hey guys. i have been requested to build mobile app.
But i dont know how to price it,in another word how to charge them?
is the price for native,hybrid and cross-platform same?
price for android,iOS, other same?
usually how much do you charge(developers)?

Estimate the time needed to complete it. Then count it with ur current pay per hour rate. Ofcoz need to include additional fee eg. license, hosting etc.

Ask your client to list down the complete requirements and flow first then determine roughly how much time you need to spend on the development then based on your rate and give them a reasonable quotation.

Its more based on user requirements than other things else...
For example, login page. After login, go to the main page listing the product list.
Click the product list, can go to the product details page...
Then the admin even can upload or delete image...
All of these are REQUIREMENTS and you charge for this. You can go further until for login, you encrypt both username and password during submission...

Yea man, not all projects just pure mobile app.


If got backend php + mysql database you need to take those into consideration as well.


Any real client who wants to develop mobile app that isn't a 'branding' expenditure will require backend interface and you might not be working all by yourself and if you have to, you will be building the whole backend too.


All depends on requirements in detail.

the thing is i dont know the normal rate. first time actually. so how much does people charge?
5k? 10k? or if the app client side only rm2,000. if include backend rm5000?
i worry that i overcharge
please

We really unable to tell you unless we know how much time you will have to spend on the development.

I just give you an example on how you can roughly calculate the cost:

Let's say you are now working in a full time job with about 40 hours per week (8 hours x 5 days). Your monthly salary is RM 4500.

Let's say you have the complete requirements and the flow, you estimate that you will need 2 weeks of time (or 80 hours) to complete the project.
Assume there are 4.5 weeks in a month.

Your rate per week is RM 4500 / 4.5 = RM 1000.
So, the project cost should be at least RM 1000 * 2 weeks = RM 2000.
But since this is a one time off project and they do not offer you any benefits such as insurance and allowance. You should charge more than RM 2000 (eg: RM 2500).

Don't be afraid to be taken advantage of when you are still building up your portfolio. You will learn from experience and increase your rate in the future when your clients trust you.

This post has been edited by mobileoop: Sep 26 2014, 07:16 PM

thanks mobileoop.

Usually how long does it takes to develop an app? Just a standard app with a simple database background?

What database? The internal database like SQLite (preferred only for offline apps) or
at the backend web service which is using MySQL hosted in the PHP powered with
Apache server where Internet connection always needed?
Both are standard apps actually and most apps need Internet connection.

This post has been edited by M_Shahrul: Sep 27 2014, 01:54 PM

Yea. Lets take a standard app has a backend using MySQL hosted in the PHP powered by Apache server where internet connection is needed. How long does it takes to develop it? like HungryGoWhere.

rm6k

Usually I take one week if just for a simple apps. Easy for me.

The question is quite subjective as it depends on how good is the developer and also the complete requirements from the client. If it is just a prototype app that gets data from server and displays on the app, it can be developed within a week time.

I have received a few requests to build a "simple" XXX app. After I try to get more requirements from them on what do they expect to see on each of the pages of the app, that's when you will understand the complexity of the app. Usually, they will have many tiny requests like: When I tap on this button, it should animate the whole screen and etc... I should be able to swipe the top of this screen and the the next screen will be ....

Phew.. I actually have to spend a lot more time on those tiny requests rather than the main function itself. Some of those tiny requests can not be developed easily due to some technical challenges. The clients do not understand the technical challenges and thought those requests can be implemented easily.

The funny thing is I actually received a request to build an app like HungryGoWhere. I told him honestly that HungryGoWhere can not be built easily and it has been build since 2006. It is almost impossible to replicate exactly like HungryGoWhere with limited time and limited budget. I told him that if he wants me to develop the app for him, he has to give me the complete requirements or divide the requirements into a few phrases. I can help him to develop from another phrase to the next. Without those requirements or a clear scope, I am not going to take the projects as the scope of the project can be limitless.

If you ask an app developer to build HungryGoWhere app for you (without a complete requirements/clear scope) is almost like asking a web developer to build a Facebook for you.

Got also request like that.i said phpfox.you dont have money.Yes sometimes customer keep delaying by asking detailing non functional requirement instead of real businese flow objective.Sometimes hard for me to argue tiny part like this.Tiny seem but it can uber complex or changed the whole system flow.

