deal wif him..

AMD Athlon proc (venice e6) @rm230




for RM230...i tot i got all packages..da box,receipt,hsf,reciept,manual n waranty certificate.coz oni 3 months.so i decided to deal wif him. @RM230.

before that he offer me.. his AMD (winchester 3000+)...2 years old..same price..coz hav good OC ability than venice.(izzit?) ... no waranty oso...so i said stick to da deal,never change da deal

this is what i get..
1. Sri comp plastic bag
2. proc n
3. HSF date (2004) version maybe this is (his winchester HSF)..

so where's the hell da box?waranty?receipt?coz i dun wanna refer to him anymore..if anything happen i just go to da shop..not him..i dun wan ur 1 week personal waranty..i'm talking for 2 years n 9 month waranty from manufacturer..

so he promise to give em..ASAP...oso give him 1 week coz dunno where he put it.

this guys still selling while ppl flaming him

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=318653&st=20

til now..no news almost two weeks..deal wif him in 4th week of august (forgot)

now i bought new proc from sempronic..RM220..all packages included..n hav to cancel buying MOMO stering coz of him.

his profile..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=64795

This post has been edited by ryugan: Sep 23 2006, 08:18 PM

sad....u deal wif a extreamly weird ppl....saw his every thread also feel weird

This post has been edited by iamsteven: Sep 12 2006, 01:34 PM

hmmm.... my posts in garage sale (particularly memory and drives)
have been deleted. coz, i think mods cleaned the whole section, and all those old topics all got deleted.

anwyays, same thing here, it was RAM for my case. he agreed to buy my RAM, after agreeing to COD and all that, last minute he said he will only pay RMXXX, he said take it or leave it.

i told him we made a deal, and he said, too bad.

he always offers at a higher price, and after agreement, he'll bring down the price to RM100 (for 512 of RAM a few months back)

so yeah... i can understand what he did to u.....
i know where's his college. he's staying there... hostel or around there.

too bad!!! atleast, thanks to let us know.......

BTW, did he mentioned everything include box,receipt, cert, manual etc b4? If yes, claim it...if not, hmmmm cant help lorrr

ya....he always post n offer those nonsence and ake u drop the price extreamely low....dun ever deal wif those guys like him

he made a deal wif ur ram?n then he bring down the price when CODing?

never did dat...but he did..
selling crap item oso n expensive...

for me AMD Athlon 3000+ venice e6 can get below rm180 if jus bare cpu or w/out waranty.or box..

selling RM230..if add rm30 can buy a new one...all in da box ..waranty n sevice guaranteed

rm230 from him...i pay rm 30- rm40 for Sri comp plastic bag,waranty? service?


where he live..which college?

n dats bad happen to me..he din show @da garage sales..but in my HP..when i ask 'bout da receipt..he said all packages included..so i jus CODing la

damn y i delete dat msg.

This post has been edited by ryugan: Sep 12 2006, 02:05 PM

no la.. he didn't bring down the price when COD, he brought down price the night before COD. all the trouble and effort, and he just blew it off like that.

and i got mad with him, coz it was his style of dealing, if u read all his previous offers. offer high high... then after that, he drops it low.

fattywai.... no explanation from u eh? guess not.

I dealt with him b4.I sold my mobo to him.MSI neo2 mobo.socket 939.He said he's from seremban if im not mistaken.But looks to me like a nice guy.but i do have problem with da deal.. last min he said he want to reduce da price.But i sms him back,i said to him,'we have agreed with rm180(i think),why must u lower da price at da last min?Plz have sum ethics when dealing"(Sumthing like dat).hehe

edit: deleted

This post has been edited by thetard: Sep 12 2006, 02:56 PM

i am commenting as third person not siding whichever side but based on facts.

First, have someone PMed this fattywai regarding this thread? So that he could come here and explain himself.

Second, it seems this guy is very unethical. I also hate people who does last minute reduce price. What he does is even worst, forcing seller to accept lower price with "take it or leave it" remark.

Third, this is addressed to ryugan. Please be informed that your processor must have the original HSF that comes together. Since you said you got another old HSF, then you are screwed. Without the correct matching HSF (with correct date and batch), you cannot RMA your processor. That means you paid RM230 to buy an item without warranty from manufacturer.

Well since so many ppl have already traded with him and confirmed his attitude, could we suggest put him in blacklist seller/buyer?

