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post Nov 1 2014, 12:51 AM, updated 12y ago

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http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/31/its-20...lagship-device/

QUOTE(thelightside @ Oct 31 2014, 11:24 PM)
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/10/31/its-20...lagship-device/

Indeed a valid criticism... I must say samsung need to cut out the bloat...for u guys experiencing lag on note4 I highly suggest u disable all the bloatware and greenify only then will u feel the speed as I hav...I think if I haven't optimize my note4 no way I can get 52297 antutu score or a pleasant experience...this is wut samsung need to concentrate on cut out the bloat and  optimize note4 core function smile.gif
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It’s 2014, Samsung. Why does your software still lag, even on a flagship device?


It’s 2014. The market for smartphones has matured to a point where specs do not really matter. Instead, it’s the software on devices that decides what kind of experience users get and just how useful the device is in complementing their lives. Android has reached a point where even $100 devices run fast enough and do most of the things that a flagship device can do, so why is it that the software on Samsung smartphones is still so slow and laggy?

I’m not one to limit myself to devices from a single company. Ever since I lost my Galaxy Note 3 earlier this year, I’ve been on a rollercoaster ride of sorts, going through no less than three flagship smartphones from other companies. I started with the Sony Xperia Z1, followed it up with the HTC One M8, and finally settled on the OnePlus One for a month or so before buying the Galaxy Note 4 as soon as it launched in my country.

Using those devices from Sony, HTC, and OnePlus and then switching to the Galaxy Note 4 was an eye-opening experience. What I noticed on the Note 4 from the moment I started using it was the insane amount of lags, stutters, and waiting times for things to happen. The Galaxy Note 3 was a fast device, but it had a camera and gallery app that were utterly slow. Many have pointed out that the gallery and camera apps on their Samsung devices run absolutely fine, but I’m not sure those who say that have used smartphones from other manufacturers in the last year or so.

On the Note 4, things are worse. While the camera app is a bit faster, the gallery app is still painfully slow at loading images. But that’s not the worst part. The Note 4 even takes a second or two to wake up when I press the home or power button when the screen is off, often making me wonder if I pressed said button properly or not (S Voice is turned off and disabled, so that isn’t the reason for the delay.)

Once past the lockscreen, there are a few stutters and lags in general usage as well. For example, the recent apps menu takes up to two seconds to show up, and scrolling through the apps in the recent apps screen is very jittery. Then there’s the settings menu. Every time you open the settings menu, you can expect to be met with stutter when scrolling through it, though it becomes smooth after a few seconds.

Software optimization was never Samsung’s strong suit, and on the Galaxy Note 4 it’s far worse than what it was on the Galaxy Note 3. Sure, I understand the higher screen resolution puts more load on the processor and GPU, but maybe Samsung should have stayed on Full HD and instead focused on bringing its software up to the mark first? A flagship device, in 2014, should be extremely fast, fluid and lag-free, but it seems Samsung just doesn’t seem to care about how fast its software is, as long as it can cram a lot of features and functionality and parade them as bullet points for their marketing campaign.

In terms of functionality, the Note 4 is a killer device and the best phablet in the market today, but using it as my main device hasn’t given me the flagship feel that I got from even the year-old Xperia Z1, or the HTC One M8, which remained extremely fast and smooth even after six months of use. I have written before that Samsung needs to optimize TouchWiz if it intends to go after the low-end market, but if its flagship devices can’t match what the competition is now offering, I wonder if the budget market will see Samsung as a dominant player ever again.

It’s 2014, Samsung, and maybe its time you stopped running after mind-blowing hardware like a Quad HD display and instead focused on making your software as fast, smooth and jitter-free as it should be in this day and age. Apple does it, Google does it, even a small company like HTC did it (Sense 6 is the fastest manufacturer UI out there), and with the resources at your disposal, maybe you can too.

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post Nov 1 2014, 12:56 AM

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nobody said samsung didnt lag. lol.

samsung memang lag with touchpiss

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I'd say touchwiz sux.. see the running services of a note 4 will definitely shock u
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post Nov 1 2014, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(omaigad @ Nov 1 2014, 12:56 AM)
Xiaomi > all
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QUOTE(LanEvoX @ Nov 1 2014, 01:07 AM)
xiaomi > ALL!!!
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post Nov 1 2014, 01:10 AM

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Hahahahs this now u know sfeg aren't real brainless fag like ts whistling.gif anyway u really butthurt until everyday lurking at note4 tered lmoooooo
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post Nov 1 2014, 01:12 AM

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Anything which is not stock AOSP will lag. Why? Too much bloatware inside.

