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post Jan 12 2015, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 12 2015, 11:09 PM)
I guess you can't argue with God. God will seek vengeance for you...from Romans or something.

I just wish I can kick somebody nuts or something...
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Oh that is talking about people doing you wrong. Vengeance belongs to God, leave that to the Father to deal with such people. (Romans 12:19)

I'm talking about one of the key secret, not many Christian know or allow it to happen.

In our Life, the battle belongs to our Lord.

2 Chronicles 20:15 (KJV) - .....Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's.


hmmm maybe another devotion on this.
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post Jan 13 2015, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 13 2015, 02:07 AM)
I'm feeling quite discouraged that my firend is still attempting to overdose herself. I understand that it takes time and I can't let emotions get in the way.

Still really sad to see sad.gif
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This opportunity to spend time grieving with Jesus. smile.gif

Pour it all out.
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post Jan 13 2015, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 13 2015, 02:44 AM)
Domo arigato for the encouragement
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This is my encouragement song, very anointed & uplighting and very very powerful worship song IMO!


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post Jan 13 2015, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 13 2015, 06:19 PM)
thanks
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They are cults. Deviated and form their own religion. They're not real Christianity.
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post Jan 14 2015, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 13 2015, 11:56 PM)
nope just wanna ask 2 different questions lei, hope anyone can answer
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Non Virgin can marry in church provided she has accepted the Lord Jesus Christ and (depending on Churches), they have to be member of that Church.
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post Jan 14 2015, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 13 2015, 11:04 PM)
We don't live in a perfect world, whereby both partners are virgins.

Just like what the Bible teach, salvation and forgiveness are given to us by grace.

Ephesians 2:8-9

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.


2 Corinthians 5:17

17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

Ephesians 2:1–5


2 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience 3 among whom we all once lived in othe passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved.

A man who is seeking to be the man God wants him to be will be able to help his wife be the woman God desires her to be and, despite their pasts, they will be able to build their marriage into a God-honoring union that delights them both.

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That's why I'm in Love with God, he's the God of 2nd chances. flex.gif
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post Jan 14 2015, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 14 2015, 09:12 AM)
I'm sorry but, unless it's just me, I really think leonhart88 is merely trolling, instead of seeking actual answers to his questions. Several answers have been given to him to his previous questions, and I can't help to shake off the feeling that he was being apathetic towards the answers that were given to him.
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Have a feeling it's because of his GF, that got him started, (his curiosity) about Christianity.

I think he has not really pursue seriously enough to accept the answers. Got the feeling He's also unsure ...... hmm.gif
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post Jan 14 2015, 11:22 AM

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post Jan 14 2015, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 14 2015, 12:02 PM)
My gf also told me same. Jesus is very high standard coz of that only few can go heaven.
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That is not true.

Jesus made it easy for everyone to enter Heaven.

We are the one trying to nullify God's work with tradition and religion and the hypocrisy of self righteousness by quoting God's word out of context.

I will fight* this till the day I pass on against Legalistic and Pharisaical teachings that goes against the Grace of God.

*Not talking about you. tongue.gif

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post Jan 14 2015, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(amazingwave @ Jan 14 2015, 01:16 PM)
Hello LYN Christian Fellowship. Glad to see this fellowship here.

Just wanna share our new song! Its a fresh song in Rungus Language.



English translation:

Your Way (Ralan Nu)
No one can compares of Your great love,
You’ve died for me, You came down to save me
No one can compares of Your great heart,
You gave for me, every air You breath

And you shed Your blood for me, I was lost and now I’m free
Make me wholly understand You, when you walk the road for me

You are the Lord God almighty
In every path you are guiding me
Teach me of your way and as You go before me
Open my eyes so I can see
The beauty of Your Way

Be blessed everyone  smile.gif
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Welcome Bro,

Northern Sabahan?
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post Jan 14 2015, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(yaokb @ Jan 14 2015, 03:15 PM)
Your gf is misquoting Jesus in Matt 7:13-14

Enter through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and spacious and broad is the way that leads away to destruction, and many are those who are entering through it. But the gate is narrow (contracted by pressure) and the way is straitened and compressed that leads away to life, and few are those who find it. [Deut. 30:19; Jer. 21:8.] (‭Matthew‬ ‭7‬:‭13-14‬ AMP)

The correct statement should be "few WILL make it to heaven."

Salvation is for all, Grace is free but not cheap.

Remember the parables of the merchant and the pearl of great price, and the treasure in the field?

