well, these questions are earthly attachments. once (if) we get to heaven, it will probably not matter anymore. besides, ain't nobody got time for that, not when you so many angels are calling you to bed , and all things you could ever want at your disposal.

Sorry, I don't watch tv anymore nowadays. What do you mean with: Zakat need to give > zakat paid

eh bro, what do they mean by fisabilillaah or pembangunan ekonomi?
i thought zakat can only be given to people who qualify as one of the eight groups?
fi sabilillaah if it means a person, who is fighting for Islam, then yes it is allowed. but fii sabilillaah in terms of pembangunan ekonomi, then should be no. zakat can only be given to a "person" right?

quote below:

Syaikh ‘Abdul ‘Aziz bin ‘Abdillah bin Baz rahimahullah ditanya, “Apa hukum menyalurkan zakat untuk pembangunan masjid yang tinggal tahap finishing dan sementara waktu pembangunannya dihentikan?”

Beliau rahimahullah menjawab,

Yang telah ma’ruf di kalangan para ulama yang mumpuni dalam ilmu dan inilah pendapat mayoritas atau kebanyakan ulama bahkan seakan-akan menjadi ijma’ (kata sepakat) dari ulama salafush sholih yang terdahulu bahwa zakat tidaklah disalurkan untuk pembangunan masjid atau untuk pembelian kitab dan semacamnya. Karena zakat itu hanya disalurkan untuk delapan golongan sebagaimana yang disebutkan dalam surat At Taubat. Zakat tersebut disalurkan pada:

Fakir
Miskin
Amil zakat
Muallafatu qulubuhum (orang yang dilembutkan hatinya)
Pembebasan budak
Ghorim (yang terlilit utang)
Fii sabilillah (di jalan Allah)
Ibnu Sabiil (biaya untuk orang yang terputus perjalanan)



Sumber : https://rumaysho.com/2710-menyalurkan-zakat...nan-masjid.html

that is reality. zakat is mandatory sedekah. over and above that would be normal sedekah, which can be given to even wider range of recipient (remember that smiling is also sedekah? we can smile to anyone, right?) so, even if people give sedekah, that money may not fall into the correct people (the eight group of people entitled to receive zakat).

the zakat recipient vs collection problem will always be there if not everyone (who has to pay zakat) discharge their obligation. first everyone needs to pay, only then we shall see whether we have enough to make a difference.

but then again, if zakat can be so successful, we'll end up with no one entitled to receive anymore
where do we distribute our moneys then?

This post has been edited by abu.shofwan: Feb 27 2017, 09:03 AM

don't know why, i cannot access the pdf linked there. hence the question. ok la, next time wont ask no more

anyway my statement still stands. i believe zakat money cannot be used/distributed for something (non-person). all the other categories mentioned in At Taubah 60 are all people, so the words fii sabilillaah should be interpreted as a person as well. however, the ulama have different opinions:

quote (article is quite long):

Makna firman Allah: ‘Fi sabilillah’ diperselisihkan ulama tentang tafsirnya,

1) Imam Malik rahimahullah berpendapat bahwa makna ‘fi sabilillah’ adalah semua yang terkait dengan jihad secara umum (baik personel maupun senjata).

2) Pendapat kedua, makna ‘fi sabilillah’ adalah orang yang berangkat jihad, sementara mereka tidak mendapat gaji tetap dari negara atau baitul mal. Ini merupakan pendapat Imam Ahmad dan Imam As-Syafii rahimahullah.

3) Pendapat ketiga, makna ‘fi sabilillah’ adalah semua kegiatan kebaikan, baik itu jihad maupun yang lainnya, seperti membangun masjid, sekolah islam, memperbaiki jalan, membuat sumur, atau lainnya.

Selanjutnya Dr. Al-Musyaiqih menguatkan pendapat bahwa ‘fi sabilillah’ tidak tepat jika dimaknai semua kegiatan kebaikan untuk umat, karena 2 alasan,

a) Jika zakat boleh diberikan untuk semua kegiatan sosial keagamaan, seperti membangun masjid, mencetak buku, atau semacamnya, tentu akan ada banyak hak orang fakir miskin dan 6 golongan lainnya yang berkurang dan menjadi tersita

b) Allah telah membatasi 8 golongan yang berhak mendapat zakat. Jika kalimat ‘fi sabilillah’ dimaknai seluruh jalan kebaikan, tentu cakupannya akan sangat luas. Karena kegiatan sosial keagamaan sangat banyak. Pemaknaan yang terlalu luas semacam ini akan menghilangkan fungsi pembatasan seperti yang disebutkan di surat At-Taubah di atas.

[Sumber: http://ar.islamway.net/fatwa/38349]

Read more https://konsultasisyariah.com/19730-tidak-b...tuk-masjid.html

thanks for the PDF - I'm sure others will also appreciate it.

