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 Aircon Discussion v2, Continuing on from previous AC topics

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BlueBath
post Nov 19 2014, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 19 2014, 05:43 AM)
Used for motel?

Why install Pana? Later ppls keep complain won't be cooler.

York inverter do much better than it.
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* used for 3 landed residence in different location.....

* Pana brand & model selected by owner.....

* Non Inverter pana selected to coup with developers pre-installed wiring.....

* any "pana" best buy store to recommend ?

* any reliable supplier / installer from back experience ?


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post Nov 19 2014, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(BlueBath @ Nov 19 2014, 12:25 PM)
* used for 3 landed residence in different location.....

* Pana brand & model selected by owner.....

* Non Inverter pana selected to coup with developers pre-installed wiring.....

* any "pana" best buy store to recommend  ?

* any reliable supplier / installer from back experience ?
** awaiting all of your advise & suggestions.......  smile.gif
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try going to kaodim.com you can find a lot of air cond contractors there who can give you free quotes for you to compare. the response time is very fast and its easy to use also.
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post Nov 20 2014, 10:48 AM

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Any sifu here can enlighten me either the black wire is sufficient for a 2 HP Daikin non-inverter air-con?
My AC guy did this but my main con ( I engaged them differently) tell me that this black wire is not sufficient for a 2HP air-con. It might get melt in the future.




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post Nov 20 2014, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(roundboy @ Nov 19 2014, 10:49 PM)
try going to kaodim.com you can find a lot of air cond contractors there who can give you free quotes for you to compare. the response time is very fast and its easy to use also.
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nice... i m waiting for reply
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post Nov 20 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(ayako_o @ Nov 20 2014, 10:48 AM)
Any sifu here can enlighten me either the black wire is sufficient for a 2 HP Daikin non-inverter air-con?
My AC guy did this but my main con ( I engaged them differently) tell me that this black wire is not sufficient for a 2HP air-con. It might get melt in the future.
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Does matter black or white color wire..

1. Your Compressor outdoor unit must have power supply, if don't have n pull from internal at fan coil location = 3 wires.
Also fan coil need another 3 wires to connect into outdoor unit, total = 6 wires for 2 ways.

2. Indoor tap power supply = 3 wires enought for 1 way.

So just refer the specs.
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post Nov 20 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(ayako_o @ Nov 20 2014, 10:48 AM)
Any sifu here can enlighten me either the black wire is sufficient for a 2 HP Daikin non-inverter air-con?
My AC guy did this but my main con ( I engaged them differently) tell me that this black wire is not sufficient for a 2HP air-con. It might get melt in the future.
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Too small, can't, can't comment.
And depend greatly on the air cond you bought.
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post Nov 20 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Nov 17 2014, 05:16 PM)
today lazada for mastercard day. 10% off. bought 5 sharps aircond and 2 pana fan. too bad they don't have 2.5hp so have to get it from jintex
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guess what.. they cancel my order... shakehead.gif

http://www.pissedconsumer.com/post-complai...1&firm_id=74311
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post Nov 20 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 20 2014, 11:04 AM)
Does matter black or white color wire..

1. Your Compressor outdoor unit must have power supply, if don't have n pull from internal at fan coil location = 3 wires.
Also fan coil need another 3 wires to connect into outdoor unit, total = 6 wires for 2 ways.

2. Indoor tap power supply = 3 wires enought for 1 way.

So just refer the specs.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Nov 20 2014, 11:29 AM)
Too small, can't, can't comment.
And depend greatly on the air cond you bought.
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I assume the grey 1 will be the power supply, and the black wire I have no idea what's inside. My main con suggest me to get a 3 x 2.5mm wire instead of 1 x 3 core wire. He was talking on the black wire.
Let me get an image of the wire head and update here. Appreciate reply from you guys.

*another question: how to make sure the wire is certified by SIRIM and not some low grade wire from china? Just to double check. This AC contractor giving me too much prob and I started to lose faith on them.

