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post Jan 10 2015, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 11 2015, 12:27 AM)
Seriously dude, have you seen a LV and Gucci bags?

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You mean John F. MacArthur right? Didn't we all agree that you tend to force your views upon others? hehe...

Its fine with what you want to do but hey, you know if its doesn't feel right, its not right at all.
These expat are sure bloody rich. Some even got benefits such as car companies, return flight ticket, chauffeur, maids, etc..
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You're right. The oil company he works for did provide him a Nissan Amera car. Oil company lots of $$$
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post Jan 11 2015, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 11 2015, 11:06 PM)
Hello! <3 Jesus Loves ME, You, EVERYONE!
haha.. i just found out this thread, will track it..
AM from Calvary in Sabah.. God Bless!<3
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post Jan 12 2015, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 12 2015, 10:44 AM)
We are not sinners because we sin. We are sinners because we inherited Adam's sin.
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post Jan 12 2015, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 12 2015, 05:25 PM)

agreed, we are sinners when we are a baby,
oh no, that can't be.
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post Jan 12 2015, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 12 2015, 09:14 PM)
your income from where? good boy! stock trader sins right coz of gambling
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trading can be high risk n speculative. yeah in the way, it is like gambling (fast win, fast loose) and addictive.

but investing is different as it is for long term (1 year) and above.

i have learn my hard lessons enough that i have decided not to trade stock anymore. hope he is not in that path too. just my 2 cent advice.
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post Jan 13 2015, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Jan 13 2015, 03:07 AM)
I'm feeling quite discouraged that my firend is still attempting to overdose herself. I understand that it takes time and I can't let emotions get in the way.

Still really sad to see sad.gif
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your friend got depression and taking those anti-depression pill?
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post Jan 15 2015, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 15 2015, 12:23 AM)
Personally, I think Grace Teaching is somewhat breaking God's heart..

The idea of God died and cleanses us of our past, present, and future sins..
:S Even if we sin after accepting the Lord, we don't need to repent, as Jesus forgave us on the cross..

I disagree, what do you guys say?
If like that, everyone just say sinner's prayer, continue sinning, go hallelujah..
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Yeah sinner's prayer is not enough
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post Jan 16 2015, 11:33 AM

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There is a difference between 'good' pride and 'bad' pride.

Good pride - 'I may not be the most outstanding Christian and I don't have to be as long I give my best. I am proud to be a Christian. I am not ashamed to tell people of it. (good self-esteem)'

Bad pride - 'I am better Christian than you. I know I am always right and you are not. I have special connection with God than most people. So listen to me instead. Why you so weak?' - Although they don't say such words that directly, their conversation/attitude reveal it all clearly (Luke 6:45) which can be seen by others. But those who got 'hidden pride' might be a little more difficult to detect.

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post Jan 16 2015, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 16 2015, 01:39 PM)
to be honest, why bother about the word "humble"
if we cannot walk through the wall ?
if we cannot walk on water
if we even don't have experience that GOD can heal somebody when we pray, so our church leader say... oh GOD has other plan ?

meaning... i just success "little bit", share it, and you call it... not humble ?

how can our church grow and be an impact if the congregation is not success... at least like.. like me ?
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 16 2015, 01:51 PM)
to make it simple, JESUS gave me feedback on my yesterday activities. How, cuz i ask HS. So when JESUS say "I AM pleased with what you did yesterday", then i called it success...

being rich / poor is not relevant
being a silent reader / outspoken is not relevant
being humble / not humble is not relevant

cuz when ppl think humble, maybe HS does not think humble
cuz when ppl think not humble, maybe HS thinks it's sufficient
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post Jan 17 2015, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 17 2015, 01:40 PM)
We are made Sinners because of Adam's Sin
Is not the correct version should be 'Yes we all are born with sinful nature because of Adam. Sinful nature is NOT a sin itself. But when we GIVE IN into temptation to fall into sin, it is because of us wrong decision (taking responsibility of our deeds and not blaming Adam)'?

And when we have sinned, there will be consequence (because of Adam).

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post Jan 17 2015, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jan 17 2015, 05:01 PM)
when God first created Man and Woman, they are naked but they do not know it............and God forbid them to eat the fruits from Tree of Good and Evil however the serpent enticed the woman into eating it so with the Man, those were the first Sin of Man...........Man was sinless when he was created but He sinned against God when He and his wife ate the fruit from the Tree of Good and Evil
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Yes I understand that Adam initially is sinless and later he fell into sin. But what I am trying to explain is Adam can inherit sinful nature to the future generation and when we sin, there will be consequences. But what makes us now fell into sin is not because of Adam. When we are tempted, we can either choose to give in to temptation and thus fell into sin or we can choose to flee from it. We can blame Adam because of the sin's consequence but we shouldn't blame Adam when we fell into sin. Rather we should take personal responsibility when we fell into sin.

