Okay guys I hope I'm not interrupting. But more emergency prayer.

Silver is now (not not, oops typo) on therapy and on medications for her depression. So on the road to recovery. Please pray that Satan don't drag her off.

There's another request I want to make. New person. My really good friend Mari. She's 17 going 18 I think?

To put into perspective, her family don't know how to communicate without yelling each other's head off. Sikit sikit stress sikit sikit jerit. They're super worried for their daughter's future because they're poor and all hope rides on the eldest. Which means more yelling!

Her grades are good. Top 10 consistently. So if slack a bit, the pressure starts rising.  We all know this story from our school days.

Yesterday, another argument happened. Until threaten to ground her, chase away the boyfriend ect. Already banned from going online at home. They want her to help around the house more and to concentrate on studies. Regardless of her happiness.

Call that 'being a better person'. So.... by their standards a good kid is do housework and study that's it. OTL. Not healthy at all.

I've already seen one person succumbing to this in a very bad way, I don't want her to suffer the same fate.

So pray for:

1. Parents to be less stressed. Need divine help to have them change their minds. Give her some space and let her handle things herself instead of trying to control her every move.
2. Mari to be less stressed. Because by being less stressed=handle conflicts better=less yelling= better grades= less drama.
3. Her 8 and 5 year old little sisters. They need a stable home to grow up in. Certainly not with so much tension. An of course for their mental and physical health to stay good
Thanks folks.

Thank you for the reminder. Yes, I shall remember the first time I attended my first CG. Like as if I'm attending a formal dinner invitation. 

But they serve refreshment right? 

Oh, I know that, of course worship is in Main Auditorium hall, I'm just testing your knowledge.

Correct, that's the final goal

Specifically pray for them to know God?

I really not sure. It was from the time she compare the pictures that she wanted to leave. Now she's telling me that she doesn't have chemistry with me. I just don't understand why and how this has happened?

Ok granted this is not CC. But i just want to ask christian bro to christian bro, what has happen to this world?

Initially everything was going well with her, I was in cloud nine. We went out a lot holding hands, whereever I went, she followed. She really cared a lot for me, we watsapp a lot. She bought me lots of gifts, when she was overseas, played the piano and recorded sent to me just for me. Then in just 1 week time, she changed, ignored me and refused to answer my calls and watsapp.

Things in life could really change. I just cannot comprehend why. When I asked her again, she said it was because there wasn't enough chemistry. It hit me like a wall of bricks.

Now I am wondering what I should do? I am in my late 30s, the enemy is attacking me and trying to make me more suspense. Do pray for me. This is a very long process, too long. I been rejected so many times, sigh.

I now find living in this world really quite a drag. From young till now, I always been wishing to do something the most basic. But it never gets fulfilled like finding the right girl that will take me cloud nine and getting married and having kids. Girls that I like, they don't like me. Girls that I don't like, like me. I am living in Limbo. I know, I am working against God's plan, I am not allowing him to move in my life. I have to admit I am growing impatient with God. I did everything, involve in ministries, bible study and cell group. I even took up a language, guitar lessons and social work to help the poor.

Recently one of my friend, he is a long serving full time church member, he also ran into relationship trouble. He broke off with the girlfriend and could not get along with the church administration. He quit from his cg leadership position and all church positions went to visit another church. I really feel gutted for him. Its just that just like his ex and my ex, I just finding christian girls the more materialistic than ever before. At times, I wonder when people go to church and listen to sermons, what do they absorb from there? You know what my ex gf told me, that I am a calculative person because I only suggested when marry we can share the expenses, but i pay most of it. She told me, love is give, give and give...so I have to pay 100%. I say ok, but moment she knew that I am not rich enough for her...i guess that was one of the reasons for break up.

I wish I suddenly hear that a comet is going to hit Earth in 5 years time, then the time, i will prepare myself before God, read the bible, fervently help in ministries, and save as many people as I can. So I can be distracted from the world's selfish rat race. Then I can watch all those rich people with rich beautiful model wives, scramble for their lives not knowing what is important for them. Then I will prepare to watch the comet come, as I prepare to face my maker, already prepared my treasures in heaven by helping people and glorfying God in the last days.

