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post Jan 27 2015, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 27 2015, 10:41 AM)
Thks. I must choose Godly thoughts ! I pray that when the enemy try to weaken me with sentimental thoughts, I will cast it away in the name of Jesus. I pray I will not be negative and be more open to God's bigger plans for me, soon he will reveal his rarity choice to me.
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Amen. Make the choice and then just lean on Him.
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post Jan 27 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 26 2015, 11:02 PM)
So the Israeli ate manna for forty years? Wow. That's a lot of manna.

Ok, I have read the Quail from Heaven, so is it somehow related to Revelation 2:17?
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That a lot of manna tongue.gif

You are what you eat. Experientially, according to the picture in the book of Exodus, the children of Israel were destined to have a heavenly living. However, when they came out of Egypt, they brought Egyptian food with them. In typology, Egypt typified the world. Like them, we have an "Egyptian diet", a taste for the world.

During the first few weeks of their travels, they ate this Egyptian food. But when the supply of Egyptian food was exhausted, the people were troubled and began to murmur and complain. Although the shortage of food was a problem to the people, it was a cause of joy to God, for it gave Him an excellent opportunity to change the living of His people. God’s intention was to change their living from an Egyptian living to a heavenly living. God did not want merely to adjust, change, or regulate the people outwardly. He wanted to change them organically by changing their diet. When the children of Israel were in Egypt, they had many different things to eat, all elements of the Egyptian diet. However, God wanted to change their diet from many items to just one item, and that item was the manna which came from heaven.

Manna is a type of Christ. If we are honest, we will admit that just as the children of Israel were bored of eating manna, we have sometimes become bored of eating Christ as our daily food. sweat.gif
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post Jan 27 2015, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 21 2015, 08:46 AM)
He's right you know? You are really talking nonsense.

You don't know where you stand.

One minute U say don't follow the Bible, then you quote the Bible.
One minute don't study Christianity, then you ask people to Follow Jesus.
Then you go and suggest nonsense, only NIV is right.

Don't you know they are all in Christianity?

If I can say this: You are very confuse & flip flop.
Stubborn, refuse to admit wrong, refuse to learn because you're too proud of yourself.
You think Everyone here is a loser, You claim you're the only winner......very sad.
If you don't know then don't simply suggest anything you don't know.
Don't teach the wrong thing.
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This is a good sample / issues of being a Christian.

UW said that I say one minute A, one minute B, one minute C. I believe it's correct. You are not to digest all my writings directly, you have to ask HS, why de1929 wrote like this.

-- bible --
Same applies to bible, regardless you understand / does not understand what is written in the bible, always ask HS like this: Is there anything you want to say Holy Spirit ? or my understanding is enough ?


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post Jan 27 2015, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 27 2015, 08:21 AM)
Yeah I guess I get your point about that. For my first ex, she was ok with me, when I told her a white lie that i was late. Like when I was driving in Bangsar and was late to pick her up at Dsara..I lied to her that I was already in Dsara..white lie. She somehow found out about that..but didn't make it a big issue.

Ya agreed if she truly had more feelings for me, she would have overlook and forget about the house issue.

I guess we both can relate on this because we both face challenges of being single.
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You shouldn't have lied, even a white lie is also a lie. Even if you're late, you should tell her the truth as well. Sometimes, I lie when I say I'm on the way when I'm actually still at home but I try to be early instead.

QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 27 2015, 08:32 AM)
Hmm regardless of religion?

For me its very difficult to link up with a non christian, our values are so different. I am good friends with quite a no of non christian girls who are single but I just could not fall for them. Although we can talk about work and other issues, but somehow I felt in my heart those other things like marriage, divorce, helping the poor, caring for others, forgiving....they are just miles away from my thinking.

And you know the bible did say not to have unholy yoke with unbelievers. I do know though from history that you have your own point of view, therefore I prefer not to go into a debate with you on that.
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My exes were non Christians so it's hard to relate about spiritual stuff, so it's alright to be friends but perhaps not in a relationship.
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post Jan 27 2015, 07:59 PM

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Spiritual activity and academical approach

My reply on post 2415 is too straight forward because i was simply tired. Forgive me.

Now i can give more objective answers.

Spiritual activity and academical approach are 2 different things.