And the funniest part is - mobile programming sometimes make it harder the code of just to swipe some interface elements...
Haha. I have done it in Apple iOS and yea, it sucks. Thank God I managed to make it works... Babi sungguh, phew!! I really depend on my programming experience if the clients want some fancy-fancy things...
Dude, sometimes with the amount and intelligence of programming that I have done, Im thinking I should work in f**kin Microsoft like a truly professional. Haha!!

Exactly. Those small tiny details things are the hardest to implement. The entire navigation/flow of the apps might need to alter just because of those "tiny" requests. That's the reason the complete requirements with the complete flow and expected actions for each screen is very important. Without that, I rather not taking the project.

100% agree. Mobile development is not like creating a powerpoint slide. Those gesture recognisers and the transitions animation from one screen to another might be hard to implement. But, most clients who are new in this industry will not understand those technical challenges.

quick question.
how about the hosting of the mobile applications?
how many types are there and how much do they roughly cost for an average app that requires constant internet connection?
and if an app only needs internet/gps connection like tinder, does the cost differs by much?

I believe u not suit the job yet.
1. You dunno how to quote prices means u dunno where u standing n ability of ur self too.

2. You aint businessman yet,

3. You cant simply calculate the cost base on ur personal salary, cause u dealing with human, flexi, complication n bla bla

Just work out with pr or start low to earn business with out burden .


For example a local bangla can quote me rm 10k for simple cms (web), local student quote me rm 5k but i outsource to usual software house for rm 800.
Is not their ability, is the job n skill, bangla think malaysia is rich n can chop . . . .
Student think other can charge 10k why not they charge 5k but they lag of the ability n responsible to complete it. They told me each day they delay, they fine them self rm 50 (0.1%), is the best from them but standng on client site will said this is bs . . . .





This post has been edited by SonnyCooL: Nov 2 2014, 04:05 AM

Don't fake it .student don't understand term retention.y wannabe business.

fake what ? i bet u understand business a lot ..... and i don't sorry

this is true

some of them made 10k as the lowest quotation

good luck.paid peanut got monkey lor.maybe not native unless want to out of business.

it might be good.
if they do it via phone gap or intel xdk
it might bad if performance is out of....

** last 2 week i meet some freelance in penang complain a shop with exabyte.. paid 400 something want to do website ask this those this those.. unless exabyte paid cheap for developer or aka internship.. hmmm
** i once used exabyte.. it dam very tense... moved to digital ocean.. unstable singapore route.. so now official use azure..

You can go to this site and convert it to MYR for each feature you need to know the cost. http://howmuchtomakeanapp.com/

Subsequently I tried off this company service for my own company apps. their service are quite ok for me. http://mobiletechadvisors.com/

This post has been edited by darkdolphin: Mar 25 2020, 02:46 PM

do the requirement engineering, then do feasibility studies. then calculate the manpower wages.

Hello susubiskut,

First of all, you should decide between local development (if you have your own team) or outsourcing app development.

Both methods have benefits for you:

- Local: it's easy to communicate with your team face to face and I think you will be more involved in the process of development.
- App development company has a high level of expertise and could make your app faster. But, the price of app development depends on geographical location. So, you need to take it into account.

Moreover, the complexity of your app affects the time of development as well as price.

Also, I suggest that you read this good research on app development cost - https://www.cleveroad.com/blog/how-much-doe...o-create-an-app

Hope my answer will help you!

are you working at this cleveroad? as in the same place as another who thought that when ppl in this forum talk about cost, they're thinking in USD? as in this guy here? https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=86827657

Yes, the cost of app development they calculated in USD

well, just to let you know, then people talk prices here in this forum, they're talking in MYR, not USD

The cost will be based on a few things (complexity, technologies, developers experience, estimated time)
Below you can find the approximate number of hours for creating an app. You can multiply it by the hour of work cost and you will get average cost of app development

I had such type of problem when i have started to create apps) You can contact this company https://clockwise.software/ and ask a question about all stages of development. Also it depends on how many stages of development and promotion you will take over. You can try by yourself marketing and cut the price of the product) what kind of application do you want to run?