Each parable describes the kind of sacrifice made to acquire the pearl or treasure.

I am not talking about having to follow a set of rules and regulations.
I am talking about having a real relationship with God.

We were fallen people and though we are new creations in Christ (2 Cor 5:17) we are constantly refined from glory to glory (2 Cor 3:18)

Sadly it is this refining process that many cannot take and they opt out, whether knowingly or unknowingly.

Some openly leaving, others staying but.....
Why am I replying to this?

There are many in danger of mistaking Grace as a passport to living a self centered life.

Am I saying we must be ascetics?
No, but I am saying that every Christian knows what God is dealing with in their own life and it is to their own benefit that they cooperate with God.
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How do you know only a few will make it to Heaven?
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post Jan 14 2015, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(yaokb @ Jan 14 2015, 04:52 PM)
I don't,
I just know Jesus says.
But the gate is narrow and the way is straitened and compressed that leads away to life, and few are those who find it

Maybe i am mistaken to equate "life" with "heaven" hmm.gif
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Now you're thinking. icon_idea.gif

Actually if you re-read and study what the Bible says about Grace, it's the only antidote and solution that will bring people out of self centredness.

We may think it sounds weak but God is divine, He uses weak things to confound the wise.

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post Jan 14 2015, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jan 14 2015, 07:30 PM)
Are you making a case that all go to heaven?
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Actually I think He's making a case that it's hard but not impossible to go to Heaven which is one xtreme end, not the complete truth.


I think I need to expound a bit on this tonight.


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post Jan 14 2015, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jan 14 2015, 07:55 PM)
And he is disagreeing with yaokb on?
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I think it's just confusion between words, both of them are actually agreeing the same thing.

1. Few can go to Heaven and
2. Few can enter Heaven.



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post Jan 14 2015, 10:02 PM

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Bible Devotions with UW

Be secure in Christ

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Ephesians 1:7 (NIV) IN HIMwe have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace
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Hebrews 6:19 (NIV) We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain,


Dear Friends,

I would like to expound on 2 scripture verses to sate your spiritual appetite.

The first one is Ephesian 1:7 where is says In Him, we we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace.

I want you to look and focus on the word In Him. In Christ we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins!.
God wants you to know, that the security of your Salvation is IN HIM. In Christ. So keep your Faith, your eyes, Your Focus, YOUR EVERYTHING IN HIM.

IF and when you fail in your spiritual life or your walk with God, Keep looking IN HIM! In Who? Your Failures? Your Disobedience? In What you have said or done wrong?
No! Look and Focus IN HIM! IN CHRIST. Why? Because when you look IN CHRIST you have have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace!

THEN I want you to look at Hebrews 6:19: (NIV) - We have this hope as an anchor for the soul, firm and secure. It enters the inner sanctuary behind the curtain.
Look and focus on the word firm and secure.

When you combine these 2 verses, you will realize God wants you to know ; In CHRIST (IN HIM) you are firm and secure.
BUT UW, How can I be secure? You don't understand, I failed at times in my walk with God. I sin at times, I look at pornography at time, I look in lust at times.

Here is where your problem lies.
God wants you to look IN HIM but you're looking at yourself. Bingo!

This is where the devil got you. Satan wants you to focus your Salvation IN YOU(yourself) rather than IN HIM(Christ)
Do you know why? When you're so focus on what you do or what you say as the condition. You are done before the day is finish. We are all imperfect beings. Satan knows that. God knows that.

God says according to the Bible: IN HIM (CHRIST). Satan is Anti God and will reverse whatever God wants to establish and will deceive by saying LOOK IN YOURSELF, whether you have repented enough, obeyed enough, be Holy enough.

Friends. This is the divine truth. There is no mixture. There is no such thing, as looking and trusting in Jesus, at the same time, being confident of your act of obedience together with Christ that gives you the ticket to Salvation.

There is No Such thing. The Bible says in Romans 11:6 (NIV) - And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace. God is very serious on this. Even Jesus said the wineskin will burst.

It's your choice really. You can either trust in the Bible, the word of God, to look to Jesus as your Saviour or you can trust in yourself, in what you do, that you have acted righteously, have walk correctly and talk correctly. Choose this day, who you are secure in.

I'll leave you with one final verse for you to decide and ponder. Colossians 3:3.

God Bless.

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post Jan 15 2015, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 14 2015, 11:23 PM)
Personally, I think Grace Teaching is somewhat breaking God's heart..