But then again not much ppl read the blacklisted thread....
This is different with the conman stuffs and not until the extend of banning his account, coz its undoubtly a type of marketing strategy (xia liu).
Hmm how about making a special tag only mod/admin can put on ppl that behaves like that?

no point doing that because they could easily register another new account. What I would suggest is maybe only letting people with certain amount of post allowed to go into trading section. Like those with at least 3 month old account and posted 100 posting.

This way, they could register all they want but they need to wait 3 month and post 100 post in order to start their con cycle. More work and hassle for them.

If i'm not mistaken, i've seen a lot of "fattywai" post for asking stupid prices everywhere...

He seems like he want to buy everything in here, lowyat.net...

Weird ehh?

mm..there are pro's and con's there..
i'm a newbie also..
i'm joining this community coz of the trading section but not active in posting..
seniorities does'nt mean they're more ethical so as newbie like this case..

i have to agree... hence dreadsoul, a better measuring tool would be the
SUCESSFUL TRADELIST! not the number of posts!

check out primer. that guy isn't a senior member (or is he now?? )
but he has raked in more orders than most senior members here!


fattywai doesn't buy everything, but specifically, everthing dealing with a PC. i think this guy building second rig, thrid, or fourth rig.
budget way.... bid low, and see who he can 'con'.

fattywai won't answer mind you. he took few days to answer my questions the last time despite being logged on countless times in that span of few days... i reckon he prolly went through the dictionary to form correct, coherent sentences to convey his message to me.

i wouldnt wanna deal with a person who goes online, pretends to ignore u for days when u're waiting for a reply. frustrates the heck out of me. imagine waiting to sell / buy something from him.

fattywai? i sensed him having weird dealing attitude. now this thread oredi confirmed it

his favourite quotes :

"take it or leave it"
"RM 50 from me" (while market price is RM 80-100)
"your price too high, PM me for ur best price" (while seller actually is selling around market price)

ahahahh! YES YES! that's his favourite quotes!
and now, he doesnt' want to reply...

this is exactly my point..even have a receipt...its useless...

thnx for enlighten me n other forumers

This post has been edited by ryugan: Sep 12 2006, 11:43 PM

ryugan, you've PMed him about this thread?

I saw someone posted this thread's link in one of this sales...

Aiyah.. cannot blame ppl for offering stupid prices.. I'm one of them... paiseh..

No harm in it ma... I offer low price if the seller wants to sell up to him, I sure will buy, if not then nvm la... Non essential items I can live without but sure would be nice to have.. haha ... but this time I think he really cannot lor..

If I agree to buy items at a price.. I will sure buy at that price

yes..PMed oledi..dunno he will answer/explain or not...

fattywai log in yesterday...
PMed n Linked to this thread

seems no respond from him...



what do u think guys.?

Ahh... at last! Complaining about this stupid Fatty...!! I've been waiting to this thread come. Actually this guy suxs. He want to buy everything in the Garage sales but never make a good deal. I've dealt with him for my proc, graphic cards and rams with sms. First he offer a very reasonable price but last minute he want to reduce and give a bullshit reason. Wasting my time & my prepaid! Gerammm lar..

Huh... I don't wanna talk much lar about this 'alien' but if u guys want to sell something, don't deal with this number 0176771921, this is his phone number.

Fatty, two words for you.....

fattywai, posting in threads asking about prices = increasing his post count to create false impression of his status.

Posts in Garage Sales are not counted..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=faq&article=3

Anyway....Its just been 2 days.....
After 2 week if he still doesnt come, i think his name will be listed in blacklist.

But then again...the blacklist is for conman only rite?
He didnt basically con ppl....just rude/stupid attitude only..

Oh wait...soli soli he did did something....
So lets just wait...

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Sep 14 2006, 05:07 PM

eh bro... no problem with offering low prices...
the thing is... he agreeed on a price. say RMXXX...... and hence, a buyer will then say RESERVED for fattywai.... and hence, proceeding to actuall dealing.

dealing, this guy CODs most of the time... right before the COD period... he calls/sms saying he wants the price to be LOWER. or else, no deal.

now, ain't that friggin' assanine?

