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post Jan 13 2015, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(pornstar @ Jan 12 2015, 04:20 PM)
Salam guys, need opinion on something.  What do you guys think of a Muslim supplying to a non-halal restaurant? I personally do can't find any issues there though I would love another opinion  hmm.gif
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I think its ok... Kan jual beli dengan bukan muslim harus...correct me if I'm wrong
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post Jan 14 2015, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jan 13 2015, 11:16 AM)
I just ignore whatever notoriusfiq statement, apparently he is here to ensure the thread get derailed.

May Allah have mercy on him.
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I get where notoriousfiq's view coming from, as i understand it. But you didnt. So you cant say that he, or anybody else here is wrong
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post Jan 14 2015, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jan 13 2015, 11:16 AM)
I just ignore whatever notoriusfiq statement, apparently he is here to ensure the thread get derailed.

May Allah have mercy on him.
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+1. realised this a bit late but not too late i think.
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post Jan 14 2015, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 14 2015, 12:47 PM)
I get where notoriousfiq's view coming from, as i understand it. But you didnt. So you cant say that he, or anybody else here is wrong
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notoriousfiq
post Jan 14 2015, 02:03 PM

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woah.. sudah ada opponent biggrin.gif I wonder berapa percent traditionalist muslims dalam /k nih.. hmm.gif

You are entitled to your opinion. Up to you (as long as you dont hurt/oppress others). If you lock your mind, only read teachings that you are used too, then how can you call that belief? How can you call that iman?

And if you really believe in this world today there is only one Islam, which is what you practice right now, ...oh my.. laugh.gif
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post Jan 14 2015, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 14 2015, 02:03 PM)
woah.. sudah ada opponent  biggrin.gif I wonder berapa percent traditionalist muslims dalam /k nih..  hmm.gif

You are entitled to your opinion. Up to you (as long as you dont hurt/oppress others). If you lock your mind, only read teachings that you are used too, then how can you call that belief? How can you call that iman?

And if you really believe in this world today there is only one Islam, which is what you practice right now, ...oh my..  laugh.gif
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salam bro, kalau ada masa pergi la pusat2 pengajian islam atau pun rujuk pada ustaz2 kat jabatan agama islam yang bertauliah.
moga bro jumpa pencerahan yang sewajarnye berkenaan permasaalahan bro tu

sememangnya ramai umat islam yang mcm bro skrg, and tak dinafikan tak semua umat islam tu ada kekuatan dan pengetahuan yang cukup luas utk hadapi orang2 yang mcm bro (compliment ye)

masa kat u pun aku pernah kena tanya mcm2 pasal islam yang kdg2 smpi buat aku keliru
and someone bgtau aku amik wudhuk, solat sunat 2 rakaat betul2, mintak Allah kuatkan iman
nabi pernah ckp, fitnah dan ujian utk umat dia akhir zaman nanti mmg sgt besar & dahsyat


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post Jan 14 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Jan 14 2015, 03:53 PM)
salam bro, kalau ada masa pergi la pusat2 pengajian islam atau pun rujuk pada ustaz2 kat jabatan agama islam yang bertauliah.
moga bro jumpa pencerahan yang sewajarnye berkenaan permasaalahan bro tu
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Thanks atas peringatan. I appreciate your positiveness walaupun kita tidak sependapat.

Tanya ustaz2, memang bagus, tapi dekat Malaysia semua pendapat yang serupa, hampir semua pun dalam Shafie. Sebab tu, aku suka baca2 ajaran2 lain jugak, selain Malaysia.

Baguslah kau banyak tanya. Sangat bagus. Itu yang patut orang Malaysia buat sekarang. Tanya. Tapi mereka takut tanya, sebab mereka percaya kalau tanya tu maksudnya menolak Islam. Jadi ramai buat taqleed saja. Just follow thier ustaz without thinking.
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post Jan 14 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(hirano @ Jan 14 2015, 12:47 PM)
I get where notoriousfiq's view coming from, as i understand it. But you didnt. So you cant say that he, or anybody else here is wrong
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Thanks for assuming that I don't understand what notoriousfiq view. I understand what he is trying to do so I choose to ignore. the very fact Muslim like you makes other muslim looks bad by assuming on their behalf. I already unsubscribe from this thread because doesn't enrich my knowledge smile.gif

