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TSkingz113
post Sep 24 2014, 02:04 PM, updated 6y ago

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The 2014 Malaysia CLP (certificate of legal practice) results were released on Monday – and congratulations to all who passed! Being a candidate myself, I experienced firsthand how intense this exam was. Thankfully, I passed with second class on my first attempt.

I received a lot of great help that enabled me to be successful in this exam. As such, I’m attempting to write a comprehensive guide on the various methods you can employ to bolster your chances of achieving what I did, if not more.

How to Pass CLP Using These 10 Simple Tips:

Being a student of the 21st century, I was surprised at the lack of information surrounding this examination. I remember trawling through the net with no success and am left wanting. Thus, this guide is catered mostly to those who have no clue about this exam at all (i.e. people who grew up overseas) but I believe the tips are equally applicable to everyone including repeaters of this exam. It also contains some other minor information I think would be relevant. If you find this guide helpful, do drop a note in the thread.

A little bit of background about me: I grew up overseas and did not have the faintest idea of what CLP was. After completing my Bachelors and wanting to return to practise, I was told of contradicting reports that Australian grads do not need to obtain the CLP in order to do so. For fear of digressing, suffice to say that I needed to do the CLP, and the following link provides a good summary on what it is all about.

http://www.lpqb.org.my/index.php?option=co...d=130&Itemid=77

(On a side note, www.lpqb.org.my should be one of your bookmarks. It contains important information such as exam requirements, exam registration and also past exams papers.)

Important must-haves:
1. Tons of good pens

2. Thick exercise books (you will need a lot of these)

3. Folders to separate the various subjects

4. ALL the study materials

5. Two exact same copies of statutes. One for highlighting, one for exam purposes. If you refer to it a lot - which
you should - sooner or later you can precisely visualise in your head where the rules are and even creepier,
where certain exact words are at. Highlighting helps guide your visual memory.

6. Commitment to memorise

7. Be organised. Nothing is worse than feeling all crappy and unable to progress with your revision because your
pen has no ink, you left your answer book at home etc. Make a checklist if you have to.

8. Time management. Don’t get bogged down on non time-effective stuff like writing full answers to questions you
already know and done repeatedly.

SUBJECTS INFORMATION (IN THE ORDER OF ASCENDING DIFFICULTY IN MY HUMBLE OPINION)
Criminal Procedure
By far the easiest paper. Content is the least of all 5. Expect to memorise about 100 cases still. A point to note is that In 2014 there was a major shift in the type of exam questions.

General Paper
Bulky but can be very standard. There’s only 2 questions. Contracts is a little bit more difficult than tort as there’s more variety. Tort for the last 15 years had been stock standard negligence in running down matters.
There is a lot to write so time management is key. You MUST adhere to the strict 1.5 hours for each question. The dangerous part about this paper is if you don’t know the question, you are pretty much screwed since there’s no other choices. So please study everything.

Evidence
Interesting paper and limited questions that they can ask. The subject spectrum is not as broad so if you scan through the last 8 years of past papers the questions becomes very standard and self-repeating. 2013 paper was the hardest paper hitherto.

Civil Procedure
My favourite paper. Can be very very hard initially but its like a puzzle piece. Once the entire court process falls into place everything clicks. Extremely bulky but leave no stone unturned. Impossible to spot questions as each question has sub-questions testing on possibly 4 different topics. Injunction is an examiners’ favourite but the 2014 paper only had 10 marks allocated instead of the usual 20. Goes to show spotting is potentially suicide. Expect to memorise 100-150 cases.

Professional Practise
An absolute killer paper. 5 subjects in one. A LOT OF CONTENT. You will be panicking the night before exam on a Sunday night. There are 9 questions and students must answer 5. You must answer 2 Ethics and Advocacy questions from a choice of 4 questions. You are then free to answer the remaining 3 questions on a selection of 3 Land, 1 Bankruptcy and 1 Probate questions. Lazy people will tell you to do 3 land questions. This IS NOT ADVISABLE WHATSOEVER AND WILL 99% LEAD YOU TO FAIL. Land questions are notoriously difficult but bankruptcy and probate questions are laughably easy. Yes you have to work harder but trust me it will be worth it. I studied Land intensively but still could only answer 1 land question. If I hadn’t studied bankruptcy and probate I would have failed this subject.
Do not underestimate this paper as I know serial repeaters who had constantly failed this paper alone.

PRELIMINARIES – 9 MONTHS BEFORE EXAM
TIP 1: SET THE RIGHT EXPECTATIONS
The earlier you come to terms with how hard and voluminous this exam is, the more beneficial it is for you. From day one in September 2013 I had my game face on and I counted that by the eve of the exam period, I had a solid 500-600 cases memorised in my head. And YES, IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. I shall qualify this statement by saying it is only possible if you start early, as it will be near impossible if you attempt to memorise 1 week before exams.

Be prepared to fight the demons in your head every single day and keep pressing on. Every mini victory is still a victory.

TIP 2: GO TO YOUR CLASSES
I shall simply state that there is Power in Presence. No matter how tired you are, try and go and be present in these classes. Even if you took in one point of law in a 3 hour lecture, it is better than not taking in any knowledge for the day at all. Time-wise it is also more effective because listening to knowledge is FAR EASIER AND QUICKER than opening the book and reading line by line. I always reminded myself that by going to a 3-hour lecture, I saved 6 hours of reading time.

TIP 3: MAKE FRIENDS/STUDY BUDDIES THAT ARE EQUALLY MOTIVATED
I cannot stress how important this is. It is not compulsory and I know of people who passed being a lone ranger. BUT why shoulder the entire burden when you can share it with your friends? They will serve to:

a) pressure you into studying
b) give you a bearing on where you are at progress-wise and if you need to pick up your game
c) get you to go to class
d) someone to talk through uncertainties
e) motivate you
f) inform you of any important updates you missed in class
g) help you take notes
h) make class less boring
i) Potential bf/gf
j) Car pool to class/library etc;
k) Recommend you good food

So many benefits! Why not???

TIP 4: GET ADEQUATE REST AND NUTRITIOUS FOOD
You are in for a long battle. Prevent getting sick as it will wear away your confidence level. One important thing on time management is to continue to do your other normal activities, such as proper sleep, exercise, eat well, and catch up with friends as you go through the preparations.

3 MONTHS/13 WEEKS OUT
Now we come to the beginning of crunch time. At this point in time you need to have a basic understanding of the subject materials. Perfect application is not necessary. I remember at this point in time, I understood the content but still couldn’t answer exam questions. At this time, you are in a good position if you know where to look for answers. You know you are improving if you refer lesser and lesser, or take less time locating the answers. I was constantly referring to my subject materials up until about 2-4 weeks before the exam.


TIP 5: CREATE YOUR OWN NOTES
Reading all the College’s prepared notes is commendable. But if you think that is enough you are 100% wrong. 3 months prior, start by going through each subject’s chapter by chapter and writing your own notes. The purpose of this is to help you gain a better understanding of the materials. However TAKE NOTE. I see some people