It's not in the bread or the drink.

It's in the " I AM" who is Christ Jesus.

Because to take literal focus on the bread and the wine, then what will happen to those who can't eat bread or drink wine? They forfeit the Lord?

That Fast? Don't think so, read it again.

flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.

Unless you're practising Judaism, I don't see where in the scripture it says the ingredient has to be "proper"
As you said it yourself, it's not just about costing matter (it will definitely cost a bomb for huge mega churches to use wine), what if a church is opened in some deep ULU place where there's no way you can get unleavened ingredient or wine? Then what you're going to do?

You see the point or not? Deadlock is right, If you agree it's symbolic, then it is symbolic. We cannot be fickle minded to say it's symbolic and yet insist on proper sacrament practises. No point to make an issue out of a non issue matter.

Because one thing will lead to another. We will have Church Clothing Dress Code issues, then we will have what type of lady's make up allowed, excessive or not,
It will turn into Religion which Jesus came to remove which IMO is going back to square one.

And Yes I understand what is the proper ingredient, it's just bread without yeast, in fact Tosai also qualify if want to use. Radio Channel tak rosak la bro.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Jan 28 2015, 10:58 PM

This is the type of advise you give?

de you better stop teaching all the wrong things.

Get your foundations correct first before you try to correct others.

I vote De_luffy open V9.

go go go.

Was voting for de_luffy.

lolwut? New Sect of Christianity come out how?

Need Wisdom.

No I mean need wisdom if nominate de1929 as TS.

You guys go ahead. I'm zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz early tonight.

So tired, not enough sleep.

If you're going to open the new thread, better do it fast.

Then PM sophie to close V8.

De_luffy,

you go ahead and open V9, we have all nominated you,

don't worry about de1929, we'll just ignore him.