May Allah have His mercy on you and me
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post Jan 14 2015, 05:03 PM

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jangan gaduh2.. baik dga lagu ni


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post Jan 14 2015, 05:28 PM

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(Al-Hujuraat 49:13)
Wahai umat manusia! Sesungguhnya Kami telah menciptakan kamu dari lelaki dan perempuan, dan Kami telah menjadikan kamu berbagai bangsa dan bersuku puak, supaya kamu berkenal-kenalan (dan beramah mesra antara satu dengan yang lain). Sesungguhnya semulia-mulia kamu di sisi Allah ialah orang yang lebih taqwanya di antara kamu, (bukan yang lebih keturunan atau bangsanya). Sesungguhnya Allah Maha Mengetahui, lagi Maha Mendalam PengetahuanNya (akan keadaan dan amalan kamu).
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QUOTE(notoriousfiq @ Jan 14 2015, 02:03 PM)
woah.. sudah ada opponent  biggrin.gif I wonder berapa percent traditionalist muslims dalam /k nih..  hmm.gif

You are entitled to your opinion. Up to you (as long as you dont hurt/oppress others). If you lock your mind, only read teachings that you are used too, then how can you call that belief? How can you call that iman?

And if you really believe in this world today there is only one Islam, which is what you practice right now, ...oh my..  laugh.gif
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Of course theres only one Islam. Islam tak berdua, bertiga, berbyk2. Di penghujung zaman akan ada 73 jalan, tp hanya satu sahaja jalan yg lurus... brows.gif
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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Jan 14 2015, 06:25 PM)
Of course theres only one Islam. Islam tak berdua, bertiga, berbyk2. Di penghujung zaman akan ada 73 jalan, tp hanya satu sahaja jalan yg lurus...  brows.gif
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Betuuuuuuuuul. Itu sememangnya pasti. Aku 100% setuju, captain obvious!

Ini lah masalah nya. Orang salah faham apa yang cuba disampaikan. Cepat sangat bertanggapan orang lain salah. Islam yang di bawa oleh Nabi Muhammad sememangnya satu.

Yang aku cakap ialah, ajaran Islam pada hari ini, banyak. Bukan hari ini saja, even sejak zaman khulafa yang pertama pun, sudah ada berlainan pendapat. Seribu tahun kmudian makin banyak lah jenis2 nya. Bukan aku cakap semua betul atau semua salah.

Harap ini dapat jelaskan keadaan.



This post has been edited by notoriousfiq: Jan 15 2015, 04:24 PM
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post Jan 14 2015, 08:41 PM

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err okay, what did i miss?
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seronok baca pendapat pendapat korang.
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post Jan 14 2015, 09:08 PM

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i think ts should update 1st post to be more informative and descriptive
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QUOTE(tentang rasa @ Jan 14 2015, 09:08 PM)
i think ts should update 1st post to be more informative and descriptive
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Tomorrow i will update the rules and regulations InshaAlllah
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post Jan 15 2015, 09:17 AM

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Islam truly a diversity religions.
Islam is not about to be an Arab.
But Islam is more on we submission to only one God.

Islam is not a extremist religions.
Islam is not about ISIS.
Islam is about peace.

Learn about Islam not from Media.
Learn about Islam not from Govt.
Learn about Islam not from Cleric.
Learn about Islam not from Individual.
But, learn about Islam from Quran.

Look at the video.
See the smile of the people.
See their diversity.
Different skin colour.
Different types of clothing.
We are not Arab with a turban and AK-47 in our hand.
We just want leave happy life.

Salam

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post Jan 15 2015, 09:28 AM

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Hi Muslims.

With all due respect, I wish to declare that I know that there are among Muslims who are not like the extremists you see in the media, but I have several questions.

We all know that Islamophobia is obviously an irrelevant prejudice towards the religion, but may I ask how does one religion, say other than Islam itself, can attain a similar amount of prejudice as today's Islamophobia?
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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 15 2015, 09:28 AM)
Hi Muslims.

With all due respect, I wish to declare that I know that there are among Muslims who are not like the extremists you see in the media, but I have several questions.

