No such thing lah... My house keep it like weekend home in JB from our all Aircon switch didn't turn off at all, unless is doing maintenace..

Thunder and lightning strike also won't kena.

Unlike is uncle & anutie at home nothing to do with just simple on & off.. Later cause by PCB spoil and out of warranty the cost lagi expansive than bill in more or less Rm10 only

Well, I do know you. Whenever I say cannot, sure you will say can.

Sure you can do it, if your Aircon was window unit or old school Aircon without built in backup switch then no choice loh

Yup, you are right, that's why I use non inverter total monthly bill still way lower than your monthly bill. Using all inverter appliance but still high on utility bill.
Your lies are being busted

Hai again... You are never wrong too..

Cause we not like you..

using inverter appliance will definitely low on utility bill ... but the monthly bill still depend on ur usage... a dude using inverter aircon daily for >12hours , the bill is definitely higher than dude who use non-inverter aircon for 4hours daily ...

nevertheless , it only cost extra RM300+ for an inverter air con, i dont see why ppl still opt for non-inverter , using R22 gas ....

This post has been edited by ^Ware^wolf: May 26 2015, 08:09 AM

Nope, out of all inverter alliances in the market, only air cond's savings are significant.
Like a WM, non inverter for 10KG TL need about 900W while an inverter need 700-850W of power, but the price difference are ~rm200-400 depending on brands.

Don't get confuse..

Inverter has power stable with reduce the speed and also using DC voltage as well.

Non inverter just normal AC voltage only.

im talking about inverter aircon here...about inverter WM , they claimed that lesser vibration , quieter ....im not sure about that

Nope, what causing vibration? Is the bearing design. When your vibration are low, it will reduce noise as well.
Back to air cond, like you said, depending on usage. Both of the air cond will work hard during the first few hours(as said again, your room condition matters) and when the room are reaching the set temperature, inverter will start to reduce its output while non inverter still continue to work hard.
As for WM, direct drive's failure rate are higher and usually will be noisier, especially if your load every wash are close to the boasted capacity.

So bro , during calculation we usually take full load wattage as general assumption ?

what kind of calculation are you running?
cable size or power consumption?

One needs to understand the difference between inverter and non-inverter.

Compressor basically work the same and if proper installed and no defect in the manufacturer, all shouldn't be too noisy, according to the manufacturer's noise db published.

The difference can come from that inverter compressor has the ability to run at partial load when achieve desired condition, running at partial load or rpm, the quieter the compressor can be, as well as less wear and tear on the bearing etc.
Noise can be come from wear bearing sometimes.


It depends on the condition, inverter will run partial loan when achieving the pre-set temperature, if your room has low heat loss aka better insulation, no sun light, window leaking air, then the inverter need not to run at full load most of the time.

Inverter basically work the same with non-inverter when running full load time, particularly when the air-cond starting time that running at full load.

The saving of inverter come from ability to run at partial load, instead of non-inverter that running 100% or 0%.
Inverter doesn't automatically save your electricity, it is about how it is operating.
Compressor of inverter and non-inverter consume same amount of Watts (in fact inverter may be a little higher than non-inverter), so in full load time, there is no saving.
The saving come from the partial load period.

ah~
my pana inverter S18RKH was installed last week, then I felt the aircond was not cold compared to my S10RKH and S13RKH, called the installed yesterday and today they came to check

not surprised, the gas was not enough in the compressor, the gas was only half filled! They refilled the gas and now it's super cold

That meant they cut cost..

Inb4 never has it happen

either cut cost or the QC did not bother about the gas filled, because they know the installer has to check

anyway, no cost incurred for me as it is bear by installer

Trust me, if this rubbish happen in your favorite Samseng or Mitsubishi brand you will say differently

Sometimes the gas leaks during installation.
But the gas are cheap anyway, so as long as you are not paying, is still ok.
Mine also got this problem before, but lucky the installer stay opposite of my house

in other words may I put it this way that for non inverter unit , it is calculated as full load ? There's no partial load for non inverter unit ?

Bingo even in night time.. You will feel more suffer on listen the compressor start & stop runs until next day.

If your room close to the compressor then really don't have sweet dream anymore.

New is ok after few year later you would more hate the non inverter at all

But the design just properly suit for supersound bro.. He like to listen that noise at all :

Usually just selfish ppls who never care about thier neighborhood

This post has been edited by kimsim: May 26 2015, 02:54 PM