Why? You think you can run away and live happily ever afterin another country without paying your debts? Geez, people think of all ways of not paying back what they owe others.
Does Singapore banks use CTOS for Malaysians
Does Singapore banks use CTOS for Malaysians
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Oct 18 2014, 12:15 AM
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Why? You think you can run away and live happily ever afterin another country without paying your debts? Geez, people think of all ways of not paying back what they owe others.
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Oct 18 2014, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 12:24 AM) People owe money also got to live right, not that I utang anyone, it is just that i pity some people with hardship, don't you care? Lets say one day you need a huge amount of cash to pay for your medical and live, would borrowing and unable able to pay would class you as a bad person??? Think man, it may happen to you one day too, never gamble with your faith. So have a heart Welcome to the real world dude. When you signed the papers to borrow the loan, didnt you plan how to pay it back? If you are unable to pay back, then dont agree with the terms and conditions and dont take the loan. What if everybody thinks like you and hope to get away to get away with not paying back the loans, financial institutions will go bankrupt. This is typical Malaysian mentality, like those who who took PTPTN loans and demand the government waive their debts because they are bumiputras? If the loans dont get paid back, how would the government hae the money to loan to future PTPTN borrowers just because of your selfishness.To answer your question about medical bills,you can always patronize government hospitals. The government has provided adequate budget for medication and hospitalization. But of course if you opt for private hospitals, then be prepared to pay for it. Even till now, i have dumbarses come ask me, " Saya sudah blacklist, boleh buat loan lagi?" . My answer would be simple, ‘Hutang lama kau pun tak bayar, pinjaman baru kau akan bayar ker?'. This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Oct 18 2014, 09:48 AM |
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Oct 18 2014, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 02:27 PM) Why you so sibuk other people business, like they borrow your money. Like I said in my earlier post that some people are desperate because of a good reason, like they are sick or someone they care need medical, therefore it takes whatever to get the cash for medical. You seem to portray yourself like a very ethical person, however with no sense of humanity, again i remind you, HAVE A HEART. If you have a heart, then why not you help these people settle their loans so that they need not be blacklisted? The law is the law, you dont pay then you get blacklisted and sued for bankruptcy. Whatever the excuses and reasons are.This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Oct 18 2014, 02:33 PM |
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Oct 18 2014, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Oct 17 2014, 11:55 PM) hehehehe...technically yes Yes, you can go to AKPK, but once you dealt with AKPK, which the record will appear in your CCRIS, all banks will "NOT" approve any loans because you dealt with AKPK. Why do I know? I deal with a lot of banks and a lot of smart alecs went to AKPK and got their loans directly rejected.but AKPK will act as a middle man between yourself, financial institute(bank) and insolvency dept so it will be more easy to negotiate between them... QUOTE(wizard83 @ Oct 18 2014, 09:59 AM) Ram is using ctos backbone also lol. They didnt stop using CTOS, because the government instructed them to stop using CTOS, doesnt mean they stop using. They will use it as a referral and will decline your loan based on other reasons but not on CTOS records.Also they cannot simple do ctos check on people. Need customer consent then only can. Thats why bank requires u to sign a form to allow them to do a credit check. Alot of banks start to stop using ctos already. QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 02:37 PM) If you don't know how to debate other than repeating my statements please just stop writing. You know you sound like a...mmmm...what's the best word to describe you...mmm QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 12:14 AM) If I am a bloody lawyer i will help people for free to sue them for defamation Looks like its you who is lost for words. For calling people a lilttle kid, look at your own statements above. You wanna sue the banks for defamation for blacklisting a loan defaulter? Which "tempurung" are you from and what law do you apply? Law Of the Jungle? |