I usually install CM11 or PA on all my Android devices after warranty. Take my HTC One M7. With 2GB RAM and Snapdragon 600 processor, it is kinda slow with Sense UI. After CM11, woo... really can fly. Now, I'm using Paranoid Android 4.5 BETA 5 on it. Stable and smooth.

Next on my upgrade will be the Sony Xperia Tablet Z. Stock Sony UI really sucks! Slow and lagging.
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So if samseng lag and...


Does that mean ifeg lag even more lmaoooooo...
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post Nov 1 2014, 01:16 AM

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bila masa orang ckp x lag?

pfft

its using touchshit pasti lah lag tahap gaban

u wna a pure vanilla android with no lag, use a nexus la. or go use aosp on the samseng

don't jst use a shitty samseng touchpiss and claim android sucks.

especially those ifags guna skali a samseng, then complain eyerrrr got lagg.. pui pui android sark.

bodo!

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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 1 2014, 01:12 AM)
Anything which is not stock AOSP will lag. Why? Too much bloatware inside.

I usually install CM11 or PA on all my Android devices after warranty. Take my HTC One M7. With 2GB RAM and Snapdragon 600 processor, it is kinda slow with Sense UI. After CM11, woo... really can fly. Now, I'm using Paranoid Android 4.5 BETA 5 on it. Stable and smooth.

Next on my upgrade will be the Sony Xperia Tablet Z. Stock Sony UI really sucks! Slow and lagging.
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To ts retard only samseng lag 1...nexusfag konon tapi bodo macam ifeg kentut forgot note4 can get rid of bloatware with custom rom laugh.gif

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QUOTE(omaigad @ Nov 1 2014, 12:56 AM)
Xiaomi > all
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Hardware and price ratio: berry good
Software optimization: tahi.

Ayam use redmi 1s with 4.4.4 baru smooth
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QUOTE(thelightside @ Nov 1 2014, 01:16 AM)
To ts retard only samseng lag 1...nexusfag konon tapi bodo macam ifeg kentut forgot note4 can get rid of bloatware with custom roam laugh.gif
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How to install custom rom on note 4? O.o
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post Nov 1 2014, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Nov 1 2014, 01:20 AM)
How to install custom rom on note 4? O.o
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Go note4 tered wannam and sweet rom already out for malaysia note4 brows.gif

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High end Android phone can use Xperia.

Mid range and lower end can get Xiaomi

Samseng getting sammich. Those koreeans deserved it.
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QUOTE(thelightside @ Nov 1 2014, 01:21 AM)
Go note4 tered wannam and sweet rom already out for malaysia note4 brows.gif
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no trip knox?
if yes then maybe i consider note 4.
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ayam apple,oppo,nokia and xiaomifag oni
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Back in the 90s what was Samsung brand known?

It's as cheap and useless as those China branded stuffs. Quality was as cheap as dirt.
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post Nov 1 2014, 01:23 AM

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post Nov 1 2014, 01:28 AM

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For all the lag I wonder how come my note4 is....

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World top 20 whistling.gif laugh.gif
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Becos samsung dont design the software

Meanwhile apple design both hardware and software
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Antutu is not a real way of measuring daily performance. U can have a very high score but the stock UI still lags.
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that's what happen when os and hardware not optimize.
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 1 2014, 01:31 AM)
Antutu is not a real way of measuring daily performance. U can have a very high score but the stock UI still lags.
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Oh so now benchmark dun matter did u see the ipong vs note4 vid laugh.gif
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how many years ago this claim?
i admit my galaxy S3 is lag but since then from Note 3 and above they no lag anymore...
ifeg is always igay, ibend, irestart, iretard...
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 1 2014, 01:31 AM)
Antutu is not a real way of measuring daily performance. U can have a very high score but the stock UI still lags.
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Since retards ifeg always give excuse say antutu is shit lah this lah here is some butthurt material for u to swallow laugh.gif



Is this real world enuf laugh.gif whistling.gif
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Anyway samseng will be patching up the prob soon whistling.gif
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post Nov 1 2014, 01:43 AM