This guy go around keep offering stupid prices for everything, seems like he's interested to get all of them, but i think not even one has been dealt b4

seems he refuse to answer this thread...
not gentlemen la this guy...

wahhhh i just deal with him.....instead of him asking higher price i ask for lower hahaha......too bad for you guys i hope thats lyn will be cleansed from this kinda a buyer/seller.

this is not 'bout da price @ all...this guys selling da stuff
3 month proc(venice) wif ..2004 HSF (his winchester proc hsf) ...my waranty can cover o not???n still waiting his answer..

he make a new treat now...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...0&#entry8489788

This post has been edited by evilme: Sep 18 2006, 12:58 PM

u dealt with him? u sold or u bought from him?
what did u guys trade?

Can we get somebody to suspend his account?
Im getting tired with this kind of jerks...If only i have the power....

Thunder...thunder...thunder....thundercats....hooooooooo

Fattywai attitude remind me the "VtecRock" the legendary flammer. Could be the same person..?????

nah..they're difrferent... rock doesn't offer things and backoff after that.

he like selling everything and bidding everything.

fattywai... don wan to respond... so, how now?

he just PMed me
he said wanna explain it

i just bid for the price and not yet comfirm to buy .

thats why i leave hp number to let guys asking about my stuff.

two words from you too.

GIVING THIS KIND OF phrase doesnt giving anything to me .
i have my freedom on bidding price and i dont think thats its break out the LYN rules. 1ST is bdding price then second its my own price. YOU have your own decision whether wanna have deal wirh me or not.

NOT ONLY JUST GIVING BAD WORDS.

i dont think i have much more times increase my post.

Actually do u understand what is called "bidding" ???
If u bid for an item an u wins it, u ought to take it at your bidded price..
Dont tell me just simply bang a price like RM1000 for an item worth of RM800 and then u expect ppl to bid higher than u?
And then obviously no ppl would bid higher than you and then u tell seller that your bid price is just "bid" price but instead u offer RM500 as your own price?

I wonder have u ever taken any IQ test and how much score u get?

Dont worry Garage Sales posts are not counted..
Damm i just knew it last week....should have post more rubbish/flame more

WHATS stupid/ ride attitude that you saying?

i definiately getting angry with your words.

give me your explaination on it.

read from da 1st post

explain 'bout my stuff 1st then others...i dun to hear 'bout ur problem wif others here..

wanna know oso y dun u respond earlier?

so u have time to list up ur excuse aaa?

This post has been edited by ryugan: Sep 18 2006, 05:23 PM

Somebody translate it to mandarin/cantonese pls..
My english is not good but then......

Can we settle this case?

Option 1 :-
Return the item and full refund

Option 2 :-
Uhm...no more option?

ya, my IQ test is not much good than you but i think whos the 1 post so many rubbish post here?
I only wanna settle with RYUGAN.

my internet connection too low.

i am online ta my Collegue.

now getting streamyx recently.

So you wanna return the processor to me?

i think its imposible. You used it for 1 weeks more and i cant refund the money since i paid for the stremayx fees aredy.

ANY QUESTIONS?

Im just trying to explain what is "bidding" and "buying" theory for u...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auction
Refer that website...i dont understand whats written there actually..too long

full refund its unfair for me.
So you can try thinks about toher solution.

tq.

Can we have the EXACT DATE he received the item and the EXACT DATE he found out the problem and EXACT DATE he posted here looking for u?

Received item on :-
Found out problem on :-
Dispute posted on :-
Seller reply on :-

U didnt reply PMs and visit here after so long, and u now saying he used it for ONE week?
If u come only 1 month from now, then u will claim he used it for ONE month lor?

Then.....The money he paid to u, u used it already wat? so whats wrong he "use" your proc for few days?

Btw read what bidding means

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Sep 18 2006, 05:34 PM

[quote=ryugan,Sep 18 2006, 06:20 PM]
read from da 1st post

explain 'bout my stuff 1st then others...i dun to hear 'bout ur problem wif others here..

wanna know oso y dun u respond earlier?

So RYUGAN, you wanna full refund to closed this case?

How about you think of other solution.

just for my cent.

loh i dun ask for full refund..
...xplain to me where's da original hsf...u switch wif ur winchester hsf rite..n u stated b4 this proc 3 months old(venice)...ur hsf (2004)
so i think da waranty void oledi...
i dunno

this is da best option for u..
1.give $$ for da waranty lost..wif this old HSF (its ur cal how much u wanna give me back)..
2.give me da exact HSF for this proc (hell..i'm too lazy/busy to see u)
3.refund (imposible)

This post has been edited by ryugan: Sep 18 2006, 05:44 PM

MIRAGED, you are at my blacklist unless you give me a good response.

dont wanna deal with people which trying to release tension due to unsucess sales.

