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post Jan 24 2020, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Vivato @ Dec 31 2019, 04:52 PM)
Is Panasonic GX650 tv series currently the best bang for buck?
I can't find the review for this tv.

https://www.lazada.com.my/catalog/?q=panaso....255644d2ZADSO9

Pros
- Affordable price
- android tv
- chromecast built-in
- HDR10 and Dolby Vision

Cons
- Not sure coz no review
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I'm interested with this TV too but like you, there is no reviews I can find anywhere on the internet made me hesitate to buy. I'm looking for a 4K TV to upgrade to Astro Box. Astro Box requires 4K TV with HDCP 2.2 but not sure whether this TV has it or not. Did not mention on its specs https://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...h-49gx650k.html
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Anyone here owes FX700? How do u get 4k gameplay on ps4? My TV dont seem to turn on 4k mode despite trying out dif tv setting. Does the HDMI port 1 &3 have the same output and both 4k enabled ?
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post Feb 24 2020, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(ruzaini88 @ Nov 6 2019, 02:45 PM)
Guys, I just bought 55GX800 1 week ago.

If there is any GX800 current/upcoming users I am open for discussion smile.gif

Overall quite satisfied with it! Bang for the buck.
The only thing that made me sad is there is no Atmos support in Netflix.
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Hi, mind to share how much u got it?
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post Mar 5 2020, 09:19 AM

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not sure should i go with 65 or 55inch for gx800
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GX800 users. How to know if local dimming is working. My back light seems to be turning on all the time. I tested it using local dimming test in YouTube.

The backlight on this TV needs some taming.
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post Apr 1 2020, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(sadaniel @ Mar 31 2020, 07:42 PM)
GX800 users. How to know if local dimming is working. My back light seems to be turning on all the time. I tested it using local dimming test in YouTube.

The backlight on this TV needs some taming.
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Hey, u got ur TV already? That's fast.
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post Apr 1 2020, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(JUSTmee @ Apr 1 2020, 04:20 PM)
Hey, u got ur TV already? That's fast.
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post Apr 9 2020, 02:23 PM

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Hi all sifus.. i kinda noob in the led, plasma, lcd tv thingy.. kinda need help on selection tv advice.. i'm looking into replacing my 6 years old sharp led tv.. wife insisted on panasonic so final decision with my budget is 49".. but not sure which 1 should i go for 49GX600K or should go for the 49GX650K (can't seem to find review on this) ..btw movies, (mostly) astro and some gaming.. any recommendations? Tq tq

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post Apr 10 2020, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(mao2 @ Apr 9 2020, 02:23 PM)
Hi all sifus.. i kinda noob in the led, plasma, lcd tv thingy.. kinda need help on selection tv advice.. i'm looking into replacing my 6 years old sharp led tv.. wife insisted on panasonic so final decision with my budget is 49".. but not sure which 1 should i go for 49GX600K or should go for the 49GX650K (can't seem to find review on this) ..btw movies, (mostly) astro and some gaming.. any recommendations? Tq tq
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Is she paying for it or you? get the GX800 series
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QUOTE(StevenL @ Apr 10 2020, 10:40 AM)
Is she paying for it or you?  get the GX800 series
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Nope i'm paying haha.. GX800 series only available starting with 55" right? Seems out of my budget range 😅 .. kinda tight within this mco period.. did see its in 43 & 49 in hk market.. btw tq for the reply
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post Apr 10 2020, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(mao2 @ Apr 10 2020, 01:50 PM)
Nope i'm paying haha.. GX800 series only available starting with 55" right? Seems out of my budget range 😅 .. kinda tight within this mco period.. did see its in 43 & 49 in hk market.. btw tq for the reply
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49"? forget panasonic, buy samsung Q60R QLED TV. While stock last. Much better than average mid range to lower range tier.
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post Apr 10 2020, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(myxery @ Apr 10 2020, 03:53 PM)
49"? forget panasonic, buy samsung Q60R QLED TV. While stock last. Much better than average mid range to lower range tier.
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I see.. used to have samsung monitor previously serve me well.. but sure will look into it.. thank you for the recommendation
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post Apr 11 2020, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(sadaniel @ Mar 31 2020, 07:42 PM)
GX800 users. How to know if local dimming is working. My back light seems to be turning on all the time. I tested it using local dimming test in YouTube.

The backlight on this TV needs some taming.
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how is the tv bro in term of performance, clarity but I hear it support dolby vision and atmos and more over got usb 3.0? how much you bought this tv and where?
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post Apr 11 2020, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Apr 11 2020, 03:51 PM)
how is the tv bro in term of performance, clarity but I hear it support dolby vision and atmos and more over got usb 3.0? how much you bought this tv and where?
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I found out that this tv does have local dimming, but its only limited to left and right side of the screen. watching sdr video + true cinema mode, you hardly notice the back light. but in HDR/DV, true cinema mode will switch the backlight to 100. i wont recommend to watch this tv in total darkness, unless ure ok with the backlight during dark scenes.

