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 Property Bubble & Its Social Impact V13, LYN famous DDD Vs UUU Thread

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post Nov 5 2014, 09:55 PM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3400740



BBW..news that favor u whistling.gif
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post Nov 6 2014, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 6 2014, 06:29 PM)
Student....it is called risk and diversification. This is investment 101 you don't even know  doh.gif

Don't put all eggs into 1 basket. Every investment has its risk. I am happy with some high risk products. And some low risk products. And guess what ? My property investment is considered low risk because my MOF is very low. Most have already fully paid.

Of course you wish me all in KV property market. Because you want to see the UUU die. Does my way of investment disappoint you ?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 6 2014, 06:29 PM)
Like you meh put all egg in 1 basket, now after sold off egg basket also pawn out, wanna collect egg also not basket to put.. laugh.gif

Must be diversified mah, can always move the cheese around, you student never heard of "Who Move My Cheese" story ah ?

Why you so lazy don't want to work hard & earn money to buy property at current price, why you day & night can only wish people bankrupt only you can buy at lower price ?

Now your know lah, owner not so easy fall one as they have other investment supporting their property investment, i am quite sure Showtime not the only one.
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Why you two explain so much to a person who quote and unquote "Keeping cash is a form of investment." laugh.gif
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post Nov 7 2014, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 7 2014, 10:39 AM)
Dog eye look down at ppl..
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Aren't that's what you doing to me? Why so selective..only DD cam look down, critic, vulgar, post news but UUU one all can't believe and is conspiracy?

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post Nov 10 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 09:51 PM)
how the f*** the can get loans? bro showtime747, time for clarification time... 90% damm overstretch flippers ....but how to get loans like that?
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joint accounts? Guarantors (e.g parents/relative with high income?)

E.g. My relative + his gf joint income ard 10~12k I think buying 1.5m hse. Not qualify for loan but his father guarantor instant qualify.
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post Nov 10 2014, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 11:46 PM)
ur relative better sure, coz this case really need father to chip in and pay... 10k to 12 k havent deduct car commitments.. for sure, 2 cars sumore, staying in 1.5 million, basic also honda/toyota/voks

this is still not overstretching case?

market out there are working on a majority and usually to have include only 2 joint incomes of wife and husband, that is where the house price maxed out, wife and husband cannot take over 50% on housing loans , carloads will take another 10 to 15 %, the rest for children, practically saving minimal..
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Why not sure? Father open business one..

Ever heard saying "No see straight face also see buddha face"? Means he no enuf power now but also need see behind him who support lah...

And mr.student will say he will die if property crash but dunno behind got who support

Edit: forgot..car loan 3years coz father wan him got exp paying loan. wan noe car brand also? audi or peugeot i forgot..kenot put out too much info liao la even if this is interent.

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post Nov 11 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 11:59 PM)
need 2 generation support buy properties... and needed a 1.5 million sumore, father business man, already guarantor, finish the favour lar... not ppl will not talk bad about them, father guarantor or father borrow loans, ppl where got time to segregate for them..

2 fella need 1.5 million, not enough credit need father support? come on lar.. opt for below 1 million lor , too much lar 1.5 million Goodview baru 728k... ur relative must be sipeh ai face..

all staying together is different storey..
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kl prime area is that price lo...sumore parents, relatives sumtimes visit will stay there..but ur 1st paragraph I no understand.

Oh ya..forgot. Gf side also loaded...
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post Nov 11 2014, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Nov 11 2014, 12:11 AM)
People already said the father is rich businessman lar. This u still dont understand. Even the son no pay, the father also can fully paid up the house lar.

U really never see richman b4....doh.gif
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Don't know which part he failed to understand. Law grad sumore.. doh.gif
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post Nov 12 2014, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Nov 12 2014, 10:04 AM)
Didnt kena halau meh??? tongue.gif

aiks.....home ground actually
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Soon property talk might have big sign stated "No Bear Allowed" laugh.gif
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post Nov 14 2014, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(kradun @ Nov 14 2014, 10:29 PM)
Nah bear2, good article to share with u..

