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post Dec 17 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 17 2014, 02:05 PM)
no. wifi cards from intel and broadcom can run at full speed with 2x antennas. normally asus laptops have 2x only.

well, wifi cards usually are not serviceable. however i think i saw a recent model that exposes it, for unknown reasons.
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G551 has it exposed and Asus Hardly use other brand aside from Atheros which made some of the Asus laptop able to run Hackintosh with minimal hardware changes.
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post Dec 17 2014, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Dec 17 2014, 02:30 PM)
G551 has it exposed and Asus Hardly use other brand aside from Atheros which made some of the Asus laptop able to run Hackintosh with minimal hardware changes.
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oh ok. didn't know this lol! i still keep the stock atheros wifi card. (the problem is i don't know what it is now haha)
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post Dec 17 2014, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 17 2014, 02:05 PM)
no. wifi cards from intel and broadcom can run at full speed with 2x antennas. normally asus laptops have 2x only.

well, wifi cards usually are not serviceable. however i think i saw a recent model that exposes it, for unknown reasons.
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I read from this about the requiring 3 antennas to go till 450Mbps per band, the 866.7Mbps should be the N900 and so I thought it need 3 antennas to work... or is it I that mistaken something here? hmm.gif
http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a...%2Fn900-mean%3F

EDIT: I think i know what i missed, the AC can reach max speed of 1300Mbps at 5Ghz with 3 antennas, so 2 antennas max at 866.7Mbps... thumbup.gif

QUOTE(riku2replica @ Dec 17 2014, 02:30 PM)
G551 has it exposed and Asus Hardly use other brand aside from Atheros which made some of the Asus laptop able to run Hackintosh with minimal hardware changes.
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Good, if they were to go with Intel card then sure will have a lot of headache... sweat.gif
Atheros is the most stable wifi adapter i've used thus far... thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by xyz_cityhunter: Dec 17 2014, 04:36 PM
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post Dec 17 2014, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Dec 17 2014, 04:21 PM)

Good, if they were to go with Intel card then sure will have a lot of headache...  sweat.gif

Atheros is the most stable wifi adapter i've used thus far... thumbup.gif
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i think it depends on your router also. so far i have no issue with intel 2230, 6235 (.n) and intel 7260 (.ac) with my router. (asus rt-ac66u)
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post Dec 17 2014, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 17 2014, 09:55 PM)
i think it depends on your router also. so far i have no issue with intel 2230, 6235 (.n) and intel 7260 (.ac) with my router. (asus rt-ac66u)
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Good that you have no issue, the issue that I can observe with 6200 series is the 5Ghz freq band while 7200 series is with the 2.4Ghz freq band. The router used is mostly Cisco at my workplace so shouldn't be any problem. I only seeing wireless issue for Intel card at workplace maybe due to the congested wireless traffic contributed by high number of wireless products... And I work in Intel... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Dec 17 2014, 10:07 PM)
Good that you have no issue, the issue that I can observe with 6200 series is the 5Ghz freq band while 7200 series is with the 2.4Ghz freq band. The router used is mostly Cisco at my workplace so shouldn't be any problem. I only seeing wireless issue for Intel card at workplace maybe due to the congested wireless traffic contributed by high number of wireless products... And I work in Intel... sweat.gif
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lol! work place is work place. usually the network infrastructure will not be as good as at home. (in my office i seldom reach 200Mbps tbh. since it's a work place i don't care much, as long as i can access the resources that i need. yeah it's congested all the times)
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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 17 2014, 10:15 PM)
lol! work place is work place. usually the network infrastructure will not be as good as at home. (in my office i seldom reach 200Mbps tbh. since it's a work place i don't care much, as long as i can access the resources that i need. yeah it's congested all the times)
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I mean like I test both Intel and Atheros at that workplace and Atheros perform better than the Intel, better ping and higher throughput... sweat.gif Maybe too much Intel wireless signature there so using some other brand turn out can get better response there... tongue.gif

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post Dec 18 2014, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Dec 17 2014, 11:03 PM)
I mean like I test both Intel and Atheros at that workplace and Atheros perform better than the Intel, better ping and higher throughput... sweat.gif Maybe too much Intel wireless signature there so using some other brand turn out can get better response there...  tongue.gif
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right smile.gif

some people at rog.forum complained about atheros and even called it names lol it's like everything at home (phones, laptops, etc.) can connect to the ap, except for atheros.

as long as i can swap it with other cards when needed, it's not an issue.