But no, I still live in a materialistic and sarcastic world. Everywhere I go, to shopping complexes, i watch temptation. TV, billboards, advertisement - all show beautiful people, never before I see an ugly person on TV or ads. Pretty couples clinging to one another, people driving luxury cars. I can't avoid all this, even as I helped the myanmar ministry in Pudu, I teach n watch all those poor children who don't have much but they have their families. Me? My parents are getting old and not going to be here for long. Then the most hated day of my life, Valentine's day is coming. When the day come, I have to listen to my colleagues make jokes about this, then flowers whisk pass me to the next cubicle where my female co workers sit. Then deep in my mind I imagine my ex gf being chase by other guys, enemy attacking me.

Ahhhh...life is just so drag. Anything I do now, I have to acknowledge, i find little joy. I go to office, dragging my feet, little hope in my heart. i try to seek God but felt as if he is far away. I feel I have disappointed God so much.

The whole night I could not sleep, I am under spiritual attack. The enemy knows that I covert for a life partner. And I failed. Sometimes, deep down my heart, I was thinking of looking for a non christian. Yes I did once dated a non christian but because of obedience, I did not made it pass relationship level. With a non christian there are no barriers. You can talk to her a range of issues and she wouldn't mind seeing your parents right away. With a christian, this one cannot, that one cannot. Ahhh so frustrating. I really feel like sitting for Cambridge level examiniation when I am in a relationship with a christian. And yet every mistake I make, I am cut off.

Aiyoh i don't have time machine la. It is really hard to for me to meet people. Only recently i met her.

I was in my late 20s..when i had my 1st break up...i went into a mental breakdown. I moved jobs often...after that 5 years only i recovered.

i been searching hard for the past 4 years, i still fail.

Isaiah 62:5 (NIV)"As a young man marries a young woman, so will your Builder marry you; as a bridegroom rejoices over his bride, so will your God rejoice over you.

I feel like sharing this outside of Lowyat

Thats why Paul say being single is good because one is not distracted by commitments to wife and family. But he did also say if you love a woman then marry her. UW bro, I don't think there is any other way, if one wants relationship to be 100% focused on God. Why? Because if one is in a relationship, he has to devote time to his partner or else she feels neglected.

Its true God will never hurt you, but some people ask why God allowed it to happen? Of course, all the death, pain and suffering wouldn't matter once we finish the race and be with God. The reality is, when tragedy happens to us, its really painful.

I not sure about her, but i notice some weaknesses in her that she may have problems in the future. Still, i am not sure if she is able to handle marriage stuff. Just maybe its because she not have chemistry for me, thats why she not working at it. I really dunno.

But I guess one way of making me miss her less, is to think of all her weaknesses, so i can appreciate if next time married sure got problem perhaps this is one way to forget her. I am trying my best to think of ways and moving on.

Some friends are recomending me to some prospective girls, please pray for me for someone who is attractive to me, a compatible partner, got lots of chemistry and is a god fearing woman.

I suppose the only way to learn and better my scavenging skills is to experience failure. Yes I thought she was the one, as she was agreeable and for the past 12 months she has been great and supportive. I didn't see it coming. I was caught offguard. Now the enemy comes to attack me.

Pls do pray that i will meet someone better and there be chemistry between us Bro UW. Thks.

Yeah, I think they are. My previous relationships were with non Christians. I was trying to court this girl in my church but it didn't work out even though we went out a few times even brought her to a romantic place nearby my house. Perhaps she's not interested in a relationship now or me. I know this isn't CC.

Apart from my sappy story, anyone went for Planetshakers earlier? tinarhian unknown warrior 

I missed it due to cg.

Uw, have you imagined the rapture day? What should we prepare for that time? Bible ahows we live in poverty in raptures day.

In the name of JESUS, i pray that GOD will deal you and break you... AMEN !

enjoy your reward...

Its very difficult to be balance when you are in a relationship. Thats why Paul suggest not to be in if you want to enjoy full relationship with God. Women are very complicated and unpredictable beings. Most christian men want to reason things logically through their brain power, so they always get it wrong with their own women most of the time. Even my cg leader, who is a respected businessman with 4 kids, almost underwent counselling and a potential divorce because of arguments with his wife, another devoted christian.

