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Nebelung Valesti
post Jan 14 2015, 08:50 PM

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seronok baca pendapat pendapat korang.
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post Feb 24 2015, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Feb 24 2015, 05:29 PM)
great explanation


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Nice sharing.
But i remember i read somewhere about a new theory that Aisha actually 18 years old when she merried. So, i want to know if you guys read it too and i wonder how reliable the new theory is?
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post Feb 24 2015, 08:44 PM

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I have no problem and fully understand about the underage marriage. It just the new theory that i read make sense too. So i thought maybe some of you here know about it and i want to know how reliable the info. Sorry i cannot find the source of the info, but i remember i just google it.
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post Feb 26 2015, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Feb 26 2015, 11:00 AM)
http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm
This would make Asma 28 years of age in 1 A.H., the year of the Hijra, thus making Aisha 18 years old in 1 A.H. So Aisha would be 19 years old at the time of the consummation of her marriage, and 14 or 15 years old at the time of her nikah. It would place her year of birth at four or five years before the Call.

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Thanks. not the site i read before but it quoted same info i read. I remember there are more evidents from the original source incuding quote from quran as i remember.

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post Feb 27 2015, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Feb 27 2015, 11:30 AM)
Tak rasa ada direct quote from the Qur'an. Kalau ada tak timbul isu nih. smile.gif In any case I just give one link. Bab ilmu ni however we should always get from multiple source because pendapat berbeza beza. Get from multiple sources then we have better chance to decide on which is best and applicable to us base on our understanding.
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Ada. I remember. Anyway just found this site to refute the new theory i read.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Refutation_of_Mo...inst_Aishas_Age
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post Feb 27 2015, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Feb 27 2015, 04:14 PM)
Thanks. But remember you also need to re-verified the claims yourself. WikiIslam was created for a reason.  smile.gif

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Main_Page

Check the front page.  wink.gif
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yes, just like you said earlier need to verified from multiple sources. that is why i ask here if any of you guys know about it so we can share some knowledge and opinion. tapi nampaknya tak ramai yang tahu. anywhay, how reliable the wikiislam?
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post Feb 27 2015, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Feb 27 2015, 06:28 PM)
Wiki Islam ? It's made to discredit Islam.  smile.gif Not the source of information regarding Islam. Just like that anweringislam.com/org or something.  biggrin.gif They put the real soruce but make their own interpretation of them.

I usually stay away from sites that interpretes. I rather make my own.
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owh. really? thanks. but at least it quote the info that i want you guys to know. so far i read many sites that share the Maulana Muhammad Ali theory but they didnt discuss it in detail. Just like the site you share muslim.org.

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post Feb 28 2015, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(kimasapi @ Feb 28 2015, 09:45 AM)
There are plenty of verses in the Quran that talks about marriage. However I would like to quote the following for us to ponder.

[Q2:235] And (there is) no blame upon you in what you hint [with it] of marriage proposal [to] the WOMEN (Al-Nisa) or you conceal it in yourselves....

All the verses about marriages, the Quran addresses to THE WOMEN (Al-Nisa) and not to a child.
[Q4:6]  And test the orphans [in your charge] until they reach a marriage­able age; then, if you find them to be mature of mind (Rushdan), hand over to them their possessions;

This is the only verse in the Quran that talks about marriageable age. However numbers are very subjective so the Quran attached a criteria for being in a marriageable age, i.e. RUSHDAN. In Arabic it is translated as the capacity to manage one's affairs or maturity of the mind.

Can a 5 years old kid perform the above task? I doubt Aishah was so special that she was able to do all those things described above.

So let us ponder.
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my opinion. remember, no one know the exact age of aisha. and prophet will not do anything against quran. so, whether she special or not she somehow fulfill the criteria.
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post Mar 1 2015, 11:04 PM

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bunuh cicak dapat pahala, betul ke?
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post Mar 2 2015, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Mar 2 2015, 12:12 AM)
Yerp. Tp bunuh ye, jgn menyeksakan.
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QUOTE(Xnet @ Mar 2 2015, 09:05 AM)
Banyak lagi benda yang boleh untuk dapat pahala dari bunuh cicak
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Takde la. Saje tanya. Sebab masa pergi umrah minggu lepas, ada ustaz kongsi cerita pasal salah ilmu agama orang malaysia. Salah satunya bab bunuh cicak. Katanya tak ada dalil bunuh cicak dapat pahala dan cerita cicak kantoikan nabi dalan gua pun tak ada. Dia sendiri tak tahu macam mana cerita cicak tu boleh wujud. So, teringat la aku masa zaman sekolah rendah dulu pun ustaz ada bagitau bunuh cicak dapat pahala.
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post Mar 3 2015, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(kagamistar @ Mar 3 2015, 01:25 PM)
i know i may sound--ha tula kau lebihkan creation daripada creator..