We all know that Islamophobia is obviously an irrelevant prejudice towards the religion, but may I ask how does one religion, say other than Islam itself, can attain a similar amount of prejudice as today's Islamophobia?
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First, you can see the video I post above.
The diversity among the Muslim.

The issues about Islamophobia is related with mind control.
Mind control is under the media influence.
Media from the West always portray Muslim as an Arab nomads tribe,
with turban and carry Ak-47 or rocket launcher.

Same situation in Malaysia.
Islam and politics always relate together in the media.
Non-Muslim has negative view on Islam because
the poor statement make by politician.

Besides, you can't judge a half-past six Christian
to know the Christianity.
Same logic apply to Islam, if you want to know about
Islam. Better for you to meet someone which devote
and fully understand on the religions.
Someone not influence from political movement.
We can't simply assume the mat rempit or terrorist
represent the Islam way of life.
Even not all Malay represent the good value of Islam.

Quran always wrongly interpret by the extremist.
For example, Osama just quotes the verse from Quran
relate with killing the infidel.
However, the verse quotes from Osama is not complete
and there are explanation from God which types of
infidel can be kill by the Muslim.
Osama not mention any verse about God mercy, love and
forgiven.

Same with Jihad.
Muslim wrongly interpret the words Jihad.
Jihad actually means "struggle".
There are 2 types of Jihad which are inner and outer self.
The biggest Jihad is inner self.
To battle with our inner lust and sin.
Transform our self to become a good Muslim.
The jihad to go war is the outer jihad and actually is small types of jihad.
This jihad is necessary when we be oppress by someone.
For example, people come to our land and kill our family.
However, this types of Jihad is wrongly interpret by the extremist.

The best answer to know about Islam is read the Quran.
You can read the Quran translation in English.
Islam is all about "ilm".
Ilm = Knowledge
To gain knowledge you must read by yourself.
Not blindly trust other people to tell you about Islam.

I also don't want you to fully agree with my statement.
However, you can take my suggestion to read the Quran.
To gain knowledge about Islam by yourself.

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This post has been edited by Dozen: Jan 15 2015, 10:03 AM
SUSDeadlocks
post Jan 15 2015, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Dozen @ Jan 15 2015, 10:00 AM)
First, you can see the video I post above.
The diversity among the Muslim.

The issues about Islamophobia is related with mind control.
Mind control is under the media influence.
Media from the West always portray Muslim as an Arab nomads tribe,
with turban and carry Ak-47 or rocket launcher.

Same situation in Malaysia.
Islam and politics always relate together in the media.
Non-Muslim has negative view on Islam because
the poor statement make by politician.

Besides, you can't judge a half-past six Christian
to know the Christianity.
Same logic apply to Islam, if you want to know about
Islam. Better for you to meet someone which devote
and fully understand on the religions.
Someone not influence from political movement.
We can't simply assume the mat rempit or terrorist
represent the Islam way of life.
Even not all Malay represent the good value of Islam.

Quran always wrongly interpret by the extremist.
For example, Osama just quotes the verse from Quran
relate with killing the infidel.
However, the verse quotes from Osama is not complete
and there are explanation from God which types of
infidel can be kill by the Muslim.
Osama not mention any verse about God mercy, love and
forgiven.

Same with Jihad.
Muslim wrongly interpret the words Jihad.
Jihad actually means "struggle".
There are 2 types of Jihad which are inner and outer self.
The biggest Jihad is inner self.
To battle with our inner lust and sin.
Transform our self to become a good Muslim.
The jihad to go war is the outer jihad and actually is small types of jihad.
This jihad is necessary when we be oppress by someone.
For example, people come to our land and kill our family.
However, this types of Jihad is wrongly interpret by the extremist.

The best answer to know about Islam is read the Quran.
You can read the Quran translation in English.
Islam is all about "ilm".
Ilm = Knowledge
To gain knowledge you must read by yourself.
Not blindly trust other people to tell you about Islam.

I also don't want you to fully agree with my statement.
However, you can take my suggestion to read the Quran.
To gain knowledge about Islam by yourself.

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I'm sorry, but I don't think you understand my question. I already know that being a muslim does not mean being an extremist, and I already know that full and well.

I'm asking how should other religions should be portrayed in order to attain the same kind of prejudice which coined the term, 'Islamophobia' in the first place.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jan 15 2015, 10:26 AM

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