Thanks to all the sifus notworthy.gif
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post Nov 20 2014, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(ayako_o @ Nov 20 2014, 03:08 PM)
I assume the grey 1 will be the power supply, and the black wire I have no idea what's inside. My main con suggest me to get a 3 x 2.5mm wire instead of 1 x 3 core wire. He was talking on the black wire.
Let me get an image of the wire head and update here. Appreciate reply from you guys.

*another question: how to make sure the wire is certified by SIRIM and not some low grade wire from china? Just to double check. This AC contractor giving me too much prob and I started to lose faith on them.

Thanks to all the sifus  notworthy.gif
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More cores are actually better than single core, less lost.
You can ask wireman to do the wiring, air cond man install the air cond. This is usually to do task.
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QUOTE(bengang14 @ Nov 20 2014, 11:34 AM)
They didn't anticipate anyone buying such big purchase and saving hundreds from that 10% tongue.gif
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post Nov 21 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Nov 20 2014, 03:21 PM)
More cores are actually better than single core, less lost.
You can ask wireman to do the wiring, air cond man install the air cond. This is usually to do task.
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My wires look like this
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and this taken inside the room
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Ya currently the wiremen pull a 20Amp wire for AC ppl, then the rest is taken care by the AC guy.
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post Nov 21 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ayako_o @ Nov 21 2014, 10:58 AM)
My wires look like this
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and this taken inside the room
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Ya currently the wiremen pull a 20Amp wire for AC ppl, then the rest is taken care by the AC guy.
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Looks quite decent, what's the HP for it?
Usually wireman will lay the main wire from distribution box to the place you will be installing air cond, then the air cond man may lay wire from blower unit(taking from main) to the outdoor unit.
And you not yet paint the walls, right? If yes, then you need to redo the concealing part again. The proper way is using PVC pipe to make those parts can be removed during service, not messy.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Nov 21 2014, 11:35 AM)
Looks quite decent, what's the HP for it?
Usually wireman will lay the main wire from distribution box to the place you will be installing air cond, then the air cond man may lay wire from blower unit(taking from main) to the outdoor unit.
And you not yet paint the walls, right? If yes, then you need to redo the concealing part again. The proper way is using PVC pipe to make those parts can be removed during service, not messy.
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Ok noted. I ordered Daikin 2HP non inverter running R410 gas for this.
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QUOTE(ayako_o @ Nov 21 2014, 11:53 AM)
Ok noted. I ordered Daikin 2HP non inverter running R410 gas for this.
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Sound wired, daikin non inverter got R410a?

Please check it out, if not wrong for York only.
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 21 2014, 12:05 PM)
Sound wired, daikin non inverter got R410a?

Please check it out, if not wrong for York only.
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Hmm this is what i ordered
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QUOTE(ayako_o @ Nov 21 2014, 12:45 PM)
Hmm this is what i ordered
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Ok.. Look like is York model, but with Daikin logo only.
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post Nov 21 2014, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 21 2014, 01:01 PM)
Ok.. Look like is York model, but with Daikin logo only.
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hmm but this company is one of the Daikin dealer as per listed in the official website.
Daikin didn't come with such combination?

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QUOTE(ayako_o @ Nov 21 2014, 02:06 PM)
hmm but this company is one of the Daikin dealer as per listen in the official website.
Daikin didn't come with such combination?
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Daikin already bought over York, whatever Daikin model for latest one would sharing the same York model in m'sia, but logo changed only, Inspira vs Lancer that is same story
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 21 2014, 02:17 PM)
Daikin already bought over York, whatever Daikin model for latest one would sharing the same York model in m'sia, but logo changed only, Inspira vs Lancer that is same story
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I see.. Thanks for your explanation...
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All,

anyone here can advice on their experience with ME/MHI non-inverter models?

I'm planning to get those, but several air-cond contractors in Penang are actually advising me against it, particularly due to after sales/service.. instead, they're recommending me pana/daikin/acson..

also, reason for getting non-inverter models is because I seldom use air-cond.. maybe only once a week.. important is want something reliable..

many thanks!

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