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They enjoy spending the whole year optimizing the phone
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Waiting for Lollipop which will blow away iOS 8 into the toilet. Worse upgrade ever for iOS devices. All my iOS devices not running at optimum level since then. Apps crashed often and WiFi lagging. Worse part, I can't downgrade back to iOS 7!
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QUOTE(acbc @ Nov 1 2014, 01:53 AM)
Waiting for Lollipop which will blow away iOS 8 into the toilet. Worse upgrade ever for iOS devices. All my iOS devices not running at optimum level since then. Apps crashed often and WiFi lagging. Worse part, I can't downgrade back to iOS 7!
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No no no that is impposibruuuuu jangan persoal ipong mana ada lag all smooth and never crash perfect tim cock gayness all roll into ipong laugh.gif

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QUOTE(wertty @ Nov 1 2014, 01:30 AM)
Becos samsung dont design the software

Meanwhile apple design both hardware and software
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Because other manufacturers (HTC, LG, Sony etc) designed Android yeah?
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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Nov 1 2014, 01:34 AM)
Would Xperia Z3 be a good buy?
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i say go for it. smooth no lag with insane battery life
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QUOTE(thelightside @ Nov 1 2014, 01:38 AM)
Anyway samseng will be patching up the prob soon whistling.gif
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Dejavu much? I had being hearing the same argument for over 4 years...
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post Nov 1 2014, 04:07 AM

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Note 4 lag? That article is true biase.

I don't have all mention issue. Note 4 is crazy fast compare with all previous release phone by Samsung.

I also owner of HTC ONE M8, I know how all those phone work.

All instant open in Note 4 and even 99% open faster than my friend iPhone 6 plus.

The only delay 1 to 2 seconds is the recent apps. That the only part got problem in entire note 4.

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Aiyo.
never ending talk about lag.

your PC laptop Win/Mac all lag also lah.

What's the fuss.


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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Nov 1 2014, 04:07 AM)
Note 4 lag?  That article is true biase.

I don't have all mention issue. Note 4 is crazy fast compare with all previous release phone by Samsung.

I also owner of HTC ONE M8,  I know how all those phone work.

All instant open in Note 4 and even 99% open faster than my friend iPhone 6 plus.

The only delay 1 to 2 seconds is the recent apps. That the only part got problem in entire note 4.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Nov 1 2014, 04:07 AM)
Note 4 lag?  That article is true biase.

I don't have all mention issue. Note 4 is crazy fast compare with all previous release phone by Samsung.

I also owner of HTC ONE M8,  I know how all those phone work.

All instant open in Note 4 and even 99% open faster than my friend iPhone 6 plus.

The only delay 1 to 2 seconds is the recent apps. That the only part got problem in entire note 4.
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Sfag nv say their phone not lag.

Only ifag always say their phone not lag.
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Android smartphones may lag a bit.....but still much more exciting than dull, overrated iPhone.

I literally yawned when I borrowed my friend's iPhone 5S
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QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Nov 1 2014, 07:00 AM)
Android smartphones may lag a bit.....but still much more exciting than dull, overrated iPhone.

I literally yawned when I borrowed my friend's iPhone 5S
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Samsung Gallery got too much useless feature.

Face tag, photo buddy and a lot of feature you never use.

Always install stock Gallery. laugh.gif
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tried n4 (singapore variant and Malaysia variant)

thr was no such lag... whistling.gif...

and what i can said .. this time Touchpisa are improving a lot ..laugh.gif well who wanna complaint, gtfo for Note seriss and buy Moto G,X or E... dun kbkp whistling.gif....

bodoh thread... whistling.gif
inb4 G3 → Mi
inb4 Nexus master race
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samsung mmg lag pasal banyak sgt sampah installed

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Samsung is an insult to google and android

Plz stop using android and use tizen if you think you are so smart to make android look like your own stupid ui

The other shitty UI is xiaomi

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QUOTE(LanEvoX @ Nov 1 2014, 01:07 AM)
xiaomi > ALL!!!
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Can tell me how to properly say 'xiaomi?'