NEVER......... NEVER........ NEVER.........

wahz..... too brilliant are you?

no response from me than you are going to showoff?

Bro..... BE mature a bit.

look at your sale pls.

weird?

i also weird with your words too.

NO SALES FROM ME?

tq.

[quote=WaCKy-Angel,Sep 18 2006, 06:33 PM]
Can we have the EXACT DATE he received the item and the EXACT DATE he found out the problem and EXACT DATE he posted here looking for u?

Received item on :-
Found out problem on :-
Dispute posted on :-
Seller reply on :-

U didnt reply PMs and visit here after so long, and u now saying he used it for ONE week?
If u come only 1 month from now, then u will claim he used it for ONE month lor?

HE SAID thats processor no problem at all onthat time and i give him 1 week for warranty .

Then.....The money he paid to u, u used it already wat? so whats wrong he "use" your proc for few days?

HE SAID thats processor no problem at all on that time and i give him 1 week for personal warranty .

THEN NOW HE WANNA REFUNDS?

JUST FOR MY CENT, THATS NOTHING WITH ME COZ I DONT HAVE MONEY RIGHT NOW.

dude how would you feel i won a bid on one of your items, and once
everything was cleared and ready to go i state a lower price and say
"take it or leave it". Pretty annoying isnt it? dont give me " its my freedom to
bid and break a deal once its settled" bullshit . U make a deal u have an obligation to fufill it. If u dont u cant really blame the forummers from opening a thread complaing bout ur conduct or posting crap in ur sales thread.

Its simple really, if u have no intention of buying an item then dont bid.

I think u misuderstood...
The proc has no problem...Just that the HSF date is different from what u stated.
As u stated its new, but the HSF date is 2004 and other forummer says u cant claim warranty if anything happens.

I guess u will next reply "u can send back to me if anything wrong" but thats what he/nobody will wants...

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Sep 18 2006, 06:02 PM

Received item on :- 4th week of august
Found out problem on :-mismatch proc n HSF(waranty void)
Dispute posted on :-12th september 2006
Seller reply on :-18th september 2006

hav to wait..when he said he will give me da receipt/waranty...give him 1 week plus oso

so i hav to post this thread seems no respond from him...


fattywai
i wanna know which option u want to take..
this is da best option for u..

1.give $$ for da waranty lost..wif this old HSF (its ur cal how much u wanna give me back)..
2.give me da exact HSF for this proc (hell..i'm too lazy/busy to see u)
3.refund (imposible)

This post has been edited by ryugan: Sep 18 2006, 06:05 PM

tq for your clear explaination.

I just wanna solve problem.

He is not Realising Tension just due to the STUPID so called DEAL with a Jerk like you .

He just comment on you , what makes you to reply to his post ?
and
Your post doesn't stated he state wrong statement , correct ?

All the Crap you telling is in the blacklist , this and that bla bla bla and nothing. Yes , i mean nothing related to what's in the statement that made by him.

Wake up , jerk.

i am wake up for you aready.

Whats my words is nothing related so yours and others is related?

now i only know whats is fake and reality.

I said that imposibble to full refund for it.

and asking him for other solution.

WANNA SOLVE IT IN A PEACE WAY.

no offence.

Come on , did i mention about the Refund ? * read twice if you can't understand.

wow.. this seller attitude...
i long lelong member...

if u bid sumthing at that price.. u have to pay at that price unless the seller willing to nego it after u won the item.
again.."nice" attitude...

now the deal is OVER.......

and i only can pay RYUGAN for Rm30 as most.

RYUGAN, if you accept my budget just have to reply in here.

I WANt A COMFIRM ANSWER FROM YOU.

DUN USE PM.

i am not the darkness ppl.

This post has been edited by fattywai: Sep 18 2006, 06:43 PM

ok deal wif him rm 30 ...

i accept dat amount..

so when u wanna give da money..?now?

It should be obvious by now that fattywei can't understand proper English. And no, he's not saying he's not Batman or Spawn. Can someone please explain to him in Chinese what the problem is and the reason why everyone is complaning about his bidding methods.

