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post Mar 26 2015, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Mar 26 2015, 05:17 PM)
Saya bukan anti hadis. Saya cuma anti pendapat yang meletakkan hadis adalah setaraf dengan Qur'an.  smile.gif Prinsip saya senang, selagi tak bertentangan dengan Qur'an saya terima jika untuk kebaikan, tak kira la Hadis ka, quote ka.
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oh macam tu.. okey.
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post Mar 30 2015, 01:34 PM

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just finish watching the video. now share with you all.

it story from revert women perspective about islam to answer why many women revert to islam compare to men.
-hijab and niqab issue
-freedom issue
-equality issue
-oppression issue
-and few other issue.
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post Mar 30 2015, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(kimasapi @ Mar 30 2015, 03:51 PM)
Theres nothing in the Quran about "Tunang".

"Bertunang" is not Islamic at all. Its a tradition.
A tradition the Malays copied from Indian culture with some Arabic influence.
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from ustaz story and what i understand. bertunang dalam islam hanyalah lafaz pasangan 'saya suka awak' dengan harapan akan berkahwin dengan orang tersebut. tak perlu saksi. cukup lafaz dua orang suka sama suka tersebut. dengan kata lain bila seseorang itu declare dia couple maka mereka dah bertunang kalau ikut islam. sesetengah orang couple biasa pakai cincin sama macam orang bertunang ikut adat melayu. jadi orang couple ke bertunang ke, tak boleh kacau la.
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post Mar 30 2015, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(iwan_smtk @ Mar 30 2015, 05:47 PM)
so it means, lagi afdal kawin terus??
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memang itu yang di galakkan kan?
tapi pada pemahaman aku, ada 3 peringkat. Tunang, Nikah dan Kahwin. Dan ada ulama berpendapat kalau dah bertunang tu sertakan sekali dengan nikah. Maka wujudlah konsep nikah gantung yang mengambil contoh kisah nabi dengan aisya yang tinggal bersama beberapa tahun kemudian selepas nikah. Nikah untuk halalkan hubungan untuk bercinta, keluar dating macam couple couple lain tapi tak tinggal serumah. Bila dah mampu dari segi kewangan dan lain lain barulah tinggal serumah.
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post Mar 30 2015, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(xein @ Mar 30 2015, 07:20 PM)
Dengan kata lain, nikah tapi masih bawah tangungan ibubapa?
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boleh juga nak kata begitu. contoh macam pelajar kolej atau uni. Tapi tak semestinya masih bawah tanggungan ibubapa. Orang bujang ada tinggal sendiri dan ada tinggal dengan ibubapa walaupun dah bekerja.
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post Mar 30 2015, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Mar 30 2015, 07:50 PM)
Ikut hukum, walaupun sudah bernikah, tp jika bapanya belum menyerahkan anaknya kepada suami, suami belum lg wajib memberi nafkah apa2.

Maksud belum menyerah itu selepas nikah, isteri balik rumah bapanya, x ke rumah suaminya.
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betul betul. thanks sebab tambah.
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post Apr 23 2015, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Apr 23 2015, 06:08 AM)
Salam Subuh.

Saja nk mintak sharing smua..

Apa itu Islam pada definisi masing2?
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islam bukan agama semata mata, ia adalah ketamadunan.
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post Aug 5 2015, 08:50 AM

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tetibe terpikir.. bila tiba imam mahdi perintah dunia.. mazhab apa yang dia akan guna?
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post Aug 20 2015, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(WinkyJr @ Aug 20 2015, 04:45 PM)
maksud keras kat situ yg aku faham adalah 'tegas' - supaya diorg hormat & x pijak agama kita
bukan xpela, xpela, xpela
tp kalau skrg kat malaysia bila kita tegas kena cop taliban, isis, close minded, barbaric

guano?
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maksud keras tu mungkin jugak boleh di ertikan dengan 'tetap hati'. mungkin jugak keras tu ditujukan kepada orang kafir yang menentang islam(kafir harbi). takpun, kita tengok dan hayati balik bagaimana nabi layan orang kafir pada zamannya dan bandingkan dengan cara muslim zaman sekarang.
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post Feb 4 2016, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Feb 4 2016, 12:22 PM)
Assalamualaikum
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Waalaikumsalam
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post Feb 4 2016, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Feb 4 2016, 12:28 PM)
last time when at sch, malay friends will say wa'alaikumsalam back to me.