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Is the battery for the G751jt removable or built in?
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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Dec 17 2014, 11:33 AM)
G751 over the G750 of course, from my previous survey is that the G750JM (GTX860M) RSP is RM4999 while the newer G751JT (GTX970M) RSP is RM5499, if you can manage with the extra RM500 then the G751JT should be the better deal with newer and better GPU (Lost at the SSD as G750 is 256GB while the G751 is 128GB). Although there're still some problem with the G751 model (Read it from http://rog.asus.com/forum/forumdisplay.php...ming-Notebooks) but it seems like it can be solved with software updates so should not be critical... I'm also monitoring for the G751JT  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Also looking into these 2 models, but i'm still 2nd guessing which one to get. My concern now is that g751 battery seems not removable, do you know if this is true or not?

G750 price is too expensive for the specs (gpu still gtx860m), would you suggest to get g551 instead and just upgrade?

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post Dec 18 2014, 02:15 AM

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actually now if have 5k+ budget should go for illegear s5 or asus g751?
cause the price range like quite near
and same gtx 970m but 1 is 15 1 is 17
the main concern is weight if weight sure is s5 better
but mind share some user review or feedback of asus g751?
the asus g771 just gtx 860m no gtx 970m card?

This post has been edited by silrave: Dec 18 2014, 02:21 AM
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post Dec 18 2014, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(gin347 @ Dec 18 2014, 01:51 AM)
Also looking into these 2 models, but i'm still 2nd guessing which one to get. My concern now is that g751 battery seems not removable, do you know if this is true or not?

G750 price is too expensive for the specs (gpu still gtx860m), would you suggest to get g551 instead and just upgrade?

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Yeah, the G751 battery is not removable. As for either going with G551/G750/G751 would depends on your budget and needs. I go for the 17inch for the dual 2.5" bay (remove the optical and add caddy then i can get 2 SSD and one HDD inside), and since the price between G750JM with G751JT is just RM500 apart which I can manage my budget higher to get better specs then why not... thumbup.gif
All boils down to your needs (What sort of feature you need in your laptop, mobility?) and budget (How much you're willing or able to spend), think carefully as this would be the final time you get to buy a laptop without having to pay with GST... sweat.gif

Oh, one note about the G750 versus G551. The difference is that G551 is slimmer design with single Fan. Not sure if the G750JM will have the MXM card for its' GPU but most users is very happy with the dual fan configuration when putting the laptop under load with heavy games... But that is just my opinion, you better survey around or else later you felt got duped by me... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(silrave @ Dec 18 2014, 02:15 AM)
actually now if have 5k+ budget should go for illegear s5 or asus g751?
cause the price range like quite near
and same gtx 970m but 1 is 15 1 is 17
the main concern is weight if weight sure is s5 better
but mind share some user review or feedback of asus g751?
the asus g771 just gtx 860m no gtx 970m card?
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G751 can read at http://rog.asus.com/forum/forumdisplay.php...aming-Notebooks
It's not perfect but it's getting there... still some software problem at the moment it seems...
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Haha I have change my mind on aftershock w15
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post Dec 18 2014, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Dec 18 2014, 12:16 PM)
Haha I have change my mind on aftershock w15
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Well that have escalated quickly... sweat.gif
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post Dec 18 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Dec 18 2014, 10:16 AM)
Yeah, the G751 battery is not removable. As for either going with G551/G750/G751 would depends on your budget and needs. I go for the 17inch for the dual 2.5" bay (remove the optical and add caddy then i can get 2 SSD and one HDD inside), and since the price between G750JM with G751JT is just RM500 apart which I can manage my budget higher to get better specs then why not... thumbup.gif
All boils down to your needs (What sort of feature you need in your laptop, mobility?) and budget (How much you're willing or able to spend), think carefully as this would be the final time you get to buy a laptop without having to pay with GST...  sweat.gif

Oh, one note about the G750 versus G551. The difference is that G551 is slimmer design with single Fan. Not sure if the G750JM will have the MXM card for its' GPU but most users is very happy with the dual fan configuration when putting the laptop under load with heavy games... But that is just my opinion, you better survey around or else later you felt got duped by me...  tongue.gif
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hahahaha.. thanks for yhe insight bro.. actually i set my budget for g551 only but since i got extra cash coming in i thought of future proofing my purchase and the g751jt was a definite choice, only downside was the non-removable battery.

last night i was doing the math, if i get a g551jm+256ssd+caddy just a few more i can get a g750jm without having the need to use a caddy.