WaCKy-Angel, - Dont worry Garage Sales posts are not counted..
Damm i just knew it last week....should have post more rubbish/flame more

*Takes WaCKy-Angel's hand in his. Taps it with my palm* 'Bad boy.'

sms me now.

017-677-1921.

will face up on this week.

need to spend my time to do my assignment.

HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND.

THE OTHER PPL just wanna let you know i am not well in writing only and i understand whats you are saying. So dont embarass me with this kind of unkown english.

Just not much learn how to write in proper way.

i cant express using proper grammar of english.

darkness like something penakut lah.

maybe can include to categerios of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are evil.

Yo everyone.Though i posted earlier,juz wanna say dat,when u meet him,his not dat bad.i dunno but da way he talks personally and how he post in LYN is very different.He's quite a softspoken fellas.Maybe he's juz not very gud in writing?maybe da thread starter can meet him or call him?i dunt now.juz a suggestion.Though he asked for a reduce price,he still bought da stuff with da agreed price.N to tell u da truth,i've cod'ed with many ppl,and i think he's quite nice.

PS: dunt flame me bcoz of my comments.Hehe.Im not his closest fren.Juz met him twice.Sorry guys.. cool

like nezzy said, u have agreed on price on something, i put u on RESERVE. and then when about to sell to u , u say "I can only pay lower. take it or leave it!!!!"

yes yes... u can bid all u want... u can also say the price too much, and then say u wanna pull out... but then, once AGREED on a price, doon't push the price lower.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh aku lupa... budak nih tak tahu bahasa Inggeriss (eh... english spelt like that in bm ar?? )

aku cakap kalau u nak bid untuk barang, boleh. nak tarik diri, pun BOLEH! TETAPI, kalo dah bid untuk barang dan dah menang, jadi bidder tertinggi, dan penjual dah RESERVE untuk kau, kau jangan beritahu dia sebelum COD, kau tak boleh bayar RM120. hanya boleh bayar RM100. "TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT"

tu lah perangai tak sopan nih! tu lah yang kita tengah bengang dengan kau.
aku takde release tension. u check post aku semua... tengok SIAPA saya dah tipu/ buat dia naik angin.. TAKDE boss, TAKDE!!

you skranag jual CPU dan HSF, cakap lain, beri lain pulak?!! apalah budak ni! dah berapa lama kita tunnggu respons kau? sendiri lambat, skranng kau beritahu dia dah guna proc dan HSF untuk beberapa minggu tak boleh full refund.

the heck.... typing in bm is darn hard! so yeah.... blacklist me. no problem. u're the ONLY one blacklisting me.. makes me feel special (buat saya rasa istimewa- in case u need a dictionary). btw... once this thread is complete, and u don't fulfill requirements, u're probably going into the MAIN blacklist thread.... that time... hahaha... see la who trust u

and yes.. it's just my TWO CENTS ..... not just for my CENT

I believe so his english is not very good....
But bleh thats not what we're here for...




Ok so Seller agreed to give refund of RM30 and Buyer accepted.
I think its time close this thread and stop futher flaming/discussions rite?

Fattywai u should understand more about "bidding" meaning...
Although LYN was not designed for TRADING, and i think there's no written rules about bidding, but atleast use the universal un-written rules like that guy mentioned about trading in www.lelong.com
If u need any guidance, kindly PM me i will try to explain to u.

Pls be considerate for other sellers/buyers...How do u feel if other ppl do the same back to u?

Cheers

dun close 1st..he said wanna meet me this friday...close it when da refund is done..

Does anyone have his bank account number / name / phone number?

Just to make sure I dont have to deal with this sohai in the future.

Bleah.....Close it temporary to avoid more flaming/argueing...

Open it back if anything happens...U can open it back anytime.

Scroll down on leftside find Moderation Option -> Close

hav to open again..fattywai broke his promises
din come up or bank in da money....

This post has been edited by ryugan: Sep 23 2006, 10:15 AM

OOOhh deja vu!!!!

Last login TODAY 10.13AM

Have u called/sms him to remind him?
Im getting bored....lets put him in blacklist...

yest he jz offer his kingston 512mb ddr333 to me. lucky i need ddr400 1, so reject him. If i saw this thread, even very cheap i also dont 1 to trade with him.

i sms him oledi...y'trday.. n today 23 /9/2006

This post has been edited by ryugan: Sep 23 2006, 01:28 PM

Update: Fattywai added to blacklist.