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wt_vinci
post Nov 22 2018, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Nov 21 2018, 11:41 AM)
Thats a good question! Because i just signed up for FSMone. HKEX seems to be the cheapest !

Which broker would you recommend?
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would you mind sharing your cost on purchasing etf via HKEX using fsmone? i did not know FSM Singapore sells Vanguard ETFs as FSM Malaysia doesn't if i'm not mistaken.

my total cost per annum when i buy Vanguard ETF VWRL ireland-domiciled is around 0.80% pa. this cost includes trading cost (purchase twice a year plus forex losses and fees MYR->Euro), tax witholding and fund expense. i am using captrader which uses IB as its backend fyi.


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post Nov 22 2018, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(wt_vinci @ Nov 22 2018, 10:14 AM)
would you mind sharing your cost on purchasing etf via HKEX using fsmone? i did not know FSM Singapore sells Vanguard ETFs as FSM Malaysia doesn't if i'm not mistaken.

my total cost per annum when i buy Vanguard ETF VWRL ireland-domiciled is around 0.80% pa. this cost includes trading cost (purchase twice a year plus forex losses and fees MYR->Euro), tax witholding and fund expense. i am using captrader which uses IB as its backend fyi.
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https://secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/new-to...icing-structure

0.08% min 25 HKD + Stamp duty etc

Forex i transfer through instarem from here to bank account in sg.


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post Nov 22 2018, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(wt_vinci @ Nov 22 2018, 10:02 AM)
TW charges 0.63% if i convert my usd to euro then transfer to IB. converting at usb to euro at IB is cheaper and fixed cost. correct me if i'm wrong.

my deposits path is as follows:

MYR -> USD via Instarem -> TW

TW -> USD to IB -> IB converts USD to Euro
this is the most cost optimised path that i can figure out. please correct me if i'm wrong.
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Have you considered this path?

MYR -> EUR via Instarem -> TW

TW -> EUR to IB [no conversion, just a small fee (< €1) for withdrawal ]
wt_vinci
post Nov 23 2018, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Nov 22 2018, 02:09 PM)
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/new-to...icing-structure

0.08% min 25 HKD + Stamp duty etc

Forex i transfer through instarem from here to bank account in sg.
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thanks for sharing. the website seems to show 50 HKD min. still better than our local brokerage.
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post Nov 23 2018, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(hyperzz @ Nov 22 2018, 04:18 PM)
Have you considered this path?

MYR -> EUR via Instarem -> TW

TW -> EUR to IB  [no conversion, just a small fee (<  €1) for withdrawal ]
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instarem doesn't support MYR to Euro at the moment else it would be perfect.
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post Nov 23 2018, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(wt_vinci @ Nov 23 2018, 10:34 AM)
thanks for sharing. the website seems to show 50 HKD min. still better than our local brokerage.
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sorry typo, my brain was thinking RM 25 most probably. Not a bad deal for long term investments
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post Nov 23 2018, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(wt_vinci @ Nov 23 2018, 10:35 AM)
instarem doesn't support MYR to Euro at the moment else it would be perfect.
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I see. Haven't used Instarem before.
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post Nov 24 2018, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(wt_vinci @ Nov 23 2018, 10:35 AM)
instarem doesn't support MYR to Euro at the moment else it would be perfect.
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Actually they do support EUR. Just type into the box EUR
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post Nov 24 2018, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Nov 21 2018, 11:45 AM)
True, you can keep on waiting, but when will you go in ? Emerging markets already down 15% YTD so i think maybe its time. To each their own. As always , some will say its catching a falling knife , if you can see the bottom, please do share with me too!
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Saw this ETF heat map today.

Basically in the about to be more RED phase, in my biased view. Ha.

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 24 2018, 06:14 PM)
Saw this ETF heat map today.

Basically in the about to be more RED phase, in my biased view. Ha.

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sorry, i do not really get what you mean . Ha
wt_vinci
post Nov 25 2018, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 24 2018, 02:26 PM)
Actually they do support EUR. Just type into the box EUR
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that was what i thought until i actually did the transaction. rejected afterwards.


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post Nov 25 2018, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 24 2018, 06:14 PM)
Saw this ETF heat map today.

Basically in the about to be more RED phase, in my biased view. Ha.

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the best time to buy is when everyone is selling... haha
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post Nov 25 2018, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Nov 24 2018, 09:45 PM)
sorry, i do not really get what you mean . Ha
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Look at the bottom right for the color indication.