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Oct 18 2014, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 02:27 PM) Why you so sibuk other people business, like they borrow your money. Like I said in my earlier post that some people are desperate because of a good reason, like they are sick or someone they care need medical, therefore it takes whatever to get the cash for medical. You seem to portray yourself like a very ethical person, however with no sense of humanity, again i remind you, HAVE A HEART. Before calling me a racists, can you tell me who or rather what race are the majority of the PTPTN loan defaulters? I am just stating the bare facts which you aren't able to accept.And please mind your words and stop making defamatory statements, WHAT DO YOU MEAN .... "What if everybody thinks like you and hope to get away to get away with not paying back the loans, financial institutions will go bankrupt. This is typical Malaysian mentality, like those who who took PTPTN loans and demand the government waive their debts because they are bumiputras? If the loans dont get paid back, how would the government hae the money to loan to future PTPTN borrowers just because of your selfishness." Please mind your words, do not make wild and false allegation or assumptions without any justifications. Just for this statement I am able to judge you. You sound like a bloody RACIST!! UPDATE: Tomei, Just went through most of your posting, seems you dislike Malaysia and the nice people here right a lot. Probably are one of those "ALVIN" gang type This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Oct 18 2014, 02:56 PM |
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Oct 18 2014, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 02:41 PM) "The law is the law" ha ha ha...even the highest judge in the world do not go around saying as such. If the law is the law, then we do not require judges to make the best judgement and decisions pertaining to a law. Come on lah, speak more intelligently 'lah, you are sounding very naive now. Judges are here to judge based on the law, and not based on emotions. Can a judge deliver a judgement based on his emotions and not sending a person into bankruptcy because of whatever "your said emotional" reasons? This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Oct 18 2014, 02:59 PM |
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Oct 18 2014, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 02:59 PM) Hey dude, please read carefully. I am not against the banks or any bank. My statement was referring to CTOS and they are not a bank. They are selling everybody's private information for profit gain, so do you think its right? Facebook also sells your information for profits, dont tell me you dont have a facebook account. |
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Oct 18 2014, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(~Slim Shady~ @ Oct 18 2014, 03:02 PM) While your some point is correct, you do sound like a typical k/tard racist. Ok. View accepted. I do agree on free education. But the main point is, you people just cant accept the painful truth which is laid out just in front of your eyes. Since when people fight to abolish loan because of bumiputra reason? Those people who fight for free education are idiot but those who fight for it not come from 1 particular race only. QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 03:05 PM) Now you wanna "loyar buruk". Have you ever been in a court proceeding before??? Guess not from your naive ways. Just for your information, read this ...http://www.cscja-acjcs.ca/judges_decisions-en.asp?l=5 Keyword 1) CanadaIn the course of a single case, a judge may make countless decisions interpreting the intent of the Charter or a piece of legislation, or applying legal principles and precedents established under the common law. If there is a Supreme Court of Canada or other higher-court ruling in that province or territory that interprets the law or deals with a similar dispute, the judge is obligated to make a ruling that is consistent with this precedent. The details of every case are different, however, and the judge may be able to "distinguish" the rulings of other courts and make a decision that breaks with precedent. And, of course, if a novel issue arises and there is no precedent to follow, the judge must craft a decision that breaks new ground but is consistent with the principles laid down in common law. Judges also consider common law precedents from other jurisdictions and countries. While not binding, these may offer guidance as to the best way to resolve a dispute. A similar approach is taken when deciding the sentence to impose on someone convicted of a crime. The Criminal Code sets out the maximum prison term for each offence and sometimes a minimum sentence that must be served in custody. The maximum penalty is reserved for the worst crimes and the worst offenders, and there is a wide array of sentencing options - discharges, fines, probation or conditional sentences served in the community. The judge must take into account the seriousness of the offence, the offender's background and prospects for rehabilitation, and the need to deter others from committing crimes. Judges also review the sentences other judges have imposed for similar crimes, to ensure the punishment is fair and fits the crime. In Canada, sentencing is not based on revenge but rather on the fundamental concepts of protection of the public, fairness, deterring others from committing crime and reforming the individual offender. Like I said earlier, you only know how to write without thinking. So sad again for you. 2) MAY offer guidance as to the best way to resolve a dispute. Already laid out in front of you. I think you have a problem with your comprehension. |
