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TSCAC@MBO
post Nov 2 2014, 04:42 PM, updated 12y ago

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Hi guys, I'm new in here. Just want some suggestion regarding my desktop customization.

Last few months I customize one for dad (which occasionally I borrowed it for gaming), as i owned a lousy laptop.
Price is RM2800++ with Ori OS and other cha-ba-lang stuff.
Specs was:
-I5 4440 3.1ghz
-Gigabyte B85M-D3H
-4GB 1600 DDR3 RAM
-Sapp R7 260X OC 2GB
-WB Blue 1TB
-Aerocool Strike X 500W PSU
-LG DVD, Samsung 19.5inch LCD LED, W8.1 64bit etc.

Which happen cpu auto shutdown occasionally (twice in a week?), could it be possible low PSU?

Now I'm getting mine as laptop (7years) died. >w<
-I7 4770K 3.5GHZ - RM1085
-Z87-G41 PC MATE - RM 325
-8GB RAM Kingston FuryX - RM277
-Kingston SSD (120GB) - RM 239
-WD Green HDD (2TB) - RM257
-Sapp R7 260X OC 2GB - RM445
-Cooler Master G650M 650W PSU - RM325

Just wonder is the PSU sufficient to power it? >w<
Compare to my previous customization, cost addtional (rm1127) cry.gif
Other like DVD, Monitor will buy the same I guess...
Roughly RM4k... sweat.gif still thinking buy or not such price.

Majority use for gaming , especially for AC series (Assassin Creed Unity coming) rclxms.gif

Any suggestions for cheaper or value per ringgit hardware for this?
Thanks in Advance. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by CAC@MBO: Nov 2 2014, 04:44 PM
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post Nov 2 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(CAC@MBO @ Nov 2 2014, 04:42 PM)
Hi guys, I'm new in here. Just want some suggestion regarding my desktop customization.

Last few months I customize one for dad (which occasionally I borrowed it for gaming), as i owned a lousy laptop.
Price is RM2800++ with Ori OS and other cha-ba-lang stuff.
Specs was:
-I5 4440 3.1ghz
-Gigabyte B85M-D3H
-4GB 1600 DDR3 RAM
-Sapp R7 260X OC 2GB
-WB Blue 1TB
-Aerocool Strike X 500W PSU
-LG DVD, Samsung 19.5inch LCD LED, W8.1 64bit etc.

Which happen cpu auto shutdown occasionally (twice in a week?), could it be possible low PSU?

Now I'm getting mine as laptop (7years) died. >w<
-I7 4770K 3.5GHZ - RM1085
-Z87-G41 PC MATE - RM 325
-8GB RAM Kingston FuryX - RM277
-Kingston SSD (120GB) - RM 239
-WD Green HDD (2TB) - RM257
-Sapp R7 260X OC 2GB - RM445
-Cooler Master G650M 650W PSU - RM325

Just wonder is the PSU sufficient to power it? >w<
Compare to my previous customization, cost addtional (rm1127)  cry.gif
Other like DVD, Monitor will buy the same I guess...
Roughly RM4k...  sweat.gif  still thinking buy or not such price.

Majority use for gaming , especially for AC series (Assassin Creed Unity coming)  rclxms.gif

Any suggestions for cheaper or value per ringgit hardware for this?
Thanks in Advance.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Your i5 machine is having random shut downs? hmm.gif
Might be the CPU overheating... You may need to clean your CPU heatsink, and ensure that the heatsink is properly seated. Stock LGA1150 heatsink can be notoriously tricky to install if you are not familiar with the installation. icon_idea.gif

Are you upgrading, or are you getting a new machine? hmm.gif

Don't bother with PC Depot... I found out the selections are pretty scarce... sweat.gif
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post Nov 2 2014, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Nov 2 2014, 04:55 PM)
Your i5 machine is having random shut downs? hmm.gif
Might be the CPU overheating...  You may need to clean your CPU heatsink, and ensure that the heatsink is properly seated.  Stock LGA1150 heatsink can be notoriously tricky to install if you are not familiar with the installation. icon_idea.gif

Are you upgrading, or are you getting a new machine?  hmm.gif

Don't bother with PC Depot...  I found out the selections are pretty scarce... sweat.gif
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Hi Bro, haha. My father I5... some sort like random shut down... maybe 1-2 times in a week. CPU light all are off, but i need to press power button 2 times to turn it on again.
I asked PC depot they also no idea. LOL blink.gif
Ya... i familiar with specs but not installation... so is possible heatsink not properly seated? I'll google and check.