Warren Buffett’s house is the same house he originally bought; but it was not a financial investment in the sense that Warren’s goal wasn’t appreciation in value. Warren bought a house he could afford, and has called it one of his best investments because, “My family and I gained 52 years of terrific memories with more to come.”

http://www.howtofinancemoney.com/2014/10/r...ize-wealth.html
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Ah bear buy for appreciation not memory, family all those sentimental things no use to bear.

QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 14 2014, 10:49 PM)
Studio vs No house

Ah Bear Kradun has house & wife leh, What you have ??
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>10k joint income, property market crash, dead chicken and alot more.
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post Nov 15 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 15 2014, 12:12 AM)
i wanna ask any bros here have high-rise going to vp soon cheras area?

I am looking one...
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You actually want buy how many house? 10,000 unit?

WTF...looking for 1 hourse but go survey from KL->Klang->Selangor->Dunno farking where....

QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 15 2014, 10:34 AM)
Normal mah ! Usually thread only active during soft launch, official launch, number game, then while construction usually quiet one till almost VP & after VP, renovation time & rental time & flipping time.

Now construction time what to talk about ? Unless been delay lah.

U see OUG Parklane during construction time also quiet mah.. Link 2 for genuine buyer not for zero entry gambler mah so not so many lalat busing loh..lol
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Talk what the construction worker eat and whether they got curi ular anot.. laugh.gif
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post Nov 15 2014, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 15 2014, 07:31 PM)
He think those house buyer all sleep under bridge one, the moment vp all move in with plastic bag, no need find contractor, no need source for furniture, no need check for defects & ask developer to repair.

Not only he never buy house, I suspect he don't even had any relative & friend or co worker bought a house, maybe people don't want to tell him since he so cast eye on other who own house.

Today Ah Bear jia ka ki again, later sure fire up come to blind shooting us... tongue.gif
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The last time my family move to new house..we got to

i) Check defects
ii) Renovation...(spent some time here to decide wat to reno and contractor need time to work also. BBW must tot they only need 1day can finished everything)
iii) Clean the house
iv) Buy furniture
v) Choose date to move in (chinese mah..need see calendar and also make sure ppl are free to help)
vi) etc etc

BBW must tot the house vp only the next day all ppl move in with just 1 suitcase


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 15 2014, 07:38 PM)
party have you sort out what bcp beancounter ask you to do?
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What he ask me to do? I skip alot..u all post too fast
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post Nov 15 2014, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Nov 15 2014, 08:18 PM)
If i remember correctly, what i mean is with low salary, one should invest in himself by using the limited resources to upgrade the skill or knowledge in order to demand higher pay. Then only think of prop investment. I never look down on anyone  except those tin kosong self claim expert. Prop investment definately not for low income group.
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This is what I deduce from bcp bro...I dunno how BBW reading can come out conclusion so far one. No wonder you are special of the special here. laugh.gif

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 15 2014, 08:20 PM)
u can confirm with party, i am merely only highlighting what you said before... party, bcp allow you to talk.. seek clarification from him ok..
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post Nov 15 2014, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(**** @ Nov 15 2014, 10:07 PM)
One day, this bear bear sure regret and become a property goreng-er one . Haters-turn-to-flippers . Confirmed .

You cant beat them, please join them . Always true .  thumbup.gif
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And then that time will be too late...property going another correction and the value of his house dropped. Comes back thread and blame /k tards.

Sold his house and after sold then the price went up. Comes back and blame k/tards again. laugh.gif
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post Nov 16 2014, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 16 2014, 12:54 AM)
According to a recent study in the U.S;

If annual rental is 5% or less of the property price is a poor investment.

Those borrower need over 20 years loan tenure are over stretched.
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Then those ppl in China, HK, Japan, S.Korea, Singapore, Aus, and U.S, and basically alot more countries are over streched...They should have die long time ago.

Oh wait...prof only study front news..never researched more deeply.
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post Nov 16 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 16 2014, 11:47 AM)
May be you like to find out;
how many times property price have crashed in land scarce hk and singapore in the last 30 years.
how many years property price has been depressed in land scare japan.
how much property price has moved in the u.s since 2005.
current property market in 2nd and 3rd tier chinese cities.

