Yup. The indwelling. Thought v13 was in v12.

Well, the truth is.

God uses reality to train us up. It hasn't reach the stage whereby the supernatural is dorminant.
God provides us with wisdom to deal with reality.

Yes, what is seen is temporarily(reality)
The unseen is eternal(spiritual)

The thing with you is. You think that just because you are in Christ, you do not think you have to live in reality anymore.
The fact is reality gets even real when you are in Christ.

Because we are in Christ, We have to undergo persecution etc. Things will no longer go as smoothly as before. We also get more attack from Satan. Things can actually get worse.

Christians in Islam countries even have to die in the name of Christ.

The thing is, through reality, we can also confirm our identity in Christ. When people persecute us because we speak the truth. When people persecute us because we reveal our identity in Christ, it just confirms even more that we are Children of God.
You think that because we are in Christ, we will proper(Things will get better)

The thing is, we will not. In fact, because we are in Christ, we may even be poorer for that(materialistically) because we use our resources to help those in need.

The thing is, the verse which you posted. Yes, we fix our eyes unseen. Not what is seen.
So that is why even though we may suffer from a materialistic point of view or even sometimes an emotional or social point of view,
we look forward because we focus on the eternal things.

Even though our friends or even family will insult us because of our belief. We may even lose dignity. We may even lose material things. But because we are in Christ, we perservere because we are holding on for the hope in the future.

The thing about you is, you are always on the view that God has to do things your way just because you have been saved. You make God your puppet rather then your lord.

Haha. How you know that I am bitter and unhappy most of the time.

Did you even see me in real life?

Just because I happen to be agressive here, you conclude that I am like that in real life.

Shows how shallow you are. Right?

......

Your maturity really does not coincide with your age. I feel like I am talking to a twenty something or even a teenager.

Even Decky is probably more matured then you. Says a lot right?

It's pretty easy to say that my views are wrong without any justification.

Yeah, twisting the main gist.

Incredible. How someone can determine a person is sad just by looking at the post.

Really a 40 plus with a 10-20+ mentality.

That is always what you are good at.

Yeah. Hide is the best word to describe you. The one who is insecure is probably you. You need the attention. Insecure people always need attention

I think its alright for women (and men) to wear nice clothes, make-up, etc. As long as we wear modestly and do not spend too much time and money on self beautification, is fine with me.

1 Timothy 2:9-10

9 I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.

There goes my LV, Dior and Kate Spade..

I am rather the opposite. Most of my friends are unbelievers except one special person I know who is a christian.

Reason being? I felt betrayed by my christian peers. Like the church I am currently attending for 6 blasting years not even one friend I can trust. My previous church of 6 years, not even one person kept in touch. When I moved from one cg to another, because the cg leader moved his cg to wednesday which was inconvenient to me, the previous cg leader don't even bother to say hi when he see me at church. Some of the church people are so fake, I know them for so many years, invite them for some stuff, they just ffk me. Its not even to decline my invitation ! Instead they say, i will come lah, but when i go there, i kena ffk. After i confront these people why you do this to me? Then they start to reveal a long laundry list at me, about why they have problem with me.

Not like my unbeliever friends. If they have open house, they will invite right away. I have 20 years since childhood/kindergarden friendship with some of my unbeliever best friends. They got YEE HEI, when they say they do this, they will do it. Not like the christians at my church, they just promise me something, and then next day, they pull out their promise and give me a long laundry list of complains.

Some of my unbelieving friends even invite me to their house, share with me their food stuff, even give me gift bags of expensive food stuff to bring back to my family. Not like the hospitality i get from my church peers. Like my youth church, they play so much politics at me. Then last time when they don't have enough quorom, they invite me to their christmas party, and ask me to pay RM60 fee. Then when I paid, go there, sit there like statue, they totally ignored me. When they got their quorom, they just treat you like you are nothing. Neh, that Cheras Tmn Billion church. Crap church.

Got such people?

haha. My new cg people are a bit better but still they belong to the church that i can't stay for long due to the backstabbing nature.

I have unbeliever friends that are triad gangsters, yet they have more loyalty and integrity than those whom i met at church. At least they are forthright honest about who they are. Unlike those at church who profess righteosness but I see before my eyes, they bully other weak minded christians and socially outcast them. Some of these joker christians are born into christian families.

i wonder, is it any way ask holy spirit to leave? i saw  alot Christians convert to atheist or Buddhism.
but the holy spirit still there and keeping harass the converter.

dear Christians, do you guy know those thunderstorm and rain is causing by GOD or just natural disaster, just to punish recently?

Don't confuse unforgiveness with distrust.

There are certain people you don't trust anymore because you know they will do it again and again. For eg, if you forgive Oscar Pistorious, then suddenly one day the court order Oscar to sleep next to you with a handgun, would you trust to sleep next to him? Maybe if your urine sack is full, then you want to go to toilet, he likely pump some led through your brains with his handgun.

allegory, why dont ask and know the reason for those ex-Christians left ? lose faith?
being realistic a bit. thank you. its is not about dream world we live now,
not every time are human fault, some entities are in fault too.
coz love cover their sin, everything, that why become blindly listen ,blindly accept, and blindly eat sweety shhitt all the time.

Let bygone be bygone? Then when you go to church, same old same old problem with people there. You want to get certain things done, they hold you back or ignore you.

THe best is to avoid those sections, that's what I do. I just go to cg that's all. Sometimes to sunday church.

The thing is, they won't meet you. I gone to church, and these people just give me a glimpse and don't say helo. I just go my separate way.

But there was one time, I deliberately pat the person hard on the back, then walk off not say hello. Well its a form of saying hello.

How to love?

They just walk by and ignore me. I say hello also kena ignore.

I just ignore them. But that doesn't mean you can't be critical of how they conduct their ministries and forewarn others intend to join.

I lost my best friend coz she's an atheist. Life moves on. So, yeah, I forgave her even though she broke my heart.

Um, yeah, when I'm in church and in cell group, I will try not to talk so much about worldly things unless they ask.

And I forgot that I got dragon tattoo on my ankle. Of course, the uncles and aunties asking me about it. 

Note to self, next Friday I will wear jeans instead.

I feel that going to church is like a job interview. Oh my, what if I say the darnest things? What if I offend somebody?

One thing I forgot to bring was the Bible. Coz I got the Bible app on my hp. 

All the seniors brought theirs. Oh man! They seem to prefer NIV.

I'm not familiar with the worship songs though. Oh man! I only know Hillsong. 

One aunty remarked that the Dragon is the symbol of the Devil. She said young lady like me should not have such tattoo. Then she asked me, "How many tattoos you have?"

I told her only one. I lied. Oh God why?!!

Cool!