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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V65, Standard stock sampai tak boleh stock la

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post Nov 12 2014, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Nov 12 2014, 04:12 PM)
ya lor if jump then land in lonkang i cry d haha
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I always step on clutch before starting up the car, good and safe habit.
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post Nov 12 2014, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Nov 12 2014, 05:43 PM)
buka 4 pintu, bonet depan dan boot belakang.
kasi tutup bonet depan baik2, itu pintu sume kasi tutup kuat ckit.
itu boot belakang kasi hentam tutup lagi kuat ckit.
kadang2 dia punya sensor lari, tutup tapi ingat tak tutup, sebab tu lampu berkelip dan beep  kali.
try test
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My sensor also bo sensitive di. sad.gif

open door light takes some time to switch on. Then it auto lock after i open and close quickly, it assumes i did not open the door. sleep.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Nov 12 2014, 05:51 PM)
Those manual cars with keyless engine start button also require you to press the clutch in order to start the car  biggrin.gif

Don't see those alot in Malaysia though....most cars with keyless start button in Malaysia is usually auto, which requires you to press on the brake pedal instead.
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Got kah manuar car keyless in malaysia? Err crz is it?

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post Nov 12 2014, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 12 2014, 06:10 PM)
Mostly enthusiast cars....CRZ, 208 GTi, Fiesta/Focus ST, Renault Megane RS......

AANNNDD,......

Proton Iriz 1.6 Premium MT  laugh.gif
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LOOOLlllĺllllllLLL...

But the iriz 1.6 m hasnt came out right?
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post Nov 12 2014, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Nov 12 2014, 08:29 PM)
majority 1.6 buyers takes either 1.6 Exec CVT or 1.6P CVT anyway...
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At least proton still produce decent manual cars, the manual driving community is dying sad.gif
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post Nov 14 2014, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 14 2014, 07:29 AM)
I usually wake up @ 5, then prepare my protein shakes, boil water make milk for kids. Once gaodim, check forum abit, play Ice Age. About 6 need to drop a few pounds & shower liao. So basically its the same routine on weekdays nod.gif Dotter skol starts @ 7:15, so no choice lar gotta leave home 6:45 due to trafuk kondisen despite only 2km away sad.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 14 2014, 08:26 AM)
Here's what's next. After 2 years+ of ownership with my BLM, trying so hard to improve its throttle response, now that I came to a solid conclusion after witnessing several GaGa in the attempt of "increase horse power" on a dyno machine.

The stock 4-1 manifold is indeed too short before hitting the catcon. Hence exhaust flow was blocked due to conflict of cylinder purge. Anyone who change their exhaust manifold to after market performance extractor will indeed restore some horse power, we're looking @ about 5-10 wheel horse power! If u have an idea of tuning a normal aspirated engine, each wheel horse power gain is a thousand dollar investment! Have seen most if not all Campro S4PE running on standard extractor below 80whp, some worst below 70whp. Whereas many other S4PE who replaced their extractor to after market had a significant power restored to 80 & above. So far the highest power dyno output I've seen is 95.5whp & 95whp. Both of them are our forum member.

When u ask for decat, the 1st thing in mind is environment & polution. Frankly, I do not encourage removal of catcon. So my next big thing is, after installation of after market performance extractor, I'm going to put back a catcon to see how much power loss after the 5-10whp restoration. If after catcon can still bring me back to 80whp region, I'm more than happy to keep it that way as a tree hugger.

Finally, the significant of 4-2-1 & 4-1 extractor. Sadly, what I believed all these while was partially untruth & no opportunity to make comparison between the 2 evil on a same car(who would wanna have 2 sets of extractor on a same car just to dyno for the truth). Anyway, some comparison was done between similar layout of vehicle with similar mods has been done. So here's the truth, 2 B16A was tested on the same day.

