?

tertiery education is different from school days. the point here is KNOWLEDGE gathering where exams dont really matter. in this system, the institution recognizes the fact that some students learn slower than others (not including dislexic or other forms of learning disabilities). it's not fair to punish such students for their shortcomings.

so what does the system offer? u can still score if u study longer. if u fail this time, trying again until u pass. now... isnt that a great environment to LEARN?

when looking 4 jobs,will interviewers c the CGPA result transcript or just the graduation scroll?

haha.... they will just ask you one thing, why should i hire you in my org?

I think ur graduation scroll will indicate whetner u are a good student or not.
like graduate with distinction/ 1st class vs graduate with pass/2nd lower class.

I was once asked which "part (eg. AR, AP, costing, GL)" of accounting department u wan to get into ?? I answer costing.
The interviewer ask me : "What is ur grade for Costing ? let me see your college result !!"

If u are freshgraduate, CGPA does matter a lot !!
CGPA is an indication whetner u are capable or not to perform, whetner u are smart enough to listen to instruction, whetner u are fast enough to learn !!

However, Expected salary sometimes is determinant whetner u get the job. If u demand too high regardless u are the best student of the year, u won't get hired!!

QUOTE(azarimy @ Jan 23 2007, 09:49 AM)

No, I don't agree !!

If u wan to study longer, u can study like 12-15 hours a day to catch up!! I am a slow (very slow) student myself, but doesn't mean that I have the advantage of failing & repeating the same subject.

In your way, it is encouraging them to repeat and repeat the same subjects and by dropping other subjects. This cycle just go on and on, endlessly.

In the real world, employer won't let u to "repeat" !!! So, come on... If resit, there's OK, but u get an "A", it is encourage student to fail.
(The fact is TARC failing rate for diploma is ranging 30-40%)

agreed!!! it's kinda unfair for those who get Bs n Cs....they cant resit....private colleges shouldnt based on this kind of system...it's indirectly to encourage students get fail rather than get Bs n Cs......some says " try to ask the lecturer to fail me" ? is it logic? inside their mind only have As or Fail?

dude, this system is being used WORLDWIDE. deal with it.

the slower students will have to pay more, and spend more time. in the world where everyone is whining about why it takes so long to do a degree, TIME is not a luxury most people used to have.

why are we questioning this? have u not been to a proper university before?

hmm...
the most important question is why are u even asking the question on the justice to allow students to repeat and get an A

if ur slow, then study smart not study hard
do u really think those who failed are dumb
i begin to think dat way since high school
i never scored a single thing except science,agama islam and english (i was one of the best malay student for english...i mean i speak,write and understands better in english than those malay who stayed overseas all their lives)
but those who didnt score in exams could have scored better outside...in the real world...
thats what we call street smart

smart lawyers arent the one who can argue on laws itself...they are the ones who can manage the case by just go straight forward and essentially know who the judge of the case and make do with so little knowledge they have

smart doctors know what their patients wants and needs...not just administer this and dat drugs based on the rule of the book

smart student would know how to get to the lecturer in exams...not just blabber this and that vomiting what they have learnt all this while

the most basic thing about being smart is to know the most simple way,not the easy way at most times aint simple, but in knowing its simple he embroadens it to reach the objective

it boils back to common sense
i'd prefer a late bloomer in my company than an egoistical brainy ones cuz the latter might not know how to handle people

so live with it
CGPA does reflect who u are
but thats marginally important
priority should be given to ur command in using ur common sense or basically street smart

This post has been edited by gtoforce: Jan 23 2007, 06:41 PM

Since threadstarter is stating TARC.

What TARC will do for those that fail during the last semester is they will be shortlisted for a simple test. Eventually, all of them will pass and attend the same graduation ceremony with their friends (same batch).* Therefore, there is no wasting time, A resit paper in TARC cost RM 50 (around that,right?) Can u afford??

*This apply to those that fail one to two papers.
If more than that, ya u have to resit again.