That's good. At the end of the selection, do remember to take note of the amp required because you need to buy the switch/socket for it

For eg, the rinnai induction hob is 8kWh or 8000W. So 8000W / by 230 or 240V = 33 or 34A for the power switch rating. Which means you need to get at least 45A DP switch socket for the stove alone. I think 6mm dedicated wiring is probably good enough for the stove switch as your power rating is higher than mine although induction is energy saving.
This is because normal wiring used for other sockets in the house cannot withstand the heat from the power load for the stove and can blow or in worse case, catch fire? So do ensure that you have a set of wire mainly for stove, a set for hood, and a set for built in oven if any. No sharing with other appliances either.

Im not sure about the hood as I never use a hood before.

This post has been edited by S'aimer: Nov 9 2014, 08:22 PM

It's better you look at the amp rating for the model you choose, then enquire with the electrician on whether 6mm wiring is sufficient or not. When you buy the switches from the hardware shop selling switches, check with the man on the switch that can handle the amp rating.

Was looking at your choices.

I would feel that if I have a child or elderly parents staying with me, I will focus on safety and security functions first, the quality of stove and lastly budget too. The brand will come later. I am firm in getting european made appliances because the performance is stable based on experience, although I am not opposed to getting asian made appliances either.

Based on my requirements, I think Electrolux models, EHET66CS & EHED63CS have the safety and security functions and the fact electrolux is european made? Rinnai comes 2nd. For Teka stove u shortlist, there is no mention of the safety lock etc.

Price plays a big factor in this as well primarily because of the main reasoning that appliances have std 1 year warranty and it will not be well justified to spend so much with this in mind that the lifespan really varies with maintenance and usage. Additionally, so many new models come on the market just like how TVs are priced high and later discounted heavily when new models appear.

I don't know how much are you willing to spend on the stove though.

EDIT: I just saw your teka shortlist choice has a safety block which can be said to be child safety feature and useful for cleaning purposes as well. So Teka can be placed at 2nd place already. The power rating is at 6400W, not that high as Rinnai's if you consider electricity usage.

Teka has a 45cm 2 zone hob but price wise, I saw it is RM2975.



This post has been edited by S'aimer: Nov 9 2014, 11:51 PM

Saw this 2 zone hob at xammax

http://www.xammax.my/teka-induction-hob-ir-421.html

If you want to get from xammax,you can get RM50 voucher to discount the price.

http://www.xammax.my/blog/get-rm50-coupon-...share-our-page/

and also the free gifts for purchase of RM1200 and above here.

http://www.xammax.my/blog/select-free-gifts/

Yes 3-4 zone hobs will have higher wattage. If you look at the specs closely, sometimes 2 bigger zone will have higher wattage than the other 2 smaller zones in a 4 zone induction hob. But the total wattage is calculated if you add all the wattage of the 4 zones. It just depends on your cooking preference. Do you need a 2 , 3 or 4 zone hob?

For e.g., the Teka 2 zone hob I just posted above, is 4800W while your teka shortlisted choice is 6400W.

One of the Electrolux models is 7400W and the other one is 6400W

For electrical wiring, you need to check how much is the 4-6mm wiring? Based on my electrical quote, a 4mm wire is RM150. Take this as a base estimate (Price will differ by area so I don't know how is it in KL side) and you can ask for some discount or negotiate for a lower price if you engaging electrician to do all your wiring?

I calculated the wattage for the Teka IR421 at 4800W but when I checked the technical specs.

It says here that 1 Ring Ø250mm 3.0kW, 1 Ring Ø145mm 1.8kW which is a total of 4.8kW or 4800W but the description further says that the nominal connection rating is 3.2kW or 15Amp.

So to be on the safe side, you can get a switch with rating of 20Amp and thicker wires at 6mm because 4800 / 230-240V = 20Amp

Bro, I'm confused now?

I calculated the total wattage of all 4 zones of my vitroceramic hob and it matches the nominal rating stated for the hob.

How is it that yours is different?

I checked the total wattage of the IR421 and it is at 3.2kW / 4.8kW based on the wattage in description although nominal rating is at 3.2kW

This post has been edited by S'aimer: Nov 10 2014, 06:24 PM

Teka VCTM

Hmm? My old vitroceramic hob is ariston but I cannot use both zone at same time to cook due to amp. This is in a apartment flat.

Not sure about the new hob now but as far as I am concerned, my electricity bill have not hit Rm50 for the past 2 months since I moved in.

Relax! Just choose what you are comfortable with?

The 45cm Teka IR421 is not big or small either, you have extra 15cm of countertop space.

If you see it differently,

The overall wattage of the stove will also impact electrical bill based on usage. Is it daily or once in a while?