Specimen A) HKS green mushroom with Spoon sausage intake ram, Mugen 4-1, hotbits bullet, 2" piping & Spoon S-flow, yielded 142whp with drastic jump on vtec opening on stock ECU.

Specimen B) Spoon sport drop in filter, TODA 4-2-1, hotbits bullet, 2" piping & Fujitsubo chambered muffler, yielded 143whp with slightly smoother vetc opening on stock ECU.

I have no picture to show u as owners preferred stay anonymous for their security reasons. Anyways, the comparison between the 2 EGs are on the same dyno platform. The result shown 4-1 extractor has less initial power output due to conflict of exhaust purge I believe. However, once rpm raise to 4k, torque curve for 4-1 improved significantly better than 4-2-1 due to straight output with less joints. Whilst 4-2-1 slowly catching up by 6krpm, both car show similar power curve 1 stays @ 142, another @ 143. I wouldn't know whether the chambered muffler has restricted exhaust flow from 4-2-1 or the Spoon S-flow helps on the big jump of vtec gain for 4-1 extractor.

My conclusion is, either way they should yield similar output where 4-1 give much better mid/high end power, whereas 4-2-1 is generally smoother & steady output system. I going to work with 4-2-1 and show u my dyno chart once its done. And the follow up action will be having catcon & decat comparison. Have a good day.
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Great insight story!

Say if midbox change to bullet or retain it if I follow 4-2-1 path? Maybe maintain stock piping je.

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post Nov 14 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 14 2014, 04:59 PM)
with stock piping not so worst.. mostly none or 1-2% hardly will feel it...  ori pipping size around 1.6" iinm

but prefer sifu comment i juz base on my car setup and feel...
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Nov 14 2014, 06:20 PM)
Good info there.
You can retain the stock piping since what we mostly done is light mod so the stock piping size is adequate.

Just to add on what david mentioned, some ask how is 4-2-1 behave in highway speed...From me using it I feel no lost in power even staying at 5000rpm. The choices of whether to go 4-1 or 4-2-1 is personal preferences and overall you are just shifting the power curve along the RPM range as what david's post has shown with the 2 EG. It's either your peak power comes early or later in the RPM range. Just like how people put in adjustable cam pulley with stock camshaft. You are just changing the power curve as you adjust the opening timing of the valves and be reminded that your opening lift degree is still the same.
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Based on both comments, besok change 4-2-1 liao. brows.gif

I do highway driving to work every day, so yea, would report in next few weeks of the response.
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post Nov 14 2014, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 14 2014, 09:26 PM)
Hold the poney just a little more while whistling.gif Ayam gaji not in yet. Nowadays, other than TONNKA, I haven't seen any extractor dyno result comparison before/after stock mods whistling.gif So, you wanna go spend money for butt dyno means go ahead whistling.gif

Be remind, TONNKA result I've got is also not officially from their own promotional material. I collected data from their consumer instead! So far, all boley land modder that promote their ekzos gain powah, none of them put up dyno chart komparison YET whistling.gif Do you believe promotional results from manufacturer? Or believe in consumer before/after dyno feedback whistling.gif
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Budget berape for tonnka? Okok la for boss punye pasal. Where can fix if got?
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post Nov 15 2014, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Nov 14 2014, 10:33 PM)
went for serviced yesterday , cannot change spark plug lor, spark coil stuck wei four of them stuck, mechanic oso ask me whether want to cont or not, i dare not to gamble later four of em patah susah la..btw my mileage at 60k km, tomorrow mau hntar pigi proton sc and let them wait the coil to kecut a bit..might leave car for and collect in the evening.
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Tersumbat? blink.gif
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post Nov 15 2014, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Nov 15 2014, 07:01 AM)
not first time mah.
alot times dy saga punya coil stuck there haha
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Haih apa la saga whistling.gif