I also think it's good that we can get to see where they channel the money. But it shouldn't be reason to not pay zakat. because you know la, zakat is mandatory. sure you can escape the amil/authority here on earth, but you can never run from the judgment in the afterlife.

I am one of those people who prefer direct giving to the 8 categories of people. i won't get any tax deduction from it, but it's not like i'm super rich that my zakat is in the millions (ringgit, la... not talking about zimbabwe's dollar or what ever ) - so being able to see how it is/will-be channeled is a plus point.

No lah, not that hard. you just need to find a fakir or a miskin person/family. give to them when it's due. I just keep giving to those people - so no need for me to do survey all the time. besides, the best rewards is when you give to people close to you (your family first before others, orphans first before others, etc.)

oh, by the way, I am also of the opinion that zakat harta is only one type: the one with the haul (yearly due date). No zakat on my monthly income, but zakat only calculated on the "end of the hijri year" - at the minimum you calculate your gold, silver and savings (I don't have other types of harta wan, me not a ringgit millionaire).

but anyway, this here is a different topic altogether. i think we've already discussed (in civil manners of course) it before.

That's what I do. I think I already gave some explanation on this belief a while back in this thread
Some believe there's zakat gaji, or zakat penghasilan. But as far as I know, zakat penghasilan is zakat harta (the one with haul/yearly due). So I pay only at the end of the year. For this, I set aside an estimated amount per month. So that I will already have thr money ready when the time comes.

Ada sebuah pertanyaan yang diajukan kepada Fadlilatusy-Syaikh Muhammad bin Shaalih Al-‘Utsaimin rahimahullah :

Tanya : Apakah diperbolehkan mengkopi program komputer yang bersamaan dengan itu, perusahaan dan sistem/peraturan tidak memperbolehkannya ? Apakah hal itu bisa diperhitungkan sebagai satu bentuk monopoli ? Mereka menjualnya dengan harga yang mahal, namun jika mereka menjual dalam bentuk kopian, maka mereka bisa menjualnya dengan harga yang lebih murah ?
Jawab : Apakah program itu adalah program Al-Qur’an ?

Tanya : Program komputer secara umum.
Jawab : Apakah program itu adalah program Al-Qur’an ?

Tanya : Program Al-Qur’an, hadits, dan banyak program lainnya.
Jawab : Apakah yang engkau maksud adalah isi dari program tersebut ?

Tanya : Ya, apa-apa yang termuat dalam CD-nya.
Jawab : Apabila negara melarangnya, maka tidak diperbolehkan mengkopinya, karena Allah telah memerintahkan kita untuk mentaati waliyyul-amri, kecuali dalam hal kemaksiatan kepada Allah. Dan pelarangan pengkopian bukan termasuk perbuatan maksiat kepada Allah. Adapun dari sisi perusahaan, maka aku berpendapat bahwa jika seseorang mengkopi hanya untuk dirinya sendiri, maka tidak mengapa. Namun jika ia mengkopinya untuk diperdagangkan, maka tidak boleh, karena itu akan merugikan bagi yang lain. Perbuatan itu menyerupai penjualan terhadap penjualan seorang muslim. Karena jika mereka menjualnya dengan harga seratus, kemudian engkau mengkopinya dan menjualnya dengan harga limapuluh, maka ini namanya penjualan terhadap penjualan saudaramu.

Tanya : Dan apakah diperbolehkan saya membelinya kopian dengan harga limapuluh dari pemilik toko?
Jawab : Tidak diperbolehkan, kecuali jika engkau ketahui bahwa si penjual telah memperoleh idzin. Namun jika ia tidak punya bukti (bahwa ia telah diijinkan), maka ini termasuk anjuran untuk berbuat dosa dan permusuhan.

Tanya : Apabila ia tidak mempunyai ijin – jazaakallaahu khairan ?
Jawab : Seandainya engkau tidak mengetahuinya, kadang-kadang seseorang memang tidak mengetahuinya, dan ia melewati sebuah toko, lalu ia membeli sedangkan ia tidak tahu; maka tidak mengapa dengannya. Orang yang tidak tahu, maka tidak ada dosa baginya”.[Silsilah Liqaa’ Al-Baab Al-Maftuuh, juz 178]http://www.sahab.net/forums/showthread.php?t=348387

read more at the source. the language is confusing for me la, maybe u all can read through and summarize. in this example it's copying, but i think downloading also should be treated the same. it's still copying, but it's from an online source instead of physical source.

