Let just say God is faithful and I can attest to that.
He provides all my need. Let just say I consented to the Lord to provide anyway He wants.
I didn't pray that it must be this way or that way, I told the Lord, whatever way you see fit.

And He does!

To me that is God prospering me.

Psalm 35:27 (NAS) - Let them shout for joy and rejoice, who favor my vindication; And let them say continually, "The LORD be magnified, Who delights in the prosperity of His servant."

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 7 2014, 09:52 AM

And I want to apologize to Decky here for being too hard on scripture argument.

My zealousness for The Lord has caused me to an immovable Iron.

I became the very thing I speak against, lol.

So next time, I'm just going refrain myself from responding even, unless asked to explain what I think about it.

Oi Oi You guys.

Tolong behave.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 7 2014, 10:39 AM

Bro Dee,

problem must be dealt at the root (akar).

That's what Jesus meant when he said about plucking out your eyes if it cause you to lust.

Jesus was speaking figuratively to make us think. What he meant was everything starts at the heart and mind.

We need to be convince and agree in our mind and heart, that these things is something God the Father sees as destructive.

Because it will destroy us. And you need to remind yourself, you are made righteous in Christ, so don't go back to what you are not.

You have been made clean and has given you the power of the HS to be free from all these. You are under Grace. You can do all things through Christ.
But it doesn't mean you should go looking for trouble.

What I mean is this: Avoid even looking at whatever pictures that will stimulate. If have, in your pc have those lust type of videos, delete it permanently.
All these are only on the surface prevention. What will really help is prayer! And I believe prayer works because Father God answer them!

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 7 2014, 11:52 AM

Yea but it doesn't mean we go and hold a snake just to test how strong we are.

If you mean to have a mindset not to look at the pictures at the beginning, yes.

If you mean to pick up the magazine and then try and use your strength to avoid looking....... , don't think that will work.

The problem is that all of us Christian still have the flesh. Now I must make clear, We are not the flesh neither are we sinners anymore, that is not our identity.

Though we have been renew in the spirit, But the problem is we are still stuck in our old body which have the flesh.

Romans 8:7 (NAS) - because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,

That is why I believe this will only work through prayer. Our mind and will power is powerless to submit to God when it comes to abstaining from lust.

Bro I hope you dun get angry but that is trusting in self confidence.

And anything that is from self is not of Christ. Anything that is not of Christ is powerless.

And the flesh is powerless to submit to God. God's word is never wrong bro.

I know you're teaching us to be combat ready to fight lust but Jesus never teach us like that when it comes to the lust of the eyes.

He wants us to deal at root level. Root Level means it start from your heart and mind. 5 seconds already means you are engaging outside of your heart and mind.

Why you want to provoke like this?

You had a bad day or what?

Root level means in bahasa indonesia, Akar.

Jesus says to deal lust at "Akar" level not on the surface of eyes.

So question, How to deal at root problem?

Maybe we all can discuss this.

Based on

Romans 12:2 (NIV) - Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.

What do you think is the root level?

Actually none of us are immune to lust, For me If I say that I am immune to it and I'm able to overcome it or even control it, I would be lying to myself.

But how is it, that the desire to see pornography isn't there anymore in my life?

It's the work of the Holy Spirit that removed that wrong desire and empowered me, even when no one is watching. All of him, none of me or mine.

I think what is the right thing to do is to agree that first of all, that Jesus is the one who saved us and made us righteous (even in the midst of such temptation), we can't save ourselves, that lust is wrong and admit before God we don't have the strength to stand against it.

I believe God honours that simple and honest prayer. What has worked in my life, will work for anyone. God is a respector of no one.

What has worked for dee, also works. It's equally real but If I am to admit that I'm able to control it because of my strength, by the same token, if I fall due to the failure of my strength, I will be condemned by my heart because it's about my strength. I failed because of me. That is what the Law of the OT all about.

But If I failed despite already praying and trusting God, that puts me under Grace. And the Bible promised those under grace, will reigned in life and the power to sin will lose it hold.

It will take time but let's be patience about it.




What class is that?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 9 2014, 12:53 PM

Yup.

Perhaps this your calling in life.

If it's your passion, quite hard to be wrong.

About 2 years. Started late though.

Was in the corporate world since early 90's.

Can say I gave up & lost hope in whatever security the world has to offer.

Found hope in Christ to be much better.

Hallo Pope,

Proverbs 24:16 is valid for all believers even for de1929.

Grace mean receiving good from God especially when we don't deserve it.


Romans 4:5 - However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.


Whether cheap or expensive, Not in your place to qualify who gets its or who doesn't. If God has given this grace to the ungodly, no way you can disqualify the ungodly.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 10 2014, 11:21 AM

With Man it is impossible but With God all things are possible, no?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 10 2014, 09:58 PM

Truth is eternal, things unseen. What can be seen is temporal.

2 Corinthians 4:18 - So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

Realities of Life may say no hope because of this reason and this or that reason but there is always hope in Heavenly Father.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 11 2014, 05:09 PM

Precisely! As with Law and Grace.

Romans 11:6 - And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.


The word works here is not pertaining to Church works but Effort of Man.

In the Greek is ergon which means; work, labor, action, deed.

Even obedience to God is an "action".
And we have Church circle preaching Law so much, the grace of God has been missed completely, Christ nullified.

As in verse 13, as the key.

Nothing to it.