As crucial as breathing.

Actually that's my style of posting, it's for others as well. Sorry if I tend to be repetitive.
Because this is a public forum, there could be first time readers so I was hoping this will be for their benefit as well.

Don't feel helpless. You have the Holy Spirit in you.

Just allow the Bible to speak and influence you. You have the HS, to help you recognize the truth, you will just know it when it speaks to your heart.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 21 2014, 10:22 PM

Dear Bro n Sis in Christ, let us not respond to that guy.

I'm sure people know this thread is about Christian fellowship.

We are quite active and sometime that can stir up insecurity for others.

For him to come in and try to convince about Islam, really show the obvious.


I've reported against his post. If no action, I will directly report this to Baronic.



This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 21 2014, 10:25 PM

Nothing to do with being insecure.
I'm sure myself and others have seen and heard this type of Moslem rebuttal many years ago, nothing new.
Did Jesus say he was the son of God? Very very typical question repeated for million of times (probably new to you) but
already addressed million of times and put to rest even before this andbefore you heard of it.

This is a Christian Fellowship thread, in case you it escapes you. You should understand the meaning of fellowship.
You want religious debate, please head over to RWI. I'm sure there are people over there who will oblige you.
Go ahead and post it in the link here below


https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2868726/+4780

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 22 2014, 12:25 PM

This is my ministry and much more than that.

Honestly to me this is the most basic fundamental that all Christian should embrace but to the Church it has regress into a culture shock, how much have the devil twisted the gospel at the pulpit?

Very much IMO.

That Pastor son was given this revelation but many Christian is still unable to understand and accept, that once we are made cleaned by the finish work of Christ, we are no longer called sinners.

They still think it's humbling to consider ourselves as sinner. When it's really an insult to say that because they deny God's work. They want Man's work.

I will fight against that as long as God gives me the strenght.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 24 2014, 10:58 AM

Yes many have forgotten that they too are indebted to the Grace of God,

Most of them post a Holier than thou attitude because they believe they got their righteousness by their own conduct. And this is due to wrong understand of doctrine.
Especially the older generation or those who come from old school train of thought.

Today is the Age of God's grace, the new covenant and even many Churches in Malaysia do not understand this. They mix law and grace together.
The age of Law is past and made obsolete.

Grace must be separated and upheld pure. Call it extreme grace if you want but Truth stand with Grace, apart from the Law.

I believe as evident from scripture, God is not into denominations, Jesus did pray for unity, among believers. There's only 1 Body of Christ. Even Catholics.
We should emulate how Christ thinks. We should practise being identified as non denominational if asked. But I leave that to each individual preference. To me denomination is but the culture of Man.

America was founded on precepts of Christianity at the early age. Why they have grown so powerful as a Nation was because of that. The residue and dwindling effect can be seen even today.
So is Israel, because they remain in the word of God. Any country established by the gospel, prosper..... like South Korea as current illustration.

However we have to be careful to intermingle politics with Christianity. Why? Because this is a fallen world, there will be opposing forces as what has happened to USA and S.Korea.

The devil will corrupt whatever Christian influences there is, be it AOG, Republican or Democrat. He will stir up on things like Money corruption, Sex Scandal, etc. We can't stop this completely either because the world will not get better. Because of this, I think, it is best to separate matter between State and Religion.

Though the world will get darker as the days goes by, the Church should shine brighter for Christ in contrast because God is with us. That is what it means to be salt n light for the world.

To be as wise as serpents, and harmless as doves and to stand on the Rock of your Salvation, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Though Jesus is tough, but He never hurt people. Let Love be your guide and standard in dealing with people, not the laws of God.

If you were referring to houses build on the foundation of rock (Luke 6:48), that is referring to your spiritual growth, whether you're founded on just listening the word of God but

1) doing nothing or
2) listening to it and doing something about it. (Faith + Work)

No.2 will cause you to be strong and unshakeable in the Lord.

And remember this act must be out of Love., otherwise it is futile.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 24 2014, 11:03 AM

Although this world will get evil and darker inevitably because of Jesus 2nd coming, it doesn't mean we should forget fighting against it.
We still need to pray against what is evil and against Satan until Jesus comes otherwise we will have difficulty expanding God's kingdom.

As thus we need to pray for our Government and those in authority. So that Man does not suffer and there is a balance of peace and prosperity despite of evil days.
God will plant his own people in the government.

I don't know, to what extend God wants his people to get involve in politics during the end times because there are people from diverse belief system, it's very hard to rule a country with christian doctrine in this fallen world. IMO, it's better to have separation between State and religion else we may end up like another religion, full of conflicts with people and with extremists and terrorism. That is the evident enough Satan is still working, twisting what is holy into corruption. This is his world, after all.