Spiritual activities are relationship driven. CHRIST trust you, he bestowed upon you anything to accomplish anything. This, including miracles, prayer answered, and all power pack actions you can imagine of.

Academicals approaches are processes driven. Education is based on academicals approaches. Now at advanced education, pupils are trained to measure things and able to reason. When reason prevails / accepted among scholars, then born theories. When you apply a theory on how to read bible, then born the second god called context. When context rules, then people will not ask GOD why HS inspired writer to write the bible,

-- what is bible in context ? --
http://www.gotquestions.org/context-Bible.html

-- context vs case-per-case basis

When context rules, the first thing that out of league is case-per-case basis. This is where lawyers are afraid to resolve problem in life because they afraid, it will violate their bachelor degree and makes them being rejected / abandoned from their university / alma mater / community.

The context is what I called: religious spirit. It’s actually a wolf in sheep’s clothing. It forces reader to accept what general assembly of lawyers thinks, instead of asking HS, to resolve case-per-case basis.

It is common that 1 bible verse is against another bible verse, because bible is complete.
It has to provide grace for moslem converted who has 2 wives which all wife want to be christian, at the same time, 1 husband shall have 1 wife.
Bible is complete as well to answer euthanasia, at the same time thou shall not kill.

Therefore the proper way to use bible is to ask HS, what verse to apply on case-per-case basis. That’s where the power comes, that’s where the liberty comes.

-- power

Our life is to be a blessing and blessing people always case-per-case basis. Therefore it is imperative to ask HS how to bless the people. Power comes in obedience to CHRIST, therefore always observe case-per-case basis, instead of context.

Remember that context does not give you supernatural power, only obedience to CHRIST, including case-per-case basis.

-- Why I say the strong one rules ?

It’s simple and effective way to do mass communication.
Relationships with CHRIST always win. Not knowledge.



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post Jan 27 2015, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 26 2015, 11:24 PM)
Don't really know that revelation but I know this revelation.

Before the 10 commandments was given.

Why was it when they complain they had no food to eat and God gave them mana but no one died from complaining.

In the Book of numbers (after the law was given) same scenario but this time they died from complaining.

Why?  biggrin.gif Think about it.
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If I was walking under the hot sun for 3 days, I'll be complaining too. hahaha, JK..

The Jews do complained a lot. They are not grateful that God had saved them from Egypt. When God provided manna to them, they didn't give thanks to the Lord, instead they complaint! They wanted meat. The Jews were greedy too.

I think we should be thankful for what God had provided to us.

Moses felt that he wasn't a reliable leader too. He wanted to die right? He's asking God to kill him.

God's spirit was upon the chosen people too. The 70 leaders.

Is it because God had enough of their complaint?

QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 27 2015, 08:56 AM)
Sorry to hear about your break up.

I hope i do learn from my mistakes of 2014.

I would like to learn n understand more about women...when you say princess syndrome, what it means by that?

Of course men don't mind being the gentleman n provider...sometimes rship n understanding can be quite complicating...so I just want to understand better.
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No biggie.

Yeah, let me teach you how to get your dream girl. hahaha...

What are princess syndrome:-

1. Act like a princess (duh!)

2. She wants you to do everything for her. (You're a butler basically)

3. They like attention. (who doesn't?)

4. They are obsessed with their appearance. (who doesn't?)

5. High maintenance. (Be prepared to spend RM20K a month)

6. Spoiled brat. ( laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif )

7. Insecure about themselves (So they are having low self esteem)

Ok, so try not to find girls with this traits. Then you're set for life. LEL.

You need to tell her that looks, money, LVs, Pradas isn't everything. Be the man that you are. Don't be a wimp.

You need to show her who's the boss but too dominating is not good. Equal responsibility is always welcome.

You need to talk to her, asks her stuffs, even the smallest details help a lot. Lying about stuff is not good.

If you lie, just make sure you apologize.

If you don't mind me asking, is this your first relationship? If it is, its ok, just move on and think of solid strategy to tackle that next girl.

If somebody tells you that you can get any girls by following their pro tips, you got to ask yourself, am I having a relationship with a slut or a normal woman?

Bad girls are easy to find, its the good girls that are the rare gem. Same with guys.