Don't know whether uuu consider;
co-operatives crisis that resulted host of abandoned projects (and subsequent property price dropped) a property crisis?
abandoned duta hyatt hotel project at jalan ampang/sultan ismail junction the remain of collateral property crisis?

So called huge saving include epf. if individuals saving (i.e cash, saving, stock or any liquid assets) is huge, developers didn't need dibs, low entry cost, etc to move property.

There is no doubt every parents have some saving, most are their retirement fund. If parents have excessive saving, most would have upgrade to a better house, bought a 2nd property for rental income. Counting parents retirement funds as a contingency is family crisis in the making.

Bubble never happen previously doesn't mean will never happen currently or in the future. Most economic crisis (e.g. dotcom, subprime, tulips, kv property) occur because people thought it will never happen.
If you can't afford to buy overseas property doesn't mean others can't afford.
If one find overloaded boat will not survive stormy weather ahead, shouldn't he de board early at the port? kv property is not the only investment opportunity available.
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Lazy to reply every point so just answer u 1 point.

Go check Japan depressed house price and need how many years to clear off then come back. Google aint going to help you that much if you can't read japanese.
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post Nov 16 2014, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Nov 16 2014, 12:03 PM)
KNS, twist again! Go check your old comment, it's month ago.
So....your 200k leh? Why yesterday twist your word said don't have??? It's ok, where's your 100k since you haven't twist n say don't have?
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 16 2014, 12:05 PM)
I said bukit tunku... tongue.gif

He said 100+K reaching 200K even.

Actually we don't care if he have 100K or 100M, is the attitude of own self have nothing but like to look down on others.
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Last month he got 200k..all cash. Put in tin milo like student taught. But kena curi liao this month..That's why you all ask him to show now kenot show silent only laugh.gif
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post Nov 16 2014, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Nov 16 2014, 02:54 PM)
Oh shit....your 10k combine income getting smaller!
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 16 2014, 02:55 PM)
You still can't see the silver lining in the article after 2 days of analysis. ..sigh

Your boss really waste 5K employing u..sigh

Let me give you a hint, remember REHDA wayang kulit before our budget ? No bulldozer at the end, give incentives somemore ?
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Both student and BBW becoming more idiot. BBW say wan buy next year. Even if property down 8% but next year GST and if OPR up again he need pay more. Both their calculation failed. doh.gif
QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 16 2014, 03:07 PM)
talck cock again, Singapore no GST? meh? property price drop 10-30% geh? still drop what.. how Malaysia is immune?
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BBW..go check how much SG up and now drop then come back. Then u see SG nx year how. Dont go believe everything student tell you la. He really bring you go holland one
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post Nov 16 2014, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(**** @ Nov 16 2014, 03:41 PM)
2 years old, HDB flat in SG , brand new , already costed SGD 400k, bet bear bear is dreaming that his RM 5 k can buy that
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Student and BBW will still say drop. They refuse to accept the reality they can't buy even drop 3% but keep saying crash crash and property market takes years to bottom down.

They still dreaming let them dream liao. Even US, UK property picking up back but they keep saying history crash crash.
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post Nov 16 2014, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 16 2014, 04:20 PM)
Malaysia need to crash first before picking up? this si still speculated propertymarket
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Correction period already halfway..going to pick up back soon. You want wait when to crash?

Okay lah..let u be happy. Drop 3% more..but next year like you and student hope OPR up + GST. Price up again liao...You sure you buying?
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 16 2014, 04:54 PM)
Guess you didn't know uuu have been shooting me for advocating buying property in the u.s and u.k. is better investment than k.v.
1 or 2 scoop?
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Did you buy?

You miss my point? My point is that BBW and you even if prop price really crash like you 2 predicted you 2 would not buy and only when price up back then you realize but its late. Btw..price in US and Uk already pick up quite sometime ago only then you supported which kinda provce my points whistling.gif

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