It can cost you a lot of money, but it depends on multiple things. You should read about 12 benefits pf xamarin cross-platform app development at https://headworks.io/blog/12-benefits-of-Xa...app-development, that would be a great start. I hope that it will help you to create an app that you want. This blog will help you if you're going to get help.

Hello susubiskut,

Initially, you should decide either you require an in-house team or you will hire outsource development team because both matters while hiring a mobile app development team.

Local Team give you benefits more as compared to the outsource team but both teams have different cost calculation method.

I would like to recommend you if you are in the UK then you get project information from there - https://www.goodcore.co.uk/services/mobile-app-development/

I already developed one app from this company and they are very professional in term of working.

This app cost calculator helps you to get an average budget in USD but you can convert it to MYR (1:0,239)

You can try this special App development cost and find out how much it would cost + execution time
You can see some options like for Android, IOS, Hybrid or web app.

depends on the scope of the project. But if i need to come out with a number, i will usually estimate the time it need to complete (/hr x 150%) + expenses (server etc) + licensing fee. Also try to see if other company or people does similar project and see how much they charge, and get an estimate range from there.

https://mnurdin.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-an-app/

Cool thread. Thanks a lot for the infos.

^this

Before starting to calculate the approximate cost of your future mobile app you need to know the essentials your application consists of. There’s a simple rule regarding app creation: the better you want your app to be, the more it will cost. Some features, can be optional, but some can be crucial. For this reason, if you want your business to run successfully, think of your application as an effective platform to represent it and not as just another budget expense.

Here you can find a full guide on the cost of website development https://anyforsoft.com/blog/website-development-cost

The major factors contributing to the cost of mobile app development include:

- What platform you choose for the app development (Web app, native mobile or cross-platform app)
- The level of expertise of the team you work with
- The set of features you confirm for the project
- The rates set for hiring and working with team experts (average rate (Eastern Europe) 30-50%)
- The project tech stack

The price for android,iOS isn't the same

Ball park how much freelancer will charge to develop iOS apps ?

Ball park how much freelancer will charge to develop iOS apps ?

Are you looking to develop a mobile app for your startup or business? Do you want to know about how much does it cost to develop an app? We have written a blog that will provide you the details about the below-mentioned questions?

Which Factors Impact Cost to Develop an App?
How to Calculate the Cost of Developing an App?
Mobile App Development Cost Based on Types of Apps
Cost to Build an App, Based on Development Stages
Tips to Reduce the Cost of Creating an App
App Maintenance Costs
First part is type of Mobile app:

Native App
Hybrid Apps3) Web App
Web App
Which Factors Impact Cost to Develop an App?

Features and Functionalities
App Platforms
Local/ Outsourced App Development
Hired CompanyCountry Where You Outsource Mobile App Development
Country Where You Outsource Mobile App Development
How to Calculate the Cost for Developing an App?

Formula to calculate app development cost
Development time x Cost per hour = Total app development cost

In this sense, the answer to how much does it cost to start an app is anywhere from $2800 to $3150.

Read in detail about cost to develop an app.

At Space-O Technologies, we offer Android app development and iOS app development, depending on your needs. Being among the app development companies we provide a free consultation to address your requirements.

Hey,

Thank you for asking. The confusion regarding where to start and how to proceed is very common. Even I had a similar issue.
The cost aspect always depends on how unique and challenging your idea would be. As you can see, many will offer a free quote or free consultation for your query. But they will not talk about the hidden part.
It is always advisable to request help with a blueprint in mind. If you start a conversation without any clear idea about what you want, some may misguide you, and you will end up with over-budget or not the product you wanted. If you are in the market to find the best development partner, I would suggest you look at the testimonials. Customers will not lie!
To get a clear idea of what the company is all about, start reading the customer success stories. How big the customer was and what they needed will tell you all about the development capabilities of the partnering firm.

GOOD LUCK!

To add further-
In order to shortlist the best mobile app development services options in the market, you may take the help of third-party review sites. There are some prominent sites like Clutch, Best Mobile App Developers, IT Firms etc, that offers honest listings and reviews. I was able to find valid partners through them. Hope this might help you.

where do you all get customers?