QUOTE(pehkay @ Jan 27 2015, 11:32 AM)
That a lot of manna tongue.gif

You are what you eat. Experientially, according to the picture in the book of Exodus, the children of Israel were destined to have a heavenly living. However, when they came out of Egypt, they brought Egyptian food with them. In typology, Egypt typified the world. Like them, we have an "Egyptian diet", a taste for the world.

During the first few weeks of their travels, they ate this Egyptian food. But when the supply of Egyptian food was exhausted, the people were troubled and began to murmur and complain. Although the shortage of food was a problem to the people, it was a cause of joy to God, for it gave Him an excellent opportunity to change the living of His people. God’s intention was to change their living from an Egyptian living to a heavenly living. God did not want merely to adjust, change, or regulate the people outwardly. He wanted to change them organically by changing their diet. When the children of Israel were in Egypt, they had many different things to eat, all elements of the Egyptian diet. However, God wanted to change their diet from many items to just one item, and that item was the manna which came from heaven.

Manna is a type of Christ. If we are honest, we will admit that just as the children of Israel were bored of eating manna, we have sometimes become bored of eating Christ as our daily food.  sweat.gif
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Is it because of our human nature that we are too obsessed with the worldly things?

God provided meat for them, even though they complained.

This post has been edited by tinarhian: Jan 27 2015, 09:17 PM
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post Jan 27 2015, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 27 2015, 09:16 PM)
If I was walking under the hot sun for 3 days, I'll be complaining too. hahaha, JK..

The Jews do complained a lot. They are not grateful that God had saved them from Egypt. When God provided manna to them, they didn't give thanks to the Lord, instead they complaint! They wanted meat. The Jews were greedy too.

I think we should be thankful for what God had provided to us.

Moses felt that he wasn't a reliable leader too. He wanted to die right? He's asking God to kill him.

God's spirit was upon the chosen people too. The 70 leaders.

Is it because God had enough of their complaint?

God provided meat for them, even though they complained.
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No, it's a lesson for us to learn. You can choose to be under the covenant of God's Grace or under the Law.
Under Law you have to owned up to every sin you commit. That is why they died.
Under Grace you're under the Umbrella (his blood, his grace, by your faith) of our Lord Jesus Christ. That's why nobody died.

That's why I said in every book, there are hidden revelation of Jesus, even in the book of numbers. It's interesting to search Him.
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post Jan 27 2015, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 27 2015, 09:37 PM)
No, it's a lesson for us to learn. You can choose to be under the covenant of God's Grace or under the Law.
Under Law you have to owned up to every sin you commit. That is why they died.
Under Grace you're under the Umbrella (his blood, his grace, by your faith) of our Lord Jesus Christ. That's why nobody died.

That's why I said in every book, there are hidden revelation of Jesus, even in the book of numbers. It's interesting to search Him.
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So its better to be under grace.

If by law, we all die because we cannot save ourselves except through Jesus?
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post Jan 27 2015, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 27 2015, 09:41 PM)
So its better to be under grace.

If by law, we all die because we cannot save ourselves except through Jesus?
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It's the only one Jesus came to give, there's no other covenant.
There are only 2 covenants which God gave in this world.

OT = Cov. of Law | NT = Cov. of God's Grace.

Those who reject God's grace, will fall under the Law.

When you understand there are only 2 covenants, then you will understand this passage in the book of Hebrews


Hebrews 10:26 - If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,

Meaning those who reject God's Grace, put themselves under the law, if anyone under law deliberately keep on sinning, there are no sacrifice left........


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Many Christians don't understand Hebrews 10:26. They think that it means after receiving Jesus and they still deliberately keep on sinning, there's no sacrifice for sins left. So people misquote this verse to scare the living daylights out of Christians.
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post Jan 27 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 27 2015, 09:52 PM)
It's the only one Jesus came to give, there's no other covenant.
There are only 2 covenants which God gave in this world.

OT = Cov. of Law | NT = Cov. of God's Grace.

Those who reject God's grace, will fall under the Law.

When you understand there are only 2 covenants, then you will understand this passage in the book of Hebrews
Hebrews 10:26 - If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,

Meaning those who reject God's Grace, put themselves under the law, if anyone under law  deliberately keep on sinning, there are no sacrifice left........
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Many Christians don't understand Hebrews 10:26. They think that it means after receiving Jesus and they still  deliberately keep on sinning, there's no sacrifice for sins left. So people misquote this verse to scare the living daylights out of Christians.
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OIC.