I upgrading from my spoiled Laptop (core 2 duo) ... haha.
But Pc Depot seems to be more selection in my Area... KL would be plenty choices I guess.

Thinking of getting I5 4440 instead of I7, and put extra budget on GPU? like R9 270X? (suggestion from a friend). >w<
Needed for Gaming ~ thumbup.gif
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post Nov 2 2014, 06:04 PM

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Most likely your PSU is not providing enough power to sustain the system. Is the Aerocool PSU a true power PSU? If it isn't, you will be better off getting a new PSU (get those from Corsair, Tagan, Silverstone or Seasonic). A 500W true power PSU will be enough for your build.

Based on my experience, I always have my PC shutdown automatically when I was using cheap PSU. I had never once encounter such problem after using true power PSU ever since.
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post Nov 2 2014, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Nov 2 2014, 06:04 PM)
Most likely your PSU is not providing enough power to sustain the system. Is the Aerocool PSU a true power PSU? If it isn't, you will be better off getting a new PSU (get those from Corsair, Tagan, Silverstone or Seasonic). A 500W true power PSU will be enough for your build.

Based on my experience, I always have my PC shutdown automatically when I was using cheap PSU. I had never once encounter such problem after using true power PSU ever since.
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Hi Man, thanks for your opinion. But how to determine TRUE Power PSU? base on price?
For this build, I think I'm getting CoolerMaster PSU.

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post Nov 2 2014, 06:14 PM

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I would say invest more in GPU than getting i7, and personally doesn't really recommend Cooler Master, there are better choices out there, like those brand suggested by Thrust.

If you're from Penang, I would suggest GTech solution (in Mainland though), they carry more choices than PC-Depot, and they selling in lowyat forum too.
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post Nov 2 2014, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(bergstein @ Nov 2 2014, 06:14 PM)
I would say invest more in GPU than getting i7, and personally doesn't really recommend Cooler Master, there are better choices out there, like those brand suggested by Thrust.

If you're from Penang, I would suggest GTech solution (in Mainland though), they carry more choices than PC-Depot, and they selling in lowyat forum too.
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Thanks man, you said the same as my friend did, invest more in GPU than getting I7. rclxms.gif
I see, , I'll check on other choices of PSU from Gtech, thanks.
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This post has been edited by CAC@MBO: Nov 2 2014, 06:34 PM
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post Nov 2 2014, 06:36 PM

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i5 is sufficient for gaming. No need to spend a premium for i7.

Back to PSU, if you get the brands I've recommended, they are all true power.
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post Nov 2 2014, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Nov 2 2014, 06:36 PM)
i5 is sufficient for gaming. No need to spend a premium for i7.

Back to PSU, if you get the brands I've recommended, they are all true power.
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I see, Okie. biggrin.gif

Ok, I'll checking on them now.
Thanks for all the suggestions. smile.gif
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post Nov 2 2014, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(CAC@MBO @ Nov 2 2014, 04:42 PM)
Hi guys, I'm new in here. Just want some suggestion regarding my desktop customization.

Last few months I customize one for dad (which occasionally I borrowed it for gaming), as i owned a lousy laptop.
Price is RM2800++ with Ori OS and other cha-ba-lang stuff.
Specs was:
-I5 4440 3.1ghz
-Gigabyte B85M-D3H
-4GB 1600 DDR3 RAM
-Sapp R7 260X OC 2GB
-WB Blue 1TB
-Aerocool Strike X 500W PSU
-LG DVD, Samsung 19.5inch LCD LED, W8.1 64bit etc.

Which happen cpu auto shutdown occasionally (twice in a week?), could it be possible low PSU?

Now I'm getting mine as laptop (7years) died. >w<
-I7 4770K 3.5GHZ - RM1085
-Z87-G41 PC MATE - RM 325
-8GB RAM Kingston FuryX - RM277
-Kingston SSD (120GB) - RM 239
-WD Green HDD (2TB) - RM257
-Sapp R7 260X OC 2GB - RM445
-Cooler Master G650M 650W PSU - RM325

Just wonder is the PSU sufficient to power it? >w<
Compare to my previous customization, cost addtional (rm1127)  cry.gif
Other like DVD, Monitor will buy the same I guess...
Roughly RM4k...  sweat.gif  still thinking buy or not such price.

