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Investment SETIA ECOHILL (VERSION 10), An Inspiring Eco Township in Semenyih

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post Oct 21 2014, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 21 2014, 03:57 PM)
small potato only..please ask other...many hidden dragon crouching tiger here...
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 21 2014, 03:55 PM)
Doom doom boss.. milionare club later..upon selling next 7-8 years to come.

dun forget us in LYN.. we may not born same time.. butwe commented in LYN.. right.. in a friendly way..
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Palm walk that he always complain also give good return to him at least 100% plus other property in paper he is millionaire
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QUOTE(treehill @ Oct 20 2014, 08:54 PM)
Doom kor, if me own stay i prefer the last row. Less car and and less noise with more privacy. Really dunno why ppl dont like it
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Treehill, the last 3 rows are the lowest elevation as the land slants downwards towards the south.
Every row is lower than the row north of it by about a foot or so.
I went late that day to book and my unit is 2nd last row near PE. Sigh.
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post Oct 21 2014, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Jen1 @ Oct 21 2014, 07:20 PM)
Treehill, the last 3 rows are the lowest elevation as the land slants downwards towards the south.
Every row is lower than the row north of it by about a foot or so.
I went late that day to book and my unit is 2nd last row near PE. Sigh.
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No wonder behind 1 not much ppl buy... Maybe it wont be that bad. At least u have better privacy.
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post Oct 21 2014, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 21 2014, 03:47 PM)
not need jealous...lots of taikor at here....just work smart and invest smart instead of complaint here there east west up and down...
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post Oct 21 2014, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(hello-hello92 @ Oct 21 2014, 04:00 PM)
Palm walk that he always complain also give good return to him at least 100% plus other property in paper he is millionaire
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so far, this palm walk is not only in paper, but in turth this price will goes, maybe he sold it already since it is so bad..

for semenyih to reach those price in paper possible vp only reach di, but buyers, look at Tropicana cheras, cheras idaman 1 & 2 and TTDI kajang, rotting since then.

the only selling point was the "township concept" , only successful if occupiers are many , just too many choices along that stretch all the way to Semenyih and many example too.. to distinguish one as better, really takes a lot to do

why no one compare southville @ bangi by Mahsing vs SP? both heavyweights are worthy of comparing, both also outskirt , both also township..mahsing so dead? seems like sp more famous with active forumers
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 21 2014, 09:48 PM)
so far, this palm walk is not only in paper, but in turth this price will goes, maybe he sold it already since it is so bad..

for semenyih to reach those price in paper possible vp only reach di, but buyers, look at Tropicana cheras, cheras idaman 1 & 2 and TTDI kajang, rotting since then.

the only selling point was the "township concept" , only successful if occupiers are many , just too many choices along that stretch all the way to Semenyih and many example too.. to distinguish one as better, really takes a lot to do

why no one compare southville @ bangi by Mahsing vs SP? both heavyweights are worthy of comparing, both also outskirt , both also township..mahsing so dead? seems like sp more famous with active forumers
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Southville > SEH ???
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 21 2014, 09:54 PM)
Southville > SEH ???
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didnt conclude, just wonder, how can they have missed another big township development ? pros & cons? surely will be labelled as southville agents..
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 21 2014, 09:55 PM)
didnt conclude, just wonder, how can they have missed another big township development ? pros & cons? surely will be labelled as southville agents..
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 21 2014, 09:54 PM)
Southville > SEH ???
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Depend on how good the developer to excecute on it...

So far Mah sing do not have proven record to developer a succecful township...i mean tonwship....not the smalle scale project...

Sp setia able to developer setia alam to very succesful stage in just 10 years period...


Another bad example is SHL, sungai long starterd since around 90, until recently 5 years price only start to pick up....about 20 years history just can match setia alam performence...SHL is poor in developing a township....sg long become what is today because the population is growing and the demand for landed is increasing...

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 21 2014, 10:08 PM)
Depend on how good the developer to excecute on it...

So far Mah sing do not have proven record to developer a succecful township...i mean tonwship....not the smalle scale project...

Sp setia able to developer setia alam to very succesful stage in just 10 years period...
Another bad example is SHL, sungai long starterd since around 90, until recently 5 years price only start to pick up....about 20 years history just can match setia alam performence...SHL is poor in developing a township....sg long become what is today because the population is growing and the demand for landed is increasing...
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SP Setia become a Legend after Tan Seri Liew left.........now they oni BTS kaki.....