How about Matthew 12:31?

The Unpardonable Sin

31"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

This verse also scare the living daylight... nod.gif
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post Jan 27 2015, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 27 2015, 09:58 PM)
OIC.

How about Matthew 12:31?

The Unpardonable Sin

31"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

This verse also scare the living daylight... nod.gif
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What does this verse tell you?

1 Corinthians 12:3 (NIV) - Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

Do you think Christians who have the HS can blaspheme the HS? See it in the context of 1 Corinthians 12:3.
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post Jan 27 2015, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 27 2015, 10:08 PM)
What does this verse tell you?

1 Corinthians 12:3 (NIV) - Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

Do you think Christians who have the HS can blaspheme the HS? See it in the context of 1 Corinthians 12:3.
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As a Christians we should not blaspheme against the HS.

If we say we have received Christ, then we cannot deliberately keep on sinning.

Ok, new things that I have learned today.
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 27 2015, 02:57 PM)
But I was surprised I could get cut off like that.

The bike incident, I try to relive it again n again...n still not understand why i say it was my house. I guess maybe she can't trust me in a LDR if I say these white lies undeliberately. She saw my gate was different, so she cut me off completely and gave a long laundry list of reasons why we should not be together. She comes from a very strict christian family. I suppose I blew it big time.

Its not as if I cheated on her, I never cheat on her. Ahh, I blundered big time.
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Stop reliving those memories, it reminds me when I couldn't forget about my ex, everything reminded me of her then. I had to pray over it so I won't be haunted by them.

What sort of strict Christian family? You should really relax and stop thinking about it.
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post Jan 27 2015, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 27 2015, 10:11 PM)
As a Christians we should not blaspheme against the HS.

If we say we have received Christ, then we cannot deliberately keep on sinning.

Ok, new things that I have learned today.
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No...sister. doh.gif

What 1 Corinthians 12:3 means:

people without the HS, cannot acknowledge Jesus is Lord.
And Vice Versa, people with the HS, cannot curse Jesus.

Because this is enabled by the HS.

So in relation and the context of blaspheming the HS (Matthew 12:31), it's referring to unbelievers blaspheming the HS. They can because they don't have the HS. Believers of Christ, simply cannot, there's no such desire neither does it make sense to do so.

And the part about deliberately sinning.....that is not the context for Hebrews 10:26.

It's about people who wants to uphold the Law and reject the Grace of Christ. People under this category falls under "no more sacrifice left"
God would not have it. It's either one of, can't have both covenant.

See...because under either covenant, people can still sin deliberately.



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post Jan 27 2015, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 27 2015, 10:25 PM)
No...sister.  doh.gif

What 1 Corinthians 12:3 means:

people without the HS, cannot acknowledge Jesus is Lord.
And Vice Versa, people with the HS, cannot curse Jesus.

Because this is enabled by the HS.

So in relation and the context of blaspheming the HS (Matthew 12:31), it's referring to unbelievers blaspheming the HS. They can because they don't have the HS. Believers of Christ, simply cannot, there's no such desire neither does it make sense to do so.

And the part about deliberately sinning.....that is not the context for Hebrews 10:26.

It's about people who wants to uphold the Law and reject the Grace of Christ. People under this category falls under "no more sacrifice left"
God would not have it. It's either one of, can't have both covenant.

See...because under either covenant, people can still sin deliberately.
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Yeah, I understand what it means. sad.gif
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 27 2015, 10:28 PM)
Yeah, I understand what it means.  sad.gif
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sweat.gif Why the sad face......
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post Jan 27 2015, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 27 2015, 10:30 PM)
sweat.gif Why the sad face......
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I understand what it means, I just don't know how to say it.

I'm not like DE you know.

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post Jan 27 2015, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Jan 27 2015, 10:37 PM)
So you are a princess? LoL...
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Of course not...except for the LVs. icon_rolleyes.gif

I have a hard time reading your replies. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 27 2015, 10:33 PM)
I understand what it means, I just don't know how to say it.

I'm not like DE you know.
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ok ok. sweat.gif



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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 27 2015, 11:42 PM)
Of course not...except for the LVs.  icon_rolleyes.gif

I have a hard time reading your replies.  shakehead.gif
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How many LV or prada u have ah? laugh.gif

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