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Oct 18 2014, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 03:53 PM) TOMEI, Do you mean by joining the army, anyone can be a bumiputra? Or by joining the army makes you love your country more. Please allow me to educate you. I know you are a Chinese dude and for me, everybody are beautiful, unless once in a while you meet some idiots regardless of race. Please do understand the true meaning of the word "Bumiputera". I am sure you wish to be at par with this word, right, however to deserve and i mean DESERVE to have this status, firstly you need to become a patriot of your country and not whining behind a computer, complaining that you deserve this and that and why should the bumiputera have more, so on and so on status To get this status is not easy man. Thus, would you be wiling to fight for your country, take up arms and defend your nation, if your country is being directly invaded (i don't mean to fight internally ok)?? If your answer in YES, then please join the ARMY. Hope you get my drift. Because a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country are the rightful Bumiputeras. This is just an example, however there are more, but i am lazy to write. Therefore, please don't get me wrong, a county and a government are not the same, and if you do love your country and your fellowman, please stop complaining, go join the ARMY and come back here and demand for your status, than I will be proud of you. QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 04:08 PM) Again, why you so sibuk about PTPTN. Did you contribute tons of Tax money which give you the right to do so? If you did than probably you should run the country. Probably you are not entitled to apply or maybe rejected by PTPTN, that's why you are so so so mad, and a very frustrated guy, right. I never once mentioned the MALAY word once in my posting. Look who is being racists here? It is you who put it to yourself you need to grade yourself as Bumiputeras for whatever reasons so obvious and you have the cheek to call other people from other races RACISTS? Please dude, don't "hantam" the Malays and classing / branding them as "loan defaulters". You know why I class you as a racist, it is because of this. You think that being a Chinese, you are more ethical than a Malay guy. Come on, this is not right man. Not only Malays are loan defaulters, others too. So once again, Have a HEART and people will hear you. Do you know why most graduates are unable to pay-back their PTPTN loan because they do not have a job, furthermore if they do get one, lower salary. Why are they unable to get a job is because of the job market which is one sided. Go figure it out. Thanks to my parents who had enough funds to help me make it through university without hoping for PTPTN. I dont need one. Regarding to contributors of tax money to the country, you should know better who contributes the most and do these people get to run the country? I never mentioned I am more ethical than a Malay guy, but no matter what, I pay back whatever loans I took unlike those PTPTN defaulters. You say the job market is one sided? As an employer myself, employer, I dont employ people based on race but rather based on their capabilities, qualifications and of course work attitude. So there must be a reason why these people are not employed right? Attitude, thinking, mentality and ultimately the person him/herself. Do not take it that this country owes you anything, rather what you can contribute back to the country. This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Oct 18 2014, 04:33 PM |
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 04:31 PM) Oh my you are indeed an idiot. Whatever it is, you can try getting your lawyers or youself to go sue CTOS for defamation. That is if you have the resources and ultimately the capability to do so. You are just bringing the word DUMB and DUNSE to another whole new level. Where in hell did I mentioned "SUING THE BANKS". My statement is referring to CTOS and anyone may sue CTOS for defamation in the event that CTOS had published wrong and misleading information about a person's reputation, for example, such as a person being a bankrupt when he no longer is or not. Please get your bearing right DUDE, do you want a COMPUS? SEE YOU MADE ME TO CALL YOU ANOTHER NAME : IDIOT Calling other people name while you dont reflect on yourself really shows how shallow you are. Like Forrest Gump always say, Stupid is what Stupid does. This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Oct 18 2014, 04:38 PM |