As Career26 mentioned she is intending to do light cooking which equates to not that frequent cooking in my opinion of what is frequent and what is not so frequent. which is why I think a 2 zone hob is good for her usage pattern.

But if it's frequent, then a 3 zone hob is enough.

Try measuring 45cm vs 60cm with a measuring tape on a table. You can have a better idea of whether it is small or not.

The promotion price for RM3188 is for both? I doubt you can get 2-2.5k for induction hob as induction hobs are more expensive than vitroceramic hobs unless there is a sale on. Speaking of which, christmas is coming up and there could be a christmas sale?

I'm a night owl so no worries.

2-3 times a week would be infrequent because there are 7 days in a week. So it would be 4-5 days without cooking

If 3-4 times a week, it would be in between infrequent and frequent considering, it would be 3-4 days without cooking.

If you cook 4-5 times a week, that would be frequent because it would be a long time affair with the stove and fridge due to food stock up and the no of zones to prepare a fast meal.

Regarding the teka stove n hood from xammax. If you got RM50 voucher from xammax to offset the total price, you can think of it as this.. RM2625-RM50 = RM2575 which would then be less of a stretch on your maximum budget for stove by RM75 only because the hood is cheap.

It would depend on how well you maintain & use the hob.

My old vitroceramic ariston hob is already close to 7 years and still working! It has seen frequent cooking as well and only 1 time, the fuse blew but that was fixed and no other problem came up that required me to call ariston's service centre either.

Ya depend on luck & usage pattern?

I choose not to seal the hob sides to my countertop because if have problem, can take out. It's fuss free. Need to make sure the hole is a proper fit

This post has been edited by S'aimer: Nov 11 2014, 10:10 PM

For me, I never had to seek advice from my electrician for my hob wiring before purchasing the hob

Usually electricians should advise you on the wiring type after you have purchased the hob so that he knows the power rating for it.

But as halcyon27 asked about your condo period, then it is better to check with the condo management on the wiring as they should know best whether the wiring is meant to accommodate high or low wattage for electrical hobs or appliances.

Unlike landed property where owners can plan and even add new electrical setups, it is different for condos due to building restrictions and limitations regarding renovation because firstly the whole block is on same water supply, piping lines etc and probably similar electrical lines. Also maintenance for water supply and electrical supply is usually handled by the JMB for the condo if I am not mistaken. It might differ or vary among the management for each condo though.

Looks like you have 63A for your DB (can the others confirm this too?)

Based on your electrical layout, you do have electrical points for aircons, heater (20A gang switch, but no 15A switch socket faceplate because the aircons and heaters have their plugs for 15A switch sockets while the 20A gang switch is like a relay to turn on the aircon or heater)

Isn't a 10mm better?

She haven't decided yet. Still considering between a 2 zone and a 3 zone or 4 zone induction hob at the moment.

But I assume that, cooking hob, hood will need dedicated wiring and if not a built in oven, there is a possibility of a table top microwave or microwave with convectional function in future???

That i know on the no sharing part.

Only thing is.. A 2 zone hob is 4800W while a 3 and 4 zone can be anywhere between 6000-800W for nominal rating.

That's why I ask if 10mm is best although 6mm might be good enough?

Bro, you should read back the last few pages.

Career26's shortlisted choices have nominal power connection of 6400-8000W although not confirm on her final choice

Most induction and vitroceramic hobs have high W depending on the no of zones.

Assuming we do not utilize all, maybe 3 out of 4 zones for example... Still will be up to 4000-5000W as an estimate so 4mm can carry all max? Lol that's why asking whether 6mm is enough or 10mm still better?

Gas would be cheaper but there's space constraints in the kitchen and her hob size must be 60cm. Hardly see 60cm gas hobs which is limited. That's why induction hob next alternative.

This post has been edited by S'aimer: Nov 13 2014, 11:17 PM

I think it is not a problem for her as she is single and doing light cooking?

If u decide on a teka model, can ask them to reserve for you 1st and get the dimensions for it.

30cm is also fine but you won't be able to use both zones at the same time to cook because the zones are spaced closely and not ideal for for using big and small utensils together. The old hob Im using before is a 30cm.

Hm the current wiring is new if your place is a recent project, but it would be good if your electrician checks that the wiring is properly done for peace of mind because some developers can cut material quality to save cost. Ensure your electrician is a good one, not the type to BS and chop carrot fast)

Since you need to put in new wiring dedicated to cooking hob, you need to check which side is the hob's wire on? Left or right side because the hob's wire which is the wire for plug but without a plug..needs to be run underneath and out of the cabinets side if necessary to connect to the wall socket outside.

The location of the socket is as important since your KC maker will need to work around it for the hob.

What else am I missing out?