Yes it does support Dolby Vision + Atmos. DV and HDR on an LED TV is arguably pointless due to limited contrast ratio. But its nice to have them popping up on the screen when watching Netflix movies that supports them. I never tried Atmos on TV speaker as I connect this TV to an Atmos receiver so all the sound processing goes to the receiver.

I bought at Lazada for RM2999 from Maxi E Store, not sure if they got stock or not. Its the cheapest for this model anywhere ever.
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post Apr 11 2020, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(sadaniel @ Apr 11 2020, 04:45 PM)
I found out that this tv does have local dimming, but its only limited to left and right side of the screen. watching sdr video + true cinema mode, you hardly notice the back light. but in HDR/DV, true cinema mode will switch the backlight to 100. i wont recommend to watch this tv in total darkness, unless ure ok with the backlight during dark scenes.

Yes it does support Dolby Vision + Atmos. DV and HDR on an LED TV is arguably pointless due to limited contrast ratio. But its nice to have them popping up on the screen when watching Netflix movies that supports them. I never tried Atmos on TV speaker as I connect this TV to an Atmos receiver so all the sound processing goes to the receiver.

I bought at Lazada for RM2999 from Maxi E Store, not sure if they got stock or not. Its the cheapest for this model anywhere ever.
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It doesn't , none of the GX800 variant has local dimming .
What you are noticing has nothing to do with local dimming but the backlight system of the TV .

This is an edge-lit TV , which tend to demonstrate many of the flaws you mentioned above in a dim/dark viewing room . Also the fact that it has an IPS screen (which means it has a poor contrast ) doesn't help either .


IPS TV are typically recommended in a decently lit room because human eyes can hardly notice the changes on black level when there are ambient light sources around .


There are several new Full Array Local Dimming TV models landing in Malaysia this year , ranging from the very anticipated Sony X90H to Samsung's Q80T and Q95T , all models will be available from size 55 " and above for the first time in MY.
I predict there will be a significant price drop compare to last year .


QUOTE(myxery @ Apr 10 2020, 03:53 PM)
49"? forget panasonic, buy samsung Q60R QLED TV. While stock last. Much better than average mid range to lower range tier.
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They are both mid-range TV , except Samsung likes to overhype on their Quantum Dots displays when they can barely utilize its benefits .


The GX800 is compatible with Dolby Vision though so that is a plus .

The 49" Q60R is also kind of crappy since it was downgraded to 60 hz .

This post has been edited by Convael: Apr 12 2020, 05:16 AM
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post Apr 12 2020, 03:37 AM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Apr 11 2020, 11:34 PM)
It doesn't , none of the GX800 variant has local dimming .
What you are noticing has nothing to do with local dimming but the backlight system of the TV .

This is an edge-lit TV , which tend to demonstrate many of the flaws you mentioned above in a dim/dark viewing room . Also the fact that it has an IPS screen (which means it has a poor contrast ) doesn't help either .
IPS TV are typically recommended in a decently lit room because human eyes can hardly notice the changes on black level when there are ambient light sources around .
There are several new Full Array Local Dimming TV models landing in Malaysia this year , ranging the very anticipated Sony X90H to Samsung's Q80T and Q95T  , all models will be available from size 55 " and above for the first time in MY.
I predict there will be a significant price drop compare to last year .
They are both mid-range TV , except Samsung likes to overhype on their Quantum Dots displays when they can barely utilize its benefits .
The GX800 is compatible with Dolby Vision though so that is a plus .

The 49" Q60R is also kind of crappy since it was downgraded to 60 hz .
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This TV does in fact has Local dimming but its only limited to two zones, left and right, split in the middle. It would be frame dimming but since it has more than 1 zone, its still considered local dimming, technically. It's also mentioned in the specs. It's a bit misleading though.
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post Apr 12 2020, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(sadaniel @ Apr 12 2020, 03:37 AM)
This TV does in fact has Local dimming but its only limited to two zones, left and right, split in the middle. It would be frame dimming but since it has more than 1 zone, its still considered local dimming, technically. It's also mentioned in the specs. It's a bit misleading though.
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No , there is no fact here . The TV just doesn't has local dimming .

I think you are confused , because you see a few " columns " that lights up you are thinking it is local dimming because you have been reading some of those FALD TV has "zones " .
These are completely different things .


It is similar to what Hisense called their TV having 2 zones , 6 zones .
Those are not local dimming system , they are software based algorithm used to restrict the APL and they are not effective at all .
They can give them whatever name they have , commonly known as global dimming , frame dimming , etc etc . They don't improve picture quality.


Localized dimming system , need to do 2 things .

First , is to dim the black levels to improve contrast and thus also improving picture quality .

Second , to boost the Highlight of brighter portion of objects objects to improve the Dynamic Range of the picture .

A Full Array Local Dimming can do both , an Edge-lit based Local dimming TV can only brighten the picture .
We have had great Edge-lit local dimming TV before , like the Samsung NU8000 which can boost brightness up to almost 1000 cd/m . GX800 does neither of this .