The idea of God died and cleanses us of our past, present, and future sins..
:S Even if we sin after accepting the Lord, we don't need to repent, as Jesus forgave us on the cross..

I disagree, what do you guys say?
If like that, everyone just say sinner's prayer, continue sinning, go hallelujah..
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 14 2015, 11:55 PM)
i also don't agree. that's like moslem fasting then forgiven then make mistakes again repeat every year. allahuakbar!
past is ok but present and future you must devoted and as hard as possible not condemn to sins. yes we make mistakes but not on purpose.
I believe many people who attend church sex before marriage, using drugs, etc. even in church are very dangerous environment to young people lei.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jan 15 2015, 12:01 AM)
Yeah sinner's prayer is not enough
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 12:06 AM)
I think only few will go heaven because christian only half of population. Not all christian can go to heaven. even my belgian colleague said that big church in belgium on sunday maybe only 50-100 people go to church. 90% of them are infants. Most Belgium are christian in identity but not spirit.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 15 2015, 12:08 AM)
simple, if you love Jesus, you will not do sex before marriage although there are many temptations.
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Ha the greatest misunderstanding.

Those under Grace can sin as they want. It means you don't really understand how powerful Grace is.

What does Titus 2:11-12 (NIV) says?


11 For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. 12 It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, [/u]

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post Jan 15 2015, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 15 2015, 08:50 AM)
YEah, I know, If you really had met God.. You won't sin on purpose.. Temptation will flee from you..

But what i mean is like Preachers who preach on God forgiving our future sins..
They are like giving a free pass for new believers to sin..
whistling.gif  whistling.gif  they shouldnt preach about the grace, when people are just a new believer.. 
I am sure, many christian sin on purpose, and say God has forgiven me..  It's ok to sin..
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These are the same accusation level at the apostle Paul when He preached Grace.

Romans 6:15 (NIV)
What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means!

As what you accuse me, happened to Apostle Paul also.




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post Jan 15 2015, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 15 2015, 09:09 AM)
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It means that many people don't really understand what He preached. Paul was a very strong preacher of God's grace.

Titus 2:11-12 explains that Grace is the only antidote that will bring people out of their sin.

and this coincide with


Romans 6:14 (NIV) - For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.

You are to repent yes but you don't have the strength to repent. Grace will give you that opportunity.
Titus and Romans was written by apostle Paul under the inspiration of the Holy spirit, expounding on God's Grace.

It's like this.

If you put yourself under Law: I must not do this, I must not do that, the design of God's Law will bind you. You will be powerless and be subjected to the dominion of Sin.
That is what Romans 6:14 says. Sin shall not be your master under Grace. This means that the flipside is also true. Sin shall be your master under Law.
Read it again.

Put yourself under Grace, Sin loses it's power over you.
That is what Romans 6:14 means when it says (ESV) For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.
The overcoming power to dethrone sin is Grace.

Then you may ask me but UW, how can that be? I'm very sinful in nature.
My Answer to you would be: Yes you are right. So the way out of this, is to look away from yourself (must not do this, must not do that) and focus on Christ (grace)
That is what my devotion is all about in post #1882.

Do you know that Grace is not a subject but the person of Jesus Christ?

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post Jan 15 2015, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Jan 15 2015, 10:30 AM)
It's been quite some time that I didn't go to the church. Feel bad at times...laugh.gif
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post Jan 15 2015, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 15 2015, 12:12 PM)
for me depends on many things.
yes exactly...

Bill wilson from metro world child bribes authority in african country, to save the child (baby) so the child can have proper medical treatment in US soil.

so for me, i use GOD's grace to do 2 things:
1. invest in people live
2. win soul for Christ.

And i don't care about moral law (unless a police threathen me to jail that's different story lahh... ) as long as i have GOD's grace, i will 2 things above.
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You don't care but God cares.

The purpose of the Grace of God is to lead you out of Sin, not cause you to remain in it.

No doubt our acts doesn't earn us any Salvation but that doesn't mean we are not to set our mind on Holy Living.
Because that is how we're going to live in God's kingdom anyway. If that is our goal in life, why contradict what God has asked us to do?

What you're suggesting so far is not what Jesus teaches in the Bible.

Because acceptance of a wrong act can lead to another.
Soon you will lose sight of what is wrong or right. It will become blur.

You will be living a semi destructive or completely defeated life on earth.
Ask yourself why you lack the Faith to trust in God completely. That will give you an idea.

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