Sumber: https://muslim.or.id/5791-hukum-mengcopy-pr...-atau-buku.html

you mean partition ka?
i think there is a dedicated thread on home furnishing and what not

Imam Ibnul Mundzir mengatakan,

وَأَجْمَعَ كُلُّ مَنْ نَحْفَظُ عَنْهُ مَنْ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ , عَلَى أَنَّ عَلَى الْمَرْءِ نَفَقَةَ أَوْلادِهِ الأَطْفَالِ الَّذِينَ لا مَالَ لَهُمْ . وَلأَنَّ وَلَدَ الإِنْسَانِ بَعْضُهُ , وَهُوَ بَعْضُ وَالِدِهِ , فَكَمَا يَجِبُ عَلَيْهِ أَنْ يُنْفِقَ عَلَى نَفْسِهِ وَأَهْلِهِ كَذَلِكَ عَلَى بَعْضِهِ وَأَصْلِه

Ulama yang kami ketahui sepakat bahwa seorang lelaki wajib menanggung nafkah anak-anaknya yang masih kecil, yang tidak memiliki harta. Karena anak seseorang adalah darah dagingnya, dia bagian dari orang tuanya. Sebagaimana dia berkewajiban memberi nafkah untuk dirinya dan keluarganya, dia juga berkewajiban memberi nafkah untuk darah dagingnya. (al-Mughni, 8/171).


Read more https://konsultasisyariah.com/22041-meminta...h-bercerai.html


summary of quoted article:

our children remains our flesh and blood, even after divorce with their mother. this flesh and blood connection is not something that can be cut by divorce. based on this principle, the father is still liable to provide for the children even after divorce, where ever the children may be. he is not, however, responsible for the well being of the ex-wife after their divorce.

there is nothing to discuss la bang...
amoi tu tak nak, but u still nak jugak
kena usaha la
tak kan nak harap "miracle"
kita ni bukan lah golongan nabi kan...

just don't break the rules while chasing that amoi

p.s.
tempted to reply ala /k-style... but remembered just in time that this ain't /k

yes... that is the crux of my summary. although, of course, once the kids become independent (have own source of income, bla bla bla), then there is no more obligation/mandatory nafkah. if you still give, then it is good. if no give, then it is ok (takde dosa punya wan).

but i may have misunderstood... we're talking about the person's (let's call him Mr. A) child(ren), being taken care of by the ex-wife... right?

if we are talking about the child of the widow who came to live with Mr. A (because Mr. A married the widow), then there is no obligation placed by Islam for Mr. A to provide for this child. If he does, then that is good, of course. But if he doesn't provide, then there is no harm in the eye of Islam - maybe only in the eye of society.

Mr. A cannot simply reject the child, though. The right to bring up a child lies first and foremost with the mother (in case of divorce). Exceptions may apply though, such as if the mother became a non-believer, became gravely ill, etc.

Respect, bro...
As far as I know
You didn't have to do it
But you are allowed to do it, of course. Nothing at law prevents you from doing so...

If you are still able, I really recommend you continue until she gets married.

Btw, how old are you again? I didn't catch it the first time...

I can only suggest gold
But physical gold and keep somewhere safe... Extra safe, if possible
It should be quite easily liquidable, yet not too easy that you can be tempted to liquidify it to extinguish that urge to buy a galaxy s8 (or iPhone, if you're into that sort of thing)

Better check that in more details
I remember that gold is one of the riba material. Hence it is required to transact in physical form and on the spot (no delay)

found this:

Imam al-Bukhari rahimahullah meriwayatkan dari ‘Ubadah bin ash-Shamit Radhiyallahu anhu, bahwa Nabi Shallallahu ‘alaihi wa sallam bersabda:

اَلذَّهَبُ بِالذَّهَبِ وَالْفِضَّةُ بِالْفِضَّةِ وَالْبُرُّ بِالْبُرِّ وَالشَّعِيْرُ بِالشَّعِيْرِ وَالتَّمْرُ بِالتَّمْرِ وَالْمِلْحُ بِالْمِلْحِ مِثْلاً بِمِثْلٍ سَوَاءً بِسَوَاءٍ يَداً بِيَدٍ فَإِذَ اخْتَلَفَتْ هذِهِ اْلأَصْنَافُ فَبِيْعُوْا كَيْفَ شِئْتُمْ إِذَا كَانَ يَدًا بِيَدٍ.

“(Jual beli) emas dengan emas, perak dengan perak, gandum dengan gandum, sya’ir dengan sya’ir, kurma dengan kurma dan garam dengan garam, ukurannya harus sama, dan harus dari tangan ke tangan (dilakukan dengan kontan). Jika jenis-jenisnya tidak sama, maka juallah sesuka kalian asalkan secara kontan.”


Sumber: https://almanhaj.or.id/4045-riba-nasi-ah-ri...-emas-baru.html

I interpret "kontan" being "fully paid on the spot"

However, I don't claim to fully understand this aspect. It's only because of the "kontan" limitation that I highlighted. Hoping for a sifu to explain more on this.

wa'alaykumussalaam

Aiyooo
My kurma from last year still got some. Maybe i shouldn't have bought 1kg if I live alone...
I remember also when I used to work in Brunei, got kurma from Sultan (every muslim in the country will get a box of 500g,regardless of nationality)