Majority use for gaming , especially for AC series (Assassin Creed Unity coming)  rclxms.gif

Any suggestions for cheaper or value per ringgit hardware for this?
Thanks in Advance.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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You wanna get a build too,right?Do you plan on OCing?

CPU:Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM795
MoBo:Asrock H97-Pro4 RM329
GPU:Gainward GTX970 4GB GDDR5 RM1099
RAM:GSkill Aegis 8GB DDr3 1600MHz RM249
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM179
SSD:Intel 530 Series 120GB RM279
Casing:Bitfenix Neos RM169
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:LG 23MP65H RM579
Total:RM4036
Prices are from IdealTech. smile.gif

They provide free shipping for rigs above 2.5K.. icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 2 2014, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Thrust @ Nov 2 2014, 06:36 PM)
i5 is sufficient for gaming. No need to spend a premium for i7.

Back to PSU, if you get the brands I've recommended, they are all true power.
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Assassin' Creed Unity recommended system requirements is i7 3770

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-10-...ements-revealed
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri?...temId=12370&p=r
http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-unity-pc-specs/Attached Image

BTW i5 is not sufficient for games title from 2014 above. I had bad experience with i5 3570K even OC where is not sufficient for new titles games especially multiplayer mode. shakehead.gif




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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Nov 2 2014, 08:56 PM)
You wanna get a build too,right?Do you plan on OCing?

CPU:Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM795
MoBo:Asrock H97-Pro4 RM329
GPU:Gainward GTX970 4GB GDDR5 RM1099
RAM:GSkill Aegis 8GB DDr3 1600MHz RM249
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM179
SSD:Intel 530 Series 120GB RM279
Casing:Bitfenix Neos RM169
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:LG 23MP65H RM579
Total:RM4036
Prices are from IdealTech. smile.gif

They provide free shipping for rigs above 2.5K.. icon_idea.gif
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Brilliant RIG!!! thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif notworthy.gif
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post Nov 3 2014, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(CAC@MBO @ Nov 2 2014, 05:50 PM)
Hi Bro, haha. My father I5... some sort like random shut down... maybe 1-2 times in a week. CPU light all are off, but i need to press power button 2 times to turn it on again.
I asked PC depot they also no idea. LOL  blink.gif
Ya... i familiar with specs but not installation... so is possible heatsink not properly seated? I'll google and check.

I upgrading from my spoiled Laptop (core 2 duo) ... haha.
But Pc Depot seems to be more selection in my Area... KL would be plenty choices I guess.

Thinking of getting I5 4440 instead of I7, and put extra budget on GPU? like R9 270X? (suggestion from a friend). >w<
Needed for Gaming ~  thumbup.gif
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hmm.gif islands @ mainland


if mainland can i check it for you nod.gif
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post Nov 3 2014, 09:36 AM

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You are running high end card with low grade power supply. Recommended to go at least 550W for low grade power supply. Aerocool Strike-X is Tier 4 power supply and made by Andyson.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-18047...-tier-list.html

Would recommend replacing it better power supply. Seasonic, Corsair, Antec and Coolermaster (only V series) will be the ones you are looking for.

As for the rig, 2014 games minimum recommended is Core i5. If you can go Xeon or i7, it's better.
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post Nov 3 2014, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(Minecrafter @ Nov 2 2014, 08:56 PM)
You wanna get a build too,right?Do you plan on OCing?

CPU:Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz RM795
MoBo:Asrock H97-Pro4 RM329
GPU:Gainward GTX970 4GB GDDR5 RM1099
RAM:GSkill Aegis 8GB DDr3 1600MHz RM249
HDD:WD Caviar Blue 1TB RM179
SSD:Intel 530 Series 120GB RM279
Casing:Bitfenix Neos RM169
PSU:Seasonic S12II 80+ Bronze 620W RM299
ODD:Liteon 24x DVDRW RM59
Monitor:LG 23MP65H RM579
Total:RM4036
Prices are from IdealTech. smile.gif

They provide free shipping for rigs above 2.5K.. icon_idea.gif
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Wow, looks awesome. >w< still thinking whether to put rm4k on a pc. still not including wifi pcie, speaker combo and mouse/keyboard combo. cry.gif poor die