This is not related to God's plan for salvation yet. The point is more toward, NOT to blame Adam (because he pass sinful nature to us) when we fell into sin.
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post Jan 17 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Jan 17 2015, 05:27 PM)
I don't think anyone of us blame Adam. It's like blaming our grandfather because he choose to come to Malaysia and not to the United States tongue.gif
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post Jan 18 2015, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 17 2015, 05:49 PM)
Actually it's we who inherited from Adam's sin. Adam pass it on to the future generation. Inherit means to receive from.

And when you say "and when we sin, there will be consequences" that is under the context of unbelievers who have yet to receive Christ.

John 5:13-14 - …13 But the man who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had slipped away while there was a crowd in that place. 14 Afterwards Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, "Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you."


I'm talking about God's Salvation plan, How He sees it. The definition is important because it helps us to understand why.

I don't dispute what Pehkay mentioned and I understand what you're trying to say but, that is not my contention. Those are the characteristic of what is sin.
That it is alive and lives in people who have yet to accept Christ. Those who have accepted Christ, sin is removed away, washed clean. This is one part many Christian are still confuse, can be seen when they say, as a Christian you're still a sinner.

It must be understood from Bible perspective why God see us as sinners because of One Man (Adam).

We are made sinners because of Adam's Sin is the correct theology.

Consider this part in Romans which coincided with the devotion earlier. It gives the answer why.

18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
Have you thought why in the Christian community, they say that no matter how much Good or Righteous thing you do, you can't remove your sin away?
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actually I am just talking about when we sin, don't blame adam but take personal responsibility only. nothing to do with others
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post Jan 18 2015, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 18 2015, 10:08 PM)
Well of course, every sinners who reject Christ will need to account for every sin they commit.

They put themselves under the judgement of the Law.
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I think you still didn't catch what i am trying to say but i think its ok la. Maybe we both frequency lari hmm.gif
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post Jan 18 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Jan 18 2015, 10:42 PM)
... if HS approves... then bribe lah... cuz there is provision in that. Don't worry be happy... cuz it's GOD that approves and endorse you.
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post Jan 19 2015, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 19 2015, 12:03 AM)
can you look at yourself first? maybe you are the 'problem'. continue to add value yourself and think women is not important to you.

MINDSET OF A REAL MAN :
1. Woman is Number Two, My Passion is Number ONE…
2. I Am Honest and Being My Self… I Don’t care if Woman likes it or not…
3. I Don’t apologize for the things I Desire… I Know what I Want and I Know
How to Get it!
4. I am CONFIDENT, ATTRACTIVE, CHARMING, and Yes, Woman Knows it…
5. I WANT Woman, but I don’t DESPERATELY NEEDING them…
6. I Don’t Allow Woman to Control my Life and Emotions, I Control Theirs
instead…
7. I am The MOST important Person in my RELATIONSHIP with Woman…
8. Even though I LEAD Woman, I LEAD with LOVE…
9. I Care and Love Woman… but once they’re out of Line, I Punish them…
10. I Give Woman TWO Chances to make mistakes… the FIRST and the
LAST…
11. I am NOT afraid to Walk Away from any Woman no matter how
beautiful they are…
12. Woman Lives under My RULES, and under my RULES, I will LOVE them
with all my HEART!…
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Not much of a REAL Man, but more toward REAL EGO - in chinese we called it 'Tai Lam Yam' (BIG MAN EGO) biggrin.gif

For me, besides liking each other, I think if things can a little more easier to work out when:

1. both put God first - Some both put God first, they will change to develop Christ-like characters (all those fruits of the Spirit in Gal 5: 22-23 - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control).

2. communication - Communication is a skill which need to be learn esp both man and women are different species. Maybe for men, they need to be a better listener and try not to quick to offer solution when you don't need to.

3. willing to accept each other strength and weaknesses - Both has their strength and weakness. Some weaknesses are not so easy to change because of background and nature. So should expect his/her partner to change over the night. So don't just nag or complain his/her weaknesses, because each person has his/her own weaknesses too. Instead, build up each other up, praise each other strength and accept who he/she is a whole package.

Actually, I only how to talk theoretically here only. In real life, I also struggling .. biggrin.gif


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post Jan 19 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 19 2015, 02:05 PM)
in bible shows wife should obey her husband liao and husband should love the wife. if she cannot obey you before marriage, she cannot obey you afterwards too. Don't change people because change people is hard since it's a habit from her for 20 years then you need to change her for 20 years. Shall you find the girl you want her, rather than change so real man should know what he wants. everyone has ego, who doesn't have an ego?
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Yes husband is to lead and yes wife is to submit to husband but doesn't man is to boss over the spouse. Leading means setting the good example in the family. Leading means making the decision and take responsibility, but at times certain decision should discuss with wife too because husband respect wife.

Man ego (bad pride) is different. This bad ego means for example, "Listen to me and be submissive la. I am the head of the family. I don't need to know or listen to your opinion." something like that.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jan 19 2015, 10:35 PM)
I don't think any of my statements show that we should boss our gf/wife. see point 8. eventhough I lead, I lead with LOVE
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May I know what is your definition of love? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 21 2015, 01:45 PM)
Not sure what you are writing here et al..............
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