So early wake uppp yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif yawn.gif
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post Nov 15 2014, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 15 2014, 10:08 AM)
TONNKA looking for thousand. Ayam going for an alternative. So, you'll have to wait for a cheap investment than. Looking at about RM500.
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Sifu go fix and report in. Dah so gatal, dad helped me fix todeh first hehehe. At least free a little hp there.
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post Nov 15 2014, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Nov 15 2014, 05:10 PM)
not wake up, time to sleep haha. now only wake up.
how much u pasang and where? nice?
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My regular exhaust guy in duyung. He actually lives in my neigbourhood, not yet test car. In kl, later go back test. Cap ayam punye je kot. Have to feel it for myself hehehe.
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post Nov 15 2014, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Nov 15 2014, 06:55 PM)
u in kl now? tak bagitaw~
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Not at shah alam bro. sleep.gif

But in fact i dropped by setia city mall just now but very short time, now otw back. tongue.gif


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post Nov 16 2014, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(athrunzaru @ Nov 15 2014, 10:07 PM)
hai saga LYNers, new member here with 2 year old saga flx cvt exec reporting
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Your headlights modify hid kah? As per your profile pic. JPJ sana bo tangkap ah? laugh.gif

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post Nov 16 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Nov 15 2014, 05:10 PM)
not wake up, time to sleep haha. now only wake up.
how much u pasang and where? nice?
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Bazinga! Nah pic, belom test lagi extensively on highway, sound je ganas starting from 3k rpm. Damage: 250.

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 16 2014, 10:07 AM)
2 moons ago, we so happened managed to bring 1 of our own S4P3 GaGa go dyno. Whilst we managed to squeezed 95.5whp, the blacktop who spent 10s of thousands on tuning & performance parts, clocked 114whp whistling.gif
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Can imagine the smug face of us gaga owners on the toyota dude brows.gif

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post Nov 16 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 16 2014, 09:45 PM)
fuiyo, but looks on the details works still look better thn mine...  cry.gif  cry.gif
u lo, siapa lagi...  whistling.gif
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Apa la. Your pic mane? Poison us a bit. Your exhaust man problem ke? hmm.gif
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post Nov 17 2014, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Nov 16 2014, 11:58 PM)
not the exhuast man... its the ppl who do the extractor... ur four pipe all circle/oval in shape.. mine like a bit pinch circle type..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Gambar la dulu. sleep.gif

Then we see see. Whether you need to change or not brows.gif
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post Nov 17 2014, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Effy92 @ Nov 17 2014, 10:57 AM)
The longest distance ever per tank that I've travel with gaga yesterday.

PJ > Taiping Zoo (highway)
Taiping > Teluk Intan > PJ (normal road)

reach 600km still not lit up yet  brows.gif
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low fuel indicator lite up at 604km when i reach office this morning, not fuel up yet.
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God car. Your average speed?
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QUOTE(Effy92 @ Nov 17 2014, 12:49 PM)
highway 90kph overtaking sometime 100kph, air con number 1, warmest temp
normal road 70-90kph, if no car always 90kph, no use aircon due to rainy season and night time
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I cant stay that kind of speed at highway, i'll get sleepy. Unless traffic jam or heavy traffic 90km/h would be alright.
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Any reasonable usb HU aftermarket would do the trick? Saw some china brand HU around < 300 bucks. Ok or not? Speakers 2 unit maybe invest in better ones. tongue.gif
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post Nov 18 2014, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 18 2014, 12:01 AM)
So u come siram this thread to overtake Insapla tered issit?  thumbup.gif
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Quickly spam more, confirm overtake liao. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Nov 18 2014, 01:30 AM)
n3w i dont know other shops price, but last time i change for kancil HU i amik kenwood, siap with usb and ipod playing features, also less than 250 bro. pasang kedai abang charge rm30(expensive) but oh well.
now i saw some entry level pioneer kenwood at kedai abang less than 200 dy. u need jalan2 check bro hahaha
go malim brothers, alot choices biggrin.gif
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I go gai gai around accessories see how much. If want to fix also one shot put extra speakers at driver's door di.

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