QUOTE(Harold2009 @ Nov 2 2014, 09:20 PM)
Assassin' Creed Unity recommended system requirements is i7 3770

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-10-...ements-revealed
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri?...temId=12370&p=r
http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-unity-pc-specs/Attached Image

BTW i5 is not sufficient for games title from 2014 above. I had bad experience with i5 3570K even OC where is not sufficient for new titles games especially multiplayer mode.  shakehead.gif
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wow, this is bad.... i5 insufficient? >w<
i use my dad i5 playing AC black flag, watch dog, amazing spiderman, all smooth.
looks like all game "evolving" fast.


QUOTE(meons @ Nov 3 2014, 07:58 AM)
hmm.gif islands @ mainland 
if mainland  can i check it for you nod.gif
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Yes, i'm from mainland, nearby PC DEPOT Pacific. thats why also go there buy stuff. >w<

QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 3 2014, 09:36 AM)
You are running high end card with low grade power supply. Recommended to go at least 550W for low grade power supply. Aerocool Strike-X is Tier 4 power supply and made by Andyson.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-18047...-tier-list.html

Would recommend replacing it better power supply. Seasonic, Corsair, Antec and Coolermaster (only V series) will be the ones you are looking for.

As for the rig, 2014 games minimum recommended is Core i5. If you can go Xeon or i7, it's better.
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I see, thanks lolz. damn the pc depot say 500w is enough. >w<
oic... better get my budget see... T3T

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btw, can i further ask, i seen lots recommendation regarding corsair brand, i check a shop name swisspac offer various of corsair made (psu, ram etc), is it all made by corsair good in overall?

hmm.gif seen from many website, they recommend corsair, seasonic etc.
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QUOTE(CAC@MBO @ Nov 3 2014, 10:58 PM)
btw, can i further ask, i seen lots recommendation regarding corsair brand, i check a shop name swisspac offer various of corsair made (psu, ram etc), is it all made by corsair good in overall?

hmm.gif  seen from many website, they recommend corsair, seasonic etc.
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Because the lowest tier for Corsair is Tier 3 and lowest for Seasonic is Tier 2. They are from top quality to mid grade. They don't sell low grade power supplies. Also, Coolermaster stepped up their game as well. Their V series is good.

Quality also comes with a price.
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 4 2014, 01:37 AM)
Because the lowest tier for Corsair is Tier 3 and lowest for Seasonic is Tier 2. They are from top quality to mid grade. They don't sell low grade power supplies. Also, Coolermaster stepped up their game as well. Their V series is good.

Quality also comes with a price.
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I see ,that information is helpful. No wonder I can see Corsair stuff slighter expensive compare to other brand.
thanks. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(CAC@MBO @ Nov 3 2014, 09:46 PM)
Wow, looks awesome. >w< still thinking whether to put rm4k on a pc. still not including wifi pcie, speaker combo and mouse/keyboard combo.  cry.gif  poor die
wow, this is bad.... i5 insufficient? >w<
i use my dad i5 playing AC black flag, watch dog, amazing spiderman, all smooth.
looks like all game "evolving" fast.
Yes, i'm from mainland, nearby PC DEPOT Pacific. thats why also go there buy stuff. >w<
I see, thanks lolz. damn the pc depot say 500w is enough. >w<
oic... better get my budget see... T3T
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contact her hikari85 , her shop near raja uda

This post has been edited by hown: Nov 4 2014, 09:00 PM
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If you're just gonna use your rig mostly for gaming and not for content creation, getting an i5 would be sufficient for your usage. Most games don't utilise more than 2 threads on your CPU, when the i5 already has 4 and the i7 has 8.

If you're really making a budget GAMING rig, get the Intel G3258 and overclock the s**t out of that chip. On a gaming level it loses out slightly to the i7 4790k (also overclocked). (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evXpqpNhu_Y)

Use the money you saved for a BEAST graphic card, THAT will improve your gaming experience by a LOT more.

Lastly, don't cheap out on power supplies. Get a good quality brand and give a 100W or 200W headroom. Meaning get a 600W PSU even if your system only needs 500W. If possible try to get 80Plus Gold rating and above ones to be sure you're getting steady power delivery.

All the best in your rig!



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