This world cannot be saved, it will be destroyed as God has ordained it. It will get evil and cold as the days goes by.
I don't foresee Nations being saved but Individuals. To think that we can restore temporary back to Eden of this fallen world is rather presumptuous.
Restoration of back to Eden is only true for individual believer life. All of us carry that part of Heaven's power on this fallen earth. And we carry God's Name if you will.
We are his witnesses to share the gospel so that, people may be saved. And for that to happen, we must pray involving all level of society from the lowest end to the highest in the government.

Peace guys.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 25 2014, 11:17 AM

We have new member joined in, Tina. Adding to the family.

Bro,

I think you misunderstand De_Luffy concerns.

From past experience, of what we have heard and seen so far in Malaysia political scene, there's too much corruption.

The basic meaning of politic = dealing with people. In the Greek is the word politikos, meaning relation with citizens.
However dictionary define the character of politic as shrewdness* in managing, contriving, or dealing with people.

I believe the base concern of De_luffy is from there*

In summary;

Politics they are things of Man.
Christianity they are things of God.

As such his view is that they should not mix.


You should have explained to Him that we can intercede for the nation praying to God to move people in authority in the government.
In there, there is no mixture. Christianity is about the gospel, Politics is about dealings and relation with citizens.

I think here is where both of you misunderstood each other.

Tell Him, if that is true he also need to obey the total sum of the Law 24/7 to be saved.
Make 1 mistake even having wrong thoughts or if he gets angry he forfeits it. That would include being mean to people.
His Salvation depends on it. Tell Him Grace and Law do not mix. There's no such thing as ignoring ceremonial laws because the Law encompasses all the Levitical laws as well. Tell Him he has to be perfect. If He can do that, tell him you will salute him. Then start to expose all his personal flaws one by one. You should know as family.

See how He reacts.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 25 2014, 08:04 PM

But you do know what I mean right?

Or you have doubts? Want me to explain further?

Hola.

Yup, you got that right.

Because in the same chapter any woman found lying about her virginity shall be stoned.

It's scary isn't it, the law?

Are you asking why there's the law disallowing man & woman from wearing each other clothing or
you're asking what's the purpose of the law as a whole?

Honestly I don't know what is the real reason behind that.

Most of the reasons (as per your example) given are presumed by Man's reasoning, Bible scholars through best logic deduction.
My only protest, it's still man's reasoning rather than a divine one.
It may be or may not be, God never really gave exact reasons why.

All I know is the purpose of the entire sum of the law.

But I don't see any harm (for friendly discussion purpose rather than trying to establish doctrine) in trying to best guess the reason why; perhaps to keep the order of nature as God intended, Man to be Man and Woman to be Woman.
Perhaps cross-dressing would give wrong ideas to either gender in trying to exchange gender roles.
Could be anyone's guess.


P.S: After going through your link. Can add...might give wrong ideas on gender attraction. Woman to Woman and Man to Man. makes a lot of sense.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 25 2014, 11:09 PM

Actually if you think about it, applies to both gender. Law No.7 states you shall not commit adultery.

If you notice, the law seems to put heaver responsibility on the Man, in the sense he has many decisions to consider.
He can't really have any sexual relation as He pleases without being responsible to that one he has sexual relationship with.

The woman on the other hand just need to scream "rapist" to be free from this guilt.

lol, No., of course not.

but You can always quote Jesus wisdom, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone"

in your defence, in case someone ask.

Or just quote that touching story, linked by De_luffy.

The Blood of Jesus washes all sins.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 25 2014, 11:31 PM

That's why I strongly encourage for you come clear with your partner before marriage.
Let him know everything that bothers you. Don't drop the news after marriage.

If he accepts you, all the more reason for you to know he might be the right one from God.
If he rejects you, then it saves you greater future headache and pain.

Relationship is about trusting each other.

Pre planned doesn't mean God is going to drop him from the sky to your lap.

You still need to do your part in scoping out the right dude, if that's the word for it.

I mean make sure, first of all, you did pray asking this request. Nothing wrong imo to ask God for this.

Then live your life as usual, go out with friends, make new friends, go to birthday parties, things like that.

My point is, don't worry about it. One day you'll meet him. God will move both of you to meet up.

You won't find a perfect dude for sure, doesn't exist.

Most guys fake that perfect gentleman front just to impress girls. It is usually after marriage, every single flaw will be revealed. lol.

But you'll find there are still many available imperfect people with personality flaws.

Don't worry about finding a decent dude. What's important is that both of you can tolerate each other's flaws with a very high degree of tolerance.

Because if both of you have that, it will be easier to adapt to each other and to change in character after married.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 26 2014, 12:44 AM