may i know the time and dates?

I personally welcome you to ask in this thread. Like i said, placeboo effects is GOD's grace.

hi all, i know this is a sin, but i cant help feeling this way.

this is probably not the right place to post, but i need to get this off my chest. i dont think im a bad guy n when im in my right of mind i would never think of harming or wishing ill towards others. in fact if and when some misunderstanding or whatever comes up that causes a breakdown in relationship between someone n me, im usually the first to concede and apologize even when the other side is mainly to blame.

but every once in a while ppl deliberately harm me in some way and i lose hope in humanity n become cynical. on the surface i appear normal n unfazed, but deep down i want nothing more than to inflict intense agony upon them and anyone they care about. i wish for bad things to happen to them and even imagine scenarios where they are in great need and i'm the only whos capable of helping, but i dont. instead i just stand there watching, smirking as they slowly drain away..

i know many others probably feel or have felt this way as well; its probably human nature, but no one seems to want to talk about it seriously. i know im sinning, but i cant help but feel the way i do... i start asking myself things like why God doesnt do anything, why he prefers to play the role of the silent observer when things are going to poop, why he doesnt just zap these ppl into oblivion because i know i definitely would and the world would be a better place.

the bible says to forgive, but i find that i have a hard time forgiving these ppl. especially when its something big. sure on the surface ill normalize relations and be friendly, but deep down i still wish them ill. sometimes its not just the actions, its the way they did it, the look in their eye when they did it. their eyes, it conveyed the message like they knew what there were doing was wrong n the pain they would cause, but no sht was given.

then im left mentally hurt while they walk away and forget about the whole thing only come back sometime in the future with the intention of reconciling as if nothing happened or it was something very minor to be swept under the rug and wish for things to go back to the way they were? in these times, i cant help but feel that they are doing this because it is in their advantage to do so and as a result i hate them even more. like theyve taken out massive debt, spent it all, defaulted and a couple years later go back as if nothing happened. but i digressed and having ranted long enough, will stop here.

ok noted. i give him a chance... people change right ?

ok uw noted. I understand your concern, but give me room as well.

What i assumed, is he was betrayed by the concept of GOD's presence. What am i talking about ?

When i went to healing movement in calvary chappel few months ago, i feel the GOD's presence. That's a blessing for me but for some people is manipulative by Worship team.

This concept must be straighten.

We both agree that GOD's presence is the product of Worship team sacrifice and GOD's favor.

That's why i explain to simpletraveler that placeboo effects (my term is GOD's presence) is... GOD's grace.

He did mention about prayer. worship team job is to worship in public = to pray in public. posted below

You and me, church goers understand what is worship team.

For some people, you need to understand that worship team / prayer, resembles sometimes like tari kecak in bali, like picture below:

i don't see simpletraveler attacking christian value after i convinced him my point of view.

I welcome him in this forum.

If he act improperly,
If he attack Christian value,
If he messed up this forum

if..if..if..if..

We both know what happen to mr zul don't we ? ... GOD can take care this forum.

relax brother

I will love simpletraveler and i will accept simpletraveler, with / without your approval.

whatever happen in the past i acknowledge. I am giving him a new chance.

as long as GOD's grace with me, my decision stands.

hmm... that's the problem lah... who is everyone ? all the losers ? sure they will tell winner are prideful.

you: resign ur job cuz your peer pressure you.
"somebody": cannot resolve unbeliever BF.
tina: don't have cell group and communication problem with leader, cannot bring fren to current church.
UW: cannot forgive simpletraveler.
de1929: cannot write english properly, but manage to overcome a lot of problems

from angle A: i oso write myself prideful:
from angle B: i bring glory to GOD. so i called it testimony.

hey bro... open eyes lah sikit... out of the box lahh... help me sikit2x... help me so everybody can see from angle B

May I ask, why is it that we still have to thank the lord even if he didn't answer out prayers?

i also wrote myself in the list maaa.... check my original Post #1402 still not edited... only mindset lah brother...

i see myself as a losers,
i see myself as a winner...

only mindset brother.. only mindset...

I would appreciate if you want to help me clean my reputation here.
Demonstrate your willingness and I will pray and intercede for you.
My GOD, Jesus Christ that died in the Cross (and raise on 3rd day), will reward you richly.

How to differentiate between pride and miscommunication ?

The the nature of the forum (+ my english writing skill) ?

Forum don't have tonal voice to express warmth and gesture. Writing English, and sms and forum posting easily mis communicated
Ask HS maa... ? HS told me to ask help from ngai... give ngai a chance to invest in my life. Ok lah obey...

if i express testimonial and people perceived as pride, it's their mindset has problem.
tell me when you argue with general fahmy / Mr Jul about speaking in tongue. may i say i copy u ?
still have flesh maaa... ok lah my excuse... also a message of hope so everybody can give testimonial regardless how many flesh you have
Your definition is not accepted. i defined pride as in Post #1397
My principal works. Mr Zul no more annoying us. It's a breakthrough by GOD's grace.

Who cares about your bible knowledge if it's powerless ? People needs solutions, not knowledge

One more thing to add here do share your views on christianity but not forcing it on others.

Imagine this, you already own TV A just bought it recently less than 6 months then one you go shopping around in the mall salesman keep pestering you to buy his new TV product which TV B, the TV spec is not much difference from your current TV just added a few features only

My question now is would you be happy if you were in that situation? Put yourself in other shoe before trying to force other on your ideology

Satan fell cuz he didn't gave glory to GOD. Satan stole it.

How many times i told everybody it's GOD's grace ? ok lah... i gave glory to GOD... satisfy ?
Why you ignore i wrote breakthrough by GOD's grace ? aiyoo... this is not fair lah UW... you made ppl think i steal GOD's glory. kindly note Post #1409 still not edited.

I don't want to be GOD.

I want to bring testimonial about GOD's grace.

It's obvious that you define pride as something including bragging about GOD's goodness.
Then all of you, UW, ngai, tina, luffy, sophie, and counsel of friends, have problem with your mindset right ?

you think i am prideful.
i think i bring testimony, a testimony that bring glory to GOD.

It's obvious that you define pride as something including bragging about GOD's goodness.

whatever.... still powerless....