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 05:19 PM) "Whatever it is"...ha ha ha, that means you condone that you had made a wrong statement and you are an idiot, right? QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 05:26 PM) How come you change topic???? Now CTOS and lawyers. You were angry with the Malays for defaulting loans right and now one big "U" turn. Guess you realise that you ain't that superior right. Change what topic, you were the Nitwit that wanted to sue CTOS. Not me you Moron. I wasn't angry with the Malays for defaulting. I was angry with the DEFAULTERS for not paying their loans and demanding it be abolished. Why do you people like to bring in race when you are cornered and claim others as being racists? Why not you join Perkasa and Ibrahim Ali and his antics and start blaming everyone else for your own failures.Yeap agree that forest gump's statement suits you. |
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 06:16 PM) You susah hati ke if i sue CTOS...hey MYOB dude...anyway....should I now call you a liar? Respect for you? Do you deserve it? You command respect not DEMAND for it you RETARD. Why should I give a damn about respect on a low life moron like you. If you think Im rude and have no respect for you, Do you want a piece of me? Make sure you are damn up to it.All had been written in STONE and you can deny as much as you want, however everybody can clearly read your earlier remarks about PTPTN loan defaulters in which you had clearly meant the Malays, even your statement on Tax contributions are also discriminating, furthermore most of your other posting in this forum can be deem as racists remarks too. You want me to point them OUT???!!!! Just say YES and I would be glad. By the way, you should have stick to the topic of this posting, however from the very first beginning you decided to bring out other irrelevant matters to the topic, furthermore accusing me for being a loan defaulter. WHO GIVES YOU THE BLOODY RIGHTS TO GO AROUND THIS FORUM AND MAKE UNJUSTIFIABLE REMARKS ABOUT OTHERS!!! DO YOU EVEN KNOW ME TO JUSTIFY YOUR WILD ALLEGATIONS? YOU ARE ONE BLOODY BIG BULLY, RIGHT. This was your initial remarks in this posting...can you remember... Why? You think you can run away and live happily ever afterin another country without paying your debts? Geez, people think of all ways of not paying back what they owe others. Wasn't that statement rude and with no respect for me. So now don’t play the innocent game. Shame on you idiot. SEEeeeee....even this statement from you show how racist you are.... Why not you join Perkasa and Ibrahim Ali and his antics and start blaming everyone else for your own failures. Does it relate to this topic?????? Guess not . Don't make me start a topic...IS TOMEI-R A RACIST? Start whatever threads suits you. WHO gives a damn about a freakin low life moron nincompoop like you. Who gave you the bloody rights to go around making unjustifiable remarks about my post either? If you are not a loan defaulter, why make like you are by getting offended. Siapa makan cili, dia yang terasa pedas. This post has been edited by TOMEI-R: Oct 18 2014, 07:25 PM |
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QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 08:20 PM) Didn't your parents teach you to respect others regardless whosoever, even a stranger you bloody fool. Guess not and that's why you are a bloody "kurang ajar". Piece of you....ha ha ha...wow now you talk like a "taikow"...your name AH HAI huh!!! now you wanna boxing huh...since cannot challenge my comments and remarks, did i hurt your feeling Since you are so eager to defend yourself, let's start a post to justify your low racist character, I will published every racist remarks and statements you have mentioned in this forum and I shall call some UmmmKNOW..WHO boys to review your RACIST REMARKS. Won't be in this forum, anyway. Wanna try dude? See whether you berani....come on...just say YES. please say YES By the way IDIOT, your statement was not a GENERAL statement but made directly towards me (the publisher of this post), for sure I am offended. What a shitheadidiot Why? You think you can run away and live happily ever afterin another country without paying your debts? Geez, people think of all ways of not paying back what they owe others. Hey idiot, you like to go around offending others right, now its your turn.... QUOTE(edbravo @ Oct 18 2014, 08:40 PM) COME ON LAH TOMEI-R from KUALA LUMPUR...just say YES and we can start the ball rolling COME ON LAH.... Why your balls suddenly shrink huh? Don talk like a kid hiding behind that small computer screen. Pm me your number and let me call u since I think your prepaid will be out of credit. We will see how man you are in real life.UPDATE. its 9.06pm, come-on lah taikow, just post yes and I can make my move UPDATE. its 10.02, still chicken shit to answer |
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