but now i working, sometimes i met people and they say they cannot and not allowed to reply wa'alaikumsalam to me.

how true is that?
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Just keep beri salam to them until they reply. Kikiki..
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post Feb 4 2016, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Feb 4 2016, 01:00 PM)
my vegetarian hindu guy cooked lunch for all of us in the office. the muslim girl say she cannot eat because prepared by hindu.

true?
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Maybe she expect the guy have halal cert from jakim. Actually not religion problem. She can eat as long no non halal ingridient use.
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post Feb 4 2016, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(xtylish @ Feb 4 2016, 01:08 PM)
c'mon, vegetarian leh
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C.mon. joking only about the halal cert. Kikiki. But non halal ingredient is true. And ask your girl friend, all cooking ingredient in her kitchen at home made by muslim kah?
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post Feb 4 2016, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(awie666 @ Feb 4 2016, 01:10 PM)
same case in my office during team lunch where the food prepared by hindu restaurant...we asked for halal cert n they provided it rclxm9.gif
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Very good restaurant.
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post Feb 4 2016, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(ifourtos @ Feb 4 2016, 02:52 PM)
What if the India Vegetarian is not true vegetarian but Religion Vegetarian.
The food prepared according to Hinduism rules

Even it is Vege, Still Halal?
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Not all vege food is halal. Because some might use alcohol as a ingredient like wine. That is why it impotant to know what ingredient used.

I made some quick google about hindu vegetarian and it said that they use cow urine as the ingredient. If this true. Than it not halal. Lol.
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post Feb 13 2016, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(haziqk10 @ Feb 12 2016, 11:52 PM)
Hi all, I have a question that I hope is not offensive. May I know why is that a newborn baby is automatically consider as muslim? Isnt that is like forcing people to become a muslim. I thought we are given freewill and freedom to choose. Thanks.
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Muslim to me can be consider as a race. Malay baby come from malay parents.
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post Feb 13 2016, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(EarendurFefalas @ Feb 13 2016, 07:20 PM)
if you not muslim and stay in malaysia maybe yes
if you muslim go prayer can see bangla and african muslim and yet they got no bumi protek tongkat, so Muslim is religion and not race
yes, the baby have no choice
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Kesian you confuse.. No. Muslim ia not a religion.
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post Feb 13 2016, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(haziqk10 @ Feb 13 2016, 11:07 PM)
Why no choice? I thought there is freewill in Islam. Why must force people to be a muslim?. Isnt faith suppose to be earn and not taught?
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So for a baby cannot choose you think it a kind of forcing... Interesting.
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post Feb 14 2016, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(haziqk10 @ Feb 13 2016, 11:45 PM)
I mean why must force them to be in a religion? Let they grow up and let them choose if they want to be in religion or not. Religion suppose to be based on our faith. Not obligation.
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even the baby is call muslim baby, what is the different with non muslim baby? they call muslim baby becoz the baby belong to muslim parent. that is all. baby dont have religion. it is a normal thing for parent to teach what they know to the baby. even the parent teach what ever religion to the baby, as the baby grow up the baby still have responsibility to find the truth in every religion and choose which one they really want to embrace. i hope you look islam teaching in bigger view then malaysia islam.

anyway i hope you find the answer you looking for.
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post Feb 14 2016, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(haziqk10 @ Feb 14 2016, 01:36 PM)
Except there is no way out from Islam in Malaysia and even if there is, there is so much trouble just to change the religion from Islam. Not to mention the muslim negative views of them.
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i dont see no way out. you said, religion is about you and god. why bother authorities and religion in your i/c? negative view? it is normal even when non muslim become muslim.

QUOTE(haziqk10 @ Feb 14 2016, 01:46 PM)
A true muslim would want a full sharia since it is the law of god. I dont think its suitable for world nowdays.

For example, law regarding Zina. In Sharia says need 4 muslim man that see the actions of the Zina. How do you know if they are reliable or not? Human memory is weak. Its unreliable. There is psychology study that test the human memory. They tell lies to the tested patient how he do x-action on a certain date which he never did. And you know what, he start to believing it and even give details of that situation.
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a true muslim know which one more important to do base on quran and sunnah. full sharia law is always on the list but might not be a priority.

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