How about this?

Then why do i hear christian leaders talk about the bible consfication issue? about cannot use a certain Wallahaha word?

They also criticize certain powers to be in the nation what.

Its about love your enemies but that doesn't mean you accept what they are doing.

Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong?

If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself,’ you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers.”

tell me, how the fcuk for the poor can help the poor? if u have no $$, help the poor? love others ? help ass? what a joke? just compare the great rich people, and those poor Christians, has nothing, only have so called "holy spirit" and bible, what can they do to save the world, help people for their salvation, and other thing and so on. except from using marketing and brainwashing skill to market this religions and generate more revenue income for their own church.
FACE THE f***ING REALITY dudes, from what i learn from those pastors and bible, EVERYDAY IS END OF THE WORLD, i learn how to self-destructing in a godly way.
eg. for example, i know some people (but not me , i am not so stupid to commit such silly action) destroy certificate , pay so much times and money and parents hard earn money and just waste like that without any responsibility. "and said we must love our parents", by doing these is freaking irresponsible to parents, such decision is so hurtful for parents.
if we cant serve the world, who the hell to feed us in everyday lives? using marketing  strategy and brainwashing method to lure unbeliever to come to church and expect to feed us by giving so called tithe and claim will get blessed by GOD o.0?  be a monk Christians ?( become Buddhist better ) it makes the leader become more incompetent, become good in talking instead of action to solve problems, the cycle keep repeat itself until everyday is the end of world. look at how outsider look down on this religions and they are afraid to tell what their heart felt becoz scare get judgement and punishment by these "face-thicking entities" which failed to admit their fault all the times. and many people left it,
i thought satan control the world according to bible? there are many companies and government manage to take control for all the resources. is jesus want us to starve to death ? why so contradict itself?
depart from world, yes i know if anything related to sinful is harmful.
everything depends on god or angels, THEN? failed to think properly, failed to solve problem for themselves and help others it is suppose to be a light fro the world? end up be what?
everyday living in a delusion and magical world, think like in a dreamworld , any magical thing can happen to their live.
whats the point we have the brain, anything and everything depends on these 'miracles and prayers'. can these entities solve the problems? it solve shiits problems. failed then blame the people. so irony
LOOK at the world, how they create and solve the problems. how they think.
if the churches have problem, what those Christians do ? pray lol, so simple. have fun and eat some 'antidote' to calm down their worries, and escape from the harsh reality and continue sleep, hoping for 'alibaba djinn' to save them, when next day wake up, problem still there, whats the points?
why dont learn to solve itself instead on 100% relying on these spirits, what if suddenly they no response to our situation, die right? (i know got bible quotes that "you must depend on god , by man cant do and this and that and will failed," oh really? look at the reality, now this is the modern times, not ancient time with no much information access and available at that time, thats why the can boost their power proudly)
i personal saw these situation in countless times. i know these "holy spirits' chose people to help according to their criteria so called 'faith' LOL
in real case, those people blindly faith and blindly believe really killed themselves by having these thought.

So, I got this text message on Saturday morning from the CG elder telling me that tattoos are bad and evil and all that stuffs.

OK..

Then they want to suggest to meet up and discuss further with me about this issue. I said its not an issue because I'm going to get it remove. I just told them to stop judging me and leave me alone.

Then I got another text message telling me that I am not welcome for next week CG. 

That sucks! 

I think they are quite legalistic. 

Its just a stupid tattoo.

When I saw them in church yesterday, they (CG Elder) would not even smile or even greet me, it is as if I was a total stranger. The others are not so bad.

I would not let this bad experience spoil my love for God. I will still attend this church, just not the CG. hehe..

unknown warrior,and dear others who quote me, its not i dont understand, i am the one who escape from the trap. i  m ex-Christians, i know the way of these entities works, and all the flaws in current systems. however i lazy to type much here since most people can never admit it. pointless.
there is no such thing as "end of the world", it is "end of humanization".
Christ can never return to earth for 1 shot, it is only when a person time is end or has done the job in human life. some people pass early and go to heaven, some not, some need to wait until the time is over.
eg, if u having an exam, some exam rules state that once u finish the answer u may go early, some must stay back in exact time. if u pass , congrats, if fail then gg.com
IF when nuclear world war 3 launch and strike many civilization come to end, the earth will still remain there, it is only the END OF HUMANIZATION/POPULATION

de1929, i may not know all, but at least quite a lot. no point i reveal here, coz it is nothing, only for self use. dont worry, the cycle will keep repeating until to the end. I cant change anything although i quite dislike these shits.

say byebye to humanity, it is already reached in almost perfect hopeless state in city and development area/counties. and it is almost impossible for Christ to save these people anymore. ( i guess) and Buddhist (maybe still tiny hopes).
the argument and discussion about churches, Christ and all related histories in bible and all form of unclear and parallel vague verses meaning in bible is never ending.
continue to keep wasting time since the beginning. good luck

Then how to forgive? To not utter a word when you see them doing somethng wrong?