i just want some support from u guys..
help me to start over again..start from beginning again..
tapi mcm terlampau paranoid to people..
i dont know how to make friend and now parents keep asking about bila nak kahwin..dah ada bf x..

i faced (still facing?) depression last year..and yeah feeling better..
but somehow sebab i love the person too much...sometimes i feel the sadness again and again..
yeah i did cried..though i thought i am okay..
maybe because i m just alone.but i keep telling myself i am not alone..
i have allah.i have parents.i have my bestfriend..
yet lastly macam useless je that mindset sebab i ll back to my hoping to the person

i did have instagram since the kaunselor told me why u must shut off ur media social..at least u have friends to talk and stalk to..then the person pun ada insta and my friend pula keep update gambar with the person although i knw my friend just want to be universal and she is on my side although she friend with the person..

i just hoping that i can let go and put faith on allah,
not thinking things that make me depress and lose myself again

i want to be better..
i dont want people/creation drag me down until i forgot that i have the creator..
i just want to be better...
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my pendapat. cuma ingatlah, kita semua ni hanyalah pemegang amanah. semua yang kita punya kat dunia bukan hak kita. hanya diamanahkan oleh tuhan sahaja. kalau tuhan tarik balik suatu amanah, maksudnya tuhan nak kita muhasabah diri dan tamatlah tugas kita.. mungkin buat sementara waktu je atau mungkin juga selamanya.
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post Mar 5 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(kagamistar @ Mar 3 2015, 09:03 PM)
i did asked...but maybe they afraid that if things not going well..i will blame them for that..so better find for urself.
im 26..thanks..thats why i think i really need to share this kind of problem in this thread rather than cupid corner.
somehow cupid corner also okay..but back to the creator..need support that remind me about the creator
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are u joining the halaqah or read by ur own....
im thinking of joining halaqah but i cant commit to attend like selalu since i have to travel a lot..
and im just an ordinary person...some halaqah is too serious kadang2..
i did read islamic books to help me..maybe because im alone thats why kadang2 fikiran tu bercelaru because i sit alone think alone..but somehow i do feel at least i m a fighter because im alone..im not the one yang depend on people dah although still sad..but at least..allah shows the sign the creation can drag u down but if u hold to allah insha allah u are on the right path..i hope im on the right track after things happened.
thanks!it is wise word..and i do hope i will stick with ur advice.i hope that in future things will get better..i may not see those things now..but at least i hope i m on right track and will not be in wrong route again..so many past mistakes.should not be repeat again in future insha allah
thanks! i did listened to the utubes also...but bila ada trigger je thats why im feeling down with other things yg make me stress juga..
but i really hope 1 day i dont care sangat what other did to me...1day i only care about what allah's commands
thats what i put my motto to be better..not perfect..just want to be better.
i met kaunselor last year sebab i do not know where to share..so i met the university's punya kaunselor.my friend said i was moderate depression-takkan nak depend on ubat2 yang bukannya keluarkan kau dari masalah kau.so find a way to buang depression tu at least...so thats one of the ways that i think i should do to get out from depression
i did share with close friends and geng....but must remember that not all them want to know ur problems dear.some of them just want to have fun like watching movies..and who cares at all what happened to u..besides i know they are working...so must be tired of listen to the same issue over and over again..
thats okay i think we are quite same...in the same boat with the same age haha.
siapa tak nak kahwin..but i do not know where to find the guy..semua pun nak zuriat and teman...

kawan laki pun boleh kira puluhan je (i mean 20orang je not like 90orang ke beratus2 kawan haha)
and im not really closed to kawan2 laki..friends ramai.but the one that closed pun dah kahwin adala.
or should i say tak ada dah.haha
im sure there must be a guy for us insha allah..that not playing around anymore..
tapi kata orang mana nak dapat kalau tak usaha...sigh..
honestly memang im indoor person also..i just can doa dipercepatkan jodoh saja yang the one that may guide me to allah...
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Mar 4 2015, 03:49 PM)
Banyak 'riwayat²' ni berasal dari kitab² Yahudi yang telah di 'Islam' kan.
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owh.. itu machiam ka..
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post Mar 6 2015, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Mar 5 2015, 04:45 PM)
Bab bunuh cicak eh ...
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menarik. tapi macam kontra je dengan pos hadis aisha yang kat atas tu. hmm.gif
mana satu betul? aisha dengar nabi suruh bunuh ke tak?
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QUOTE(seiferalmercy @ Mar 12 2015, 11:31 PM)
Apa hukum dia bela anjing untuk protection ?