Ziaoumi?
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Jhoume?
Jhoumi?
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Its all the bloatwares.. There should juz stick to stock android. My moto g runs smoother than my s4. Its ridiculous but true. Rm699 phone vs rm 1.8k phone..
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Nov 1 2014, 09:07 AM)
Its all the bloatwares.. There should juz stick to stock android.  My moto g runs smoother than my s4. Its ridiculous but true. Rm699 phone vs rm 1.8k phone..
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i believe the phone is good but the touchpiss, thats the problem there

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QUOTE(altimi @ Nov 1 2014, 09:11 AM)
if S4 i9505 just flash GPE rom...... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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I hope Samsung just go bankrupt and HTC to florish again and dominates the Android world.

HTC really makes good phones.
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actually no lag la,
my note 3 sikit lag when i dint close aps and open damn lot of shit.
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buys premium priced phone

deletes all the bloatware / custom rom it

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QUOTE(Elgore @ Nov 1 2014, 09:41 AM)
buys premium priced phone

deletes all the bloatware / custom rom it

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Sohai is like buying Ferrari and go install Lambo engine.

Go buy HTC ONE M8 lah if one premium lag free phone.
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Can tell me how to properly say 'xiaomi?'

Ziaoumi?
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Jhoume?
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Using S3 as personal phone since 2013, now lag like siput. And then company giving S3 phone for work purpose, lag also. Double killed. I would like to try different OS. I hope window phone doesn't lag. Kenot afford ipong though.
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all same la...my friends using iphone also complaint lag
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wtf is lag, I dont know wtf is this lag.... window fag here. whistling.gif
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Samsung gonna change their strategy and products range really.. Focus on UI pls.. Touchwiz need a reconstruction..
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QUOTE(Nickysnipe @ Nov 1 2014, 10:29 AM)
Samsung gonna change their strategy and products range really.. Focus on UI pls.. Touchwiz need a reconstruction..
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fat chance..... whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Nov 1 2014, 02:12 PM

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Lag to rest our eye.
Ifag jelly their eye get sore quickly to long period staring at super smooth screen.
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post Nov 1 2014, 02:15 PM

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saying android lags based on samsung's UI, is like saying Lamborghini slow while chaining it to a parade stage.
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post Nov 1 2014, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(WhatMan @ Nov 1 2014, 01:34 AM)
Would Xperia Z3 be a good buy?
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Current god phone man. Good battery life. Mine always last 2 days at least (Let say Sunday night I charge, I unpluged it from charger 7am Monday, it will last me until 8, 9pm Tuesday minimum). If less heavy usage, can even last longer.

UI smooth, no lag.
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post Nov 1 2014, 02:36 PM

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http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1790320
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post Nov 2 2014, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(jaQ-Ass @ Nov 1 2014, 10:09 AM)
Using S3 as personal phone since 2013, now lag like siput. And then company giving S3 phone for work purpose, lag also. Double killed. I would like to try different OS. I hope window phone doesn't lag. Kenot afford ipong though.
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S3 is how many years ago phone, that phone is lag and fail with 1GB RAM.
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post Nov 2 2014, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(jaQ-Ass @ Nov 1 2014, 10:09 AM)
Using S3 as personal phone since 2013, now lag like siput. And then company giving S3 phone for work purpose, lag also. Double killed. I would like to try different OS. I hope window phone doesn't lag. Kenot afford ipong though.
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windows pong no fun. Bought one for my mum, then i test it, no fun.
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post Nov 2 2014, 03:33 AM

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Asus Padfone S Master Race lipoting in.
SUSthelightside
post Nov 2 2014, 03:44 AM

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QUOTE(BangHardHard @ Nov 1 2014, 02:36 PM)
So altimi apa macam? Sampai sekarang no comment when ifeg lags whistling.gif bodo is bodo lah whistling.gif whistling.gif laugh.gif hypocrisy macam muka bodo ifeg jeh laugh.gif ...at least sfag face the fact while ifeg become feggit fag tim cocky gayfeg laugh.gif

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post Nov 2 2014, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(thelightside @ Nov 2 2014, 03:44 AM)
So altimi apa macam? Sampai sekarang no comment when ifeg lags whistling.gif bodo is bodo lah whistling.gif whistling.gif laugh.gif hypocrisy macam muka bodo ifeg jeh laugh.gif ...at least sfag face the fact while ifeg become feggit fag tim cocky gayfeg laugh.gif
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My master race nexus doesn't lag though.......brows.gif

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post Nov 2 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(altimi @ Nov 2 2014, 09:15 AM)
My master race nexus doesn't lag though.......brows.gif

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Does not matter ur metality = ifeg laugh.gif

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