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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 21 2014, 09:48 PM)
so far, this palm walk is not only in paper, but in turth this price will goes, maybe he sold it already since it is so bad..

for semenyih to reach those price in paper possible vp only reach di, but buyers, look at Tropicana cheras, cheras idaman 1 & 2 and TTDI kajang, rotting since then.

the only selling point was the "township concept" , only successful if occupiers are many , just too many choices along that stretch all the way to Semenyih and many example too.. to distinguish one as better, really takes a lot to do

why no one compare southville @ bangi by Mahsing vs SP? both heavyweights are worthy of comparing, both also outskirt , both also township..mahsing so dead? seems like sp more famous with active forumers
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Township concept draws many benefits;
1. Developer will improve connectity by building highway, ramp etc. connectivity improve value of the whole land parcel.
2. Township allows developer to fully leverage the land usage. The better land in the parcel will be used for commercial development, up market residential whereas the lower deem value locations in the parcel will be used for low cost housing, sewage etc.. The value of the land is fully exploited for the sake of the township. Take for example sunway development in bandar sunway, there is mall, university, hotel, grade A office, theme park, convention centre, hospital etc.
3. As much as purchaser is worried for early phase purchase where the township is still in an infant stage, the developer will have equally high commitment to deliver the project. Why? They have vested interest to sell subsequent maybe 20 to 30 phases to recoup their investment of buying the land. They to have bridging loan to repay.
4. Every subsequent phases usually would be priced at a slight premium over the earlier phase
5. Town beautifications. This process will continue until the last parcel is sold. Why same point as point number 3.
6. Amenities, commercial, school etc are typically planned in the township.

To make things concise, imagine you are given a huge parcel of land. How would you want to unlock the hidden value of this land? That's what the developer is doing. The question is not whether values will be unlocked or stone will be left unturned. It is how much would it be?

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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 21 2014, 10:11 PM)
SP Setia become a Legend after Tan Seri Liew left.........now they oni BTS kaki.....
Game Over ??  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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It's too early and unfair to judge by now how SPS will turn out post LKS era.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Oct 21 2014, 09:55 PM)
didnt conclude, just wonder, how can they have missed another big township development ? pros & cons? surely will be labelled as southville agents..
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I think Southville is a good project.

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Oct 21 2014, 10:54 PM)
It's too early and unfair to judge by now how SPS will turn out post LKS era.
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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Oct 21 2014, 10:08 PM)
Depend on how good the developer to excecute on it...

So far Mah sing do not have proven record to developer a succecful township...i mean tonwship....not the smalle scale project...

Sp setia able to developer setia alam to very succesful stage in just 10 years period...
Another bad example is SHL, sungai long starterd since around 90, until recently 5 years price only start to pick up....about 20 years history just can match setia alam performence...SHL is poor in developing a township....sg long become what is today because the population is growing and the demand for landed is increasing...
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I see where you are coming already, the subsales price should follows as well in Semenyih right? magic number comes into play
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QUOTE(mtdavedeli @ Oct 21 2014, 10:54 PM)
Township concept draws many benefits;
1. Developer will improve connectity by building highway, ramp etc. connectivity improve value of the whole land parcel.
2. Township allows developer to fully leverage the land usage. The better land in the parcel will be used for commercial development, up market residential whereas the lower deem value locations in the parcel will be used for low cost housing, sewage etc.. The value of the land is fully exploited for the sake of the township. Take for example sunway development in bandar sunway, there is mall, university, hotel, grade A office, theme park, convention centre, hospital etc.
3. As much as purchaser is worried for early phase purchase where the township is still in an infant stage, the developer will have equally high commitment to deliver the project. Why? They have vested interest to sell subsequent maybe 20 to 30 phases to recoup their investment of buying the land. They to have bridging loan to repay.
4. Every subsequent phases usually would be priced at a slight premium over the earlier phase
5. Town beautifications. This process will continue until the last parcel is sold. Why same point as point number 3.
6. Amenities, commercial, school etc are typically planned in the township.

To make things concise, imagine you are given a huge parcel of land. How would you want to unlock the hidden value of this land? That's what the developer is doing. The question is not whether values will be unlocked or stone will be left unturned. It is how much would it be?
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choosing cheap land acquired cheaply and outskirt is a good bank, at least if fail one would not burn that much..

much is said, developers township are really a moving factor, gotta thank the banks and investors/property owners, without them procuring loans and paid it to developers, there wont be huge, modern developments and not to forget huge debts as well.

no money no move.. Mahsing is not not bad right, thought heard rumors that they are have cash problem, launch here take cash put elsewhere.. kind of thing

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QUOTE(treehill @ Oct 21 2014, 07:39 PM)
No wonder behind 1 not much ppl buy... Maybe it wont be that bad. At least u have better privacy.
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better privacy = burglary. if wanna have privacy go condo top floor.
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What is BTS?
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