Consider these 2 extremes:

ALL GREEN = all ETF are returning at 3+%

ALL RED = all ETF are returning at -3%

What is indicated in the heat map now is ......


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post Nov 25 2018, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 25 2018, 09:10 AM)
Look at the bottom right for the color indication.

Consider these 2 extremes:

ALL GREEN = all ETF are returning at 3+%

ALL RED = all ETF are returning at -3%

What is indicated in the heat map now is ......
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Haha, that one I obviously know , it is from finviz, not sure what your reply meant only . ha
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post Nov 29 2018, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 8 2018, 05:46 AM)
Don't tell me you didn't know TW got no license to transfer money from malaysia. doh.gif doh.gif
They can only transfer money to Malaysia.
Use instarem,  merchant trade,  max money to transfer money to TW > IB. Don't transfer straight as if you transfer straight,  money not under your name.
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Sorry for necro'ing an old post.

The most ideal currency conversions would be as follows:-

Deposit
Using merchantrade(e-remit)/max money/instarem ----(pay MYR from our bank account to remit USD)---> Transferwise borderless account ---(ACH/wire)---> IB bank account

Withdrawing
IB bank account --(ACH/Wire)--> Transferwise borderless account ----(Convert from USD to MYR and remit)---> Our Malaysian bank account




And this is much cheaper than just Foreign telegraphic transferring - mostly due to the crappy rates that our local banks give right?
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post Nov 29 2018, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(toiletwater @ Nov 29 2018, 04:59 PM)
Sorry for necro'ing an old post.

The most ideal currency conversions would be as follows:-

Deposit
Using merchantrade(e-remit)/max money/instarem ----(pay MYR from our bank account to remit USD)---> Transferwise borderless account ---(ACH/wire)---> IB bank account

Withdrawing
IB bank account --(ACH/Wire)--> Transferwise borderless account ----(Convert from USD to MYR and remit)---> Our Malaysian bank account
And this is much cheaper than just Foreign telegraphic transferring - mostly due to the crappy rates that our local banks give right?
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Not sure if IB accept third part transfer. tongue.gif
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post Dec 2 2018, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(hyperzz @ Oct 29 2018, 06:08 AM)
You can find Captrader's fee and commissions here:

Captrader
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I would like to confirm if I have say USD2000 inside, but not buying anything, will kena charged?
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post Dec 2 2018, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 2 2018, 10:41 AM)
I would like to confirm if I have say USD2000 inside,  but not buying anything, will kena charged?
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Nope, you won't be charged inactivity fee.
Captrader has answered this in their FAQ section.

Captrader FAQ

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Is there a monthly minimum turnover or fixed account and deposit fees?

In general there are no monthly minimum turnover fees or other running fees with CapTrader. Reverting monthly costs will only be charged if you have chosen Realtime packages (real-time course subscriptions).

An inactivity fee will only be charged if your total value of your account-balance is less than $ 1,000 (or equivalent) and you are not trading actively / leave your account "resting". This fee is 1 USD per calendar month according to the above criteria.


Therefore, you will be charged inactivity fee of $1/month only if you fulfill both conditions:

1) Account balance is less than $1000 AND
2) No trading activity in that particular month.

This requirement is way more lenient than the similar requirement imposed by IB.

This post has been edited by hyperzz: Dec 3 2018, 07:26 AM
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post Dec 3 2018, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(hyperzz @ Dec 2 2018, 11:11 PM)
Nope, you won't be charged inactivity fee.
Captrader has answered this in their FAQ section.

Captrader FAQ
Therefore, you will be charged inactivity fee of $1/month only if you fulfill both conditions:

1) Account balance is less than $1000    AND
2) No trading activity in that particular month.

This requirement is way more lenient than the similar requirement imposed by IB.
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Oh I see. Must fulfiled nboth criteria. I thought only one criteria for them to implement inactive fees.
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post Dec 3 2018, 09:40 AM

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i'd like to contribute my share to this awesome topic that i have successfully transferred funds from MYR to USD to Euro to IB's account in Germany via Instarem->TransferWise.

i tried transferring my USD in TW to IB's US account but failed due to TW not accepting Further Credit Payments https://transferwise.com/help/article/20768...credit-payments.

hope this helps others

cheers

This post has been edited by wt_vinci: Dec 3 2018, 09:40 AM

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