found a deal for g551: (rm3999)
+portability (15" screen + weight is less 3kg)
+screen is ips
+gpu 4gb ddr5
+ram 12gb
-no dual fan
-need to change odd if want hdd+ssd combo

for g750, only found deals online:
+dual fan
+256gb ssd+1tb hhd (no need caddy)
-weight about 4+kg
-tn pannel only
-gpu is gtx860m 2gb only
-about +500 you can get g751jt already

any g551 users that can give insight on this? i really want to get my 1st gaming laptop before end of this month. smile.gif
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QUOTE(gin347 @ Dec 18 2014, 03:20 PM)
hahahaha.. thanks for yhe insight bro.. actually i set my budget for g551 only but since i got extra cash coming in i thought of future proofing my purchase and the g751jt was a definite choice, only downside was the non-removable battery.

last night i was doing the math, if i get a g551jm+256ssd+caddy just a few more i can get a g750jm without having the need to use a caddy.

found a deal for g551: (rm3999)
+portability (15" screen + weight is less 3kg)
+screen is ips
+gpu 4gb ddr5
+ram 12gb
-no dual fan
-need to change odd if want hdd+ssd combo

for g750, only found deals online:
+dual fan
+256gb ssd+1tb hhd (no need caddy)
-weight about 4+kg
-tn pannel only
-gpu is gtx860m 2gb only
-about +500 you can get g751jt already

any g551 users that can give insight on this? i really want to get my 1st gaming laptop before end of this month. smile.gif
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Actually for the GPU memory, if you're not using multiple screens then you won't need the 4GB version... icon_idea.gif
And another insight on using caddy, do assume that the laptop power is designed in mind that it will only power one HDD/SSD along with the optical drive instead of our custom 2 HDD/SSD combo. I faced this problem on my current laptop where SSD at bay while HDD in caddy, the HDD might become not responding at random time, ranging from a few times a day to one times per month... Self customize laptop will bear some risk so it is ourselves to bear when we choose to go with customization... sweat.gif

Some reading for the VRAM vs Multiple screen: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon...y6,2595-11.html
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/...4GB-Memory-154/

This post has been edited by xyz_cityhunter: Dec 18 2014, 04:02 PM
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post Dec 18 2014, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 17 2014, 12:29 AM)
hopefully it will be here. g771 looks decent. the difference of this model and g751 is that it comes with m.2 slot with proper mounting.
1. of course. the gpu of g751jy is a 980m.
2. as for the best deal, g750 is likely to be your only option for now. it's unclear that g751jy will be available here.
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*My eyes are sparkling man* When it available? Gonna buy it before new semester starts (around February) sad.gif
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post Dec 18 2014, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(gin347 @ Dec 18 2014, 03:20 PM)
hahahaha.. thanks for yhe insight bro.. actually i set my budget for g551 only but since i got extra cash coming in i thought of future proofing my purchase and the g751jt was a definite choice, only downside was the non-removable battery.

last night i was doing the math, if i get a g551jm+256ssd+caddy just a few more i can get a g750jm without having the need to use a caddy.

found a deal for g551: (rm3999)
+portability (15" screen + weight is less 3kg)
+screen is ips
+gpu 4gb ddr5
+ram 12gb
-no dual fan
-need to change odd if want hdd+ssd combo

for g750, only found deals online:
+dual fan
+256gb ssd+1tb hhd (no need caddy)
-weight about 4+kg
-tn pannel only
-gpu is gtx860m 2gb only
-about +500 you can get g751jt already

any g551 users that can give insight on this? i really want to get my 1st gaming laptop before end of this month. smile.gif
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Huh? G551 is IPS DISPLAY?
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post Dec 18 2014, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(xyz_cityhunter @ Dec 18 2014, 12:32 PM)
Well that have escalated quickly...  sweat.gif
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lol! human mind biggrin.gif

QUOTE(AceDeatH @ Dec 18 2014, 04:59 PM)
*My eyes are sparkling man* When it available? Gonna buy it before new semester starts (around February) sad.gif
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sorry this i don't have an answer for you hehe

after playing with laptops for some times, imo there is no such things as 'future proof' in laptops (or technologies in general). things that are relatively closer to that term will cost you extras.

particularly for gaming, low and mid-tier gpu power is not strong enough to survive a year if you wanna play demanding game titles. if you intend to use it for gaming, high-end models with juicy gpu's are your options. the shelf life of the high-end gpu performance can last 2 to 3 years max. (using mid settings in the last year to make some new games still playable) by that time new and more powerful gpu's are out, and you repeat the cycle. with the same amount of money, it's much better to game with desktops.

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