Yes Jesus was mistreated, and he ask God to forgive them but those who tortured him are going to hell, because they never repented their sins and accepted Jesus as saviour.

Even after Jesus was crucified, the Apostles continued to address the people who tortured Jesus as those who are doing the wrong way in their epistles.

I knew of a very staunch brother got one time, he was very enthusiastic, he asked his brothers to come for a club he wanted to set up. So i asked if I can join in, then at the table, i was criticized by his friends because they dislike my request. I continued to ignore what they said and still talk like normal even though i was criticised. After that he realised he did something wrong, he later apologised to me. But again, he still not invite me when he organized those club stuff. Not that I have anything against him, I forgave him too but I wonder how honest was his apology?

Even if you went to a certain brother to say sorry, later your actions don't reflect that at all.

So what constitutes a 100% forgiveness?

How about Hebrews 9:27
Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment
if you know how the universe/nature law/god of law work, we do not die once, only the memory swap away if the time is up
the hebrew claim this because of the human memory, there is a time frame for everything, even in heaven, the difference is long or short,
unknown warrior, i saw many miracles too,  healing, cast out demons, solve many human life problems, however, the deep root problems still failed and always failed to get resolved due to many factors,
again, there is no such thing as "christ die for our sin". it is a trap.nvm

I used to be a bitter and selfish Christian before too. I only think of myself and could not care less about others.

I used to think why God let so much sufferings in this world. Why so much evil in the world? Why does He let the good people die? But then today, I realized that God gave us free will to decide. To repent require us to take that leap of faith into the unknown.

To fully trust the Lord and to accept Him as Our Eternal Saviour.

Yes, God let all things happened, good and bad, so that He can come to save us, but not all of us are going to repent and be saved.

God is good, all the time, and all the time, God is good.

Thank you God for giving me a second chance in life, to glorify your Name and to be your servant.

My perspective of life truly changed for the past month. I felt that God truly lifted my burdens off my shoulders. Its really unbearable at times.

All the booze and casual sex is so pathetic indeed. I felt dirty, unloved and I regretted over what I have done.

I really need God to forgive my sins again and He forgave me. And I feel new and I can look into the mirror, and I promised to God that I want to live a righteous life again.

No more booze, party, clubbing, sex, tattoos, etc..

I live for God now.

de1929, up to you. i dont need to argue with you.

unknow warrior,  Fear of lack of money and Fear of death are the main concern.

in bible it state, 'christ die for our sin' is not equal to 'testify the power', from what i know, no such thing happens. yea he resurrect, because he done the job according to the law, and went to heaven.
the way to heaven can be 'patterned' in creative manner religiously, still all creatures have to follow the same rule in order to go there.

not all chosen one receive the taste will 100% succeed go up.

de1929, i mean most people has these fear, thats why they need find these GOD to secure their live for free, instead of insurance which need to pay.

some people do not allowed to be rich by god, forced to be poor, this is what i hated to most. for past few years, i have been not allowed to do any thing that can make me earn more money even in legal way. more money-> can save more people. by chasing out these harraser spirit is the main goal for me LOlz. if one is poor, it will causes unnecessary unending suffering . some more this is not the tribulation. 

unknown warrior,from your reply, this is one of the example i called as 'trap'. it is not as easy as u think, and it is not as simple as they said too.

Ok I get it. I know that doing good works does not guarantee us free trip to heaven.

Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

now waiting for malaysia

Malaysia bolehhhhh 

well, that would not happened as long Umgok is still in power, not even in 100 years  

Something like this: I must walk in line with God's command, to be obedient in order to be saved.......That is Ergon.

Is there a typo? Because if not I don't understand it then.

Got to love Leviticus 19:28. 

I guess it is easier to follow outward ordinances or throw verses ... than to see the inward need. Not easy.

I like this verse, Acts 15:9, "He made no distinction at all between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith."

Peter's word about the cleansing of our hearts by faith indicates that God does not care for outward legalistic ordinances which cannot cleanse man’s inner being; rather, He cares for the inward cleansing of man’s heart.

We should be more concerned on the inward "tattoo wearing" in man's heart ...

Ah, because the previous sentence was saying the meaning of 'I have to obey to be saved'. Not because 'I'm saved therefore I obey'.

English is a tricky thing.

A great discussion about Jesus

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