UW, i am not sure if you are married or single but if you have been in one, perhaps you can understand what I mean. No woman is without complication, they are always difficult to their men. We will swing out of balance for sure, important thing is know how to swing back, but the problem is, I don't know how to swing back. I struggle with this. I used to see sunny and dark skies, these days, even on a sunny day, I feel dark because I feel heart broken. In any relationship, one opens his heart to the girl, if its broken, one will feel the pain. Even Jesus felt the pain of rejection, when Peter denied him 3 times and ran away on the day he needed Peter the most. When the cock crow the 3rd time, Jesus turned his head and looked at Peter. Bible didn't say exactly how Jesus felt but I believed Jesus felt the pain. I have to admit, I struggle to response how Jesus responded when he was rejected. I struggle with this sin.

I texted to her and apologised to her. Her reply was that she struggled with my insecurities. She is very stressed up overseas and can't reply me on time. So my big fault because I told her if there is another guy also talking to her. So she felt the relationship has no trust and stress with me. Part of it also my fault. These are the lessons I need to learn to mature.

Other than that, she got a liking for me but the feelings are not strong enough, she's not confident the relationship would work. She doesn't want me fly over there to visit her, because she is afraid I may waste my money to visit her but I am taking my chances. I tell you, 100% of the time, you need to fight for the relationship or else it won't work. Its a real challenge for a christian to commit to other things and struggle to put God in center. Yes I wasn't able to strike chemistry partly because she is quite quiet and reserve personality. She doesn't open up to people very easily. Coupled with her struggles with her demanding boss at her newly promoted transfer job overseas. I felt anyhow, any other person would have struggled to produce chemistry with her because she's so quiet. But I got feelings for her, I think too long to write here.

Thanks for your prayer.

The thing is, christian girls can be quite emo, I can assure you of that. I have had two ex christian girlfriends.

Yeah I am talking about that verse. Yes but some marriages can be quite challenging. I have had two christian friends who underwent divorce. I am not saying you can't have a fulfilling relationship with God, but with marriage and kids, its going to be more challenging.

Bro, pls do pray
1- that whether it be good or bad that I can patch up with her, that I can see God's bigger plans for me
2- If I can patch up with her, pray she don't give unreasonable demands, and I don't behave insecure and pushy for faster replies
3- Pray that God grant me more exciting life ahead. I am feeling bored and heart sinking. I want to be surprised by life.
4- Pray if my reconciling efforts to patch up with ex doesn't work, God will help show me more nice christian girls that I can feel attracted to
5- Pray that I put God in center, continue to serve and be blessing to everybody

I too depress to go to that church. Anyways, awkward to sit alone at that church. I have avoided going to sunday service, because everytime i go there to worship, sit alone...i see all the couples hugging each other and families hugging the babies and all, make me feels lonely.

sorry lah like that... i don't abide to context... same like what i told UW... context is not king... GOD is... and then the word of GOD is where i based my faith...

JESUS is the king of the context. That's what i believe... so HIS WORD will overruled any context as necessary for HIS kingdom to be established.

again, ppl like me are not alone... soon or latter the peer pressure will win against whatever CONTEXT everybody put on top of GOD's word

why peer pressure ? cuz the strong one wins... it's the basic law after all...

if CHRIST abide to context then i lost lahh... i gave up and will learn from you all
if CHRIST do anything HE likes, then i win lah... then everybody just have to understand CHRIST the way i think...

we'll see lah in near future... JESUS is KING of kings.

sometimes smart people always gives problem instead of solutions. exactly like this post... this only produce confusion right ?

put these 2 simple rules:

GOD is king,.
HE can say anything he wants.

fine.. suit your self... again the strong one wins... it's not my law, it's just how it works in this world.

There is a hope for christian to be strong is not to be lawyers / teachers ... but to have faith...

bring it on teacher / lawyer.. see who is strong...

aren't we all tired our Christianity does not work as expected ? look at kron_ka...

GOD's in control. why worry too much.

Why don't you give thanks and pray like this: I thank GOD there is guy that think GOD is able to say anything GOD wants.

don't pattern GOD's word.

GOD reserves right to pick up which verses HE would like to established HIS kingdom in his earth.

about bill wilson case: there is a new bible verse for you teachers: I am that I am... (I is JESUS okay) who are you to contain ME (ME is JESUS okay) ?