Contohnya kita gi bank bawak anjing kita, gi jogging bawak anjing, kalau anak nak keluar, kita suruh dia bawak anjing, camna tu ?
Pastu pulak, kita dah bela dia lama, kita jadi sayang plak kat anjing kita, buat cam haiwan kesayangan plak
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rasanya hukum bela tu dah jelas kot.. bela jadi pet, haram. bela untuk protection, harus. Dan biasanya ada beza anjing yang dijadikan pet dengan anjing sebagai protection.
masalahnya bukan kat hukum pada pandangan aku. masalahnya pada pemahaman orang malaysia tentang hukum tu dan juga penerimaan orang melayu islam yang sangat sensitiv bab anjing ni..
bab sayang tu, kalau dah bela kena la sayang kan. tapi berpada pada la.. aku teringat cesar millan dalam rancangan pack leader ada cakap, anjing adalah anjing.. haiwan. bukan baby. layan anjing macam anjing bukan macam anak kandung..
kalau ada keperluan sentuh anjing kita bela tu, sentuh la. kalau tak ada, jangan sentuh. ni pada pandangan aku la. atuk aku dulu pun ada bela anjing jaga kebun. kadang kadang dia main lempar ranting pokok dengan anjing tu. tapi tak ada sampai peluk cium apa sume. pointnya kat sini, anjing pun ada keperluan yang kita kena jaga. nak tahu, tengok la rancangan pack leader. tongue.gif

*baru teringat bukan pack leader, tapi dog whisperer. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(jondankawan @ Mar 21 2015, 05:29 PM)
Assalamualaikum.

Hey guys. Newbie here. Have you heard / saw the video or news about Aisyah BFM and how the people reacted to her video? Just want to read our opinions about it from all of you.. Thanks in advance.
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w'salam.
i didnt watch the video but i read a news about it. imo, the reaction from the video is perkara biasa berlaku. dia mungkin ada point yang betul dalam videonya tapi cara penyampaiannya tak kena.

hudud mungkin tak boleh isi periuk nasi dia tapi mungkin boleh jaga periuk nasi dia supaya tak hilang. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Puteih @ Mar 26 2015, 02:16 PM)
Quick question,

Tunang itu sepatutnya dirahsiakan atau dihebahkan?
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apa yang aku tau. kalau ikut islam. tunang kena rahsia.
so kalau muda mudi skarang ni yang kapel tu sepatutnya kena rahsiakan la da ada gf ke bf selagi tak nikah.
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QUOTE(Puteih @ Mar 26 2015, 02:29 PM)
tapi aku ada overheard orang cakap, kalau orang tu dah bertunang, orang lain tak boleh nak datang merisik or something2. So, macam mana nak tau samada orang tu dah bertunang or not kalau di rahsia kan?
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betu la tu. dah tunang orang lain tak boleh kacau. yang aku faham la, di rahsiakan tu maksudnya tak di heboh heboh kan. bukan tak boleh diberitahu langsung. kalau ada orang datang merisik tu boleh la bagitahu. mungkin tak bagitahu siapa gf or bf secara spesifik tapi cukup la untuk orang merisik tu paham.

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Mar 26 2015, 03:50 PM)
No, but I would prefer if someone said to me Qur'an says this and that to give the source so that I can verify myself.  biggrin.gif

Saya bukan hafiz. Nowadays people easily say Qur'an says this and that, hadis says this and that. Without verification itu yang lepas gi Syria join ISIS tu.

In any case, sahih or not, hadiths are not infallible.
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interesting bro. So, mana bro tahu tunang perlu hebah dan pakai cincin? Dari quran ke?
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Mar 26 2015, 04:51 PM)
No. Ikut current mores. Nowadays dah jarang perempuan dok kat rumah saja. Lepas belajar kerja and so on even until kahwin. So pakai cincin tunang (or kahwin) is consider menghebahkan dah.

How many of us still perform the traditional risik ?
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mm.. so pada pandangan bro, kalau orang tu hebahkan tunang/bf/gf bagi satu dunia tahu pun tak apa la kan?
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Mar 26 2015, 05:02 PM)
Tak. Hebahkan tu tak bermaksud kita personally bagi tau kat semua orang.
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oh. macam tu.
sori la bro. bukan apa. cuma tengok bro reply macam anti hadis je.
kompius jugak. smile.gif

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