Also GX800 models have an edge-lit based backlight system ( not to be confused with local dimming ) , even if it has local dimming it wouldn't show up in "zones " .
Remember , the models shipped in our country is the IPS variant , it is different than most of the GX800 reviews you read from the internet.

This post has been edited by Convael: Apr 12 2020, 11:12 AM
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post Apr 12 2020, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(sadaniel @ Apr 12 2020, 03:37 AM)
This TV does in fact has Local dimming but its only limited to two zones, left and right, split in the middle. It would be frame dimming but since it has more than 1 zone, its still considered local dimming, technically. It's also mentioned in the specs. It's a bit misleading though.
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QUOTE(Convael @ Apr 12 2020, 11:05 AM)
No , there is no fact here . The TV just doesn't has local dimming .

I think you are confused , because you see a few " columns " that lights up you are thinking it is local dimming because you have been reading some of those FALD TV has "zones " .
These are completely different things .
It is similar to what Hisense called their TV having 2 zones , 6 zones .
Those are not local dimming system , they are software based algorithm used to restrict the APL and they are not effective at all .
They can give them whatever name they have , commonly known as global dimming , frame dimming , etc etc . They don't improve picture quality.
Localized dimming system , need to do 2 things . 

First , is to dim the black levels to improve contrast and thus also improving picture quality .

Second , to boost the Highlight of brighter portion of objects objects to improve the Dynamic Range of the picture .

A Full Array Local Dimming can do both , an Edge-lit based Local dimming TV can only brighten the picture .
We have had great Edge-lit local dimming TV before , like the Samsung NU8000 which can boost brightness up to almost 1000 cd/m .  GX800 does neither of this .

Also GX800 models have an edge-lit based backlight system ( not to be confused with local dimming ) , even if it has local dimming it wouldn't show up in "zones " .
Remember , the models shipped in our country is the IPS variant , it is different than most of the GX800 reviews you read from the internet.
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Panasonic Malaysia Site highlight support Local Dimming.
https://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...h-65gx800k.html

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This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 12 2020, 12:37 PM
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post Apr 12 2020, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Convael @ Apr 12 2020, 11:05 AM)
No , there is no fact here . The TV just doesn't has local dimming .

I think you are confused , because you see a few " columns " that lights up you are thinking it is local dimming because you have been reading some of those FALD TV has "zones " .
These are completely different things .
It is similar to what Hisense called their TV having 2 zones , 6 zones .
Those are not local dimming system , they are software based algorithm used to restrict the APL and they are not effective at all .
They can give them whatever name they have , commonly known as global dimming , frame dimming , etc etc . They don't improve picture quality.
Localized dimming system , need to do 2 things . 

First , is to dim the black levels to improve contrast and thus also improving picture quality .

Second , to boost the Highlight of brighter portion of objects objects to improve the Dynamic Range of the picture .

A Full Array Local Dimming can do both , an Edge-lit based Local dimming TV can only brighten the picture .
We have had great Edge-lit local dimming TV before , like the Samsung NU8000 which can boost brightness up to almost 1000 cd/m .  GX800 does neither of this .

Also GX800 models have an edge-lit based backlight system ( not to be confused with local dimming ) , even if it has local dimming it wouldn't show up in "zones " .
Remember , the models shipped in our country is the IPS variant , it is different than most of the GX800 reviews you read from the internet.
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Dimming on LED TV by definition is simply the dimming of your TV backlight to improve black levels. That's it. Local or not.

From your story above, it's just a way of saying what is the better method of local dimming available. As if local dimming has a set of standards that needs to be achieved to even legally call it local dimming. I never even recalled any professional TV reviewer said about this. If there is, please show it to me.

And second, brightness level boosting/HDR is a different story. Dimming only describes one thing, how well the backlight dims during dark scenes. Hence the word "dimming" , software based or whatever. That's it. Don't get your facts twisted.

To be fair, Vincent TEOH@HDTVtest did concludes the tv BARELY has any local dimming. I understand this because the local dimming only has two zones. He didn't say no though. I'll eat his word at any given day.

This post has been edited by sadaniel: Apr 12 2020, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(sadaniel @ Apr 11 2020, 04:45 PM)
I found out that this tv does have local dimming, but its only limited to left and right side of the screen. watching sdr video + true cinema mode, you hardly notice the back light. but in HDR/DV, true cinema mode will switch the backlight to 100. i wont recommend to watch this tv in total darkness, unless ure ok with the backlight during dark scenes.

Yes it does support Dolby Vision + Atmos. DV and HDR on an LED TV is arguably pointless due to limited contrast ratio. But its nice to have them popping up on the screen when watching Netflix movies that supports them. I never tried Atmos on TV speaker as I connect this TV to an Atmos receiver so all the sound processing goes to the receiver.

I bought at Lazada for RM2999 from Maxi E Store, not sure if they got stock or not. Its the cheapest for this model anywhere ever.
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How is this tv performance for 4k movies, it is still need android box like Himedia?

May I know this tv is what energy stars ratings 4 or 5?

Is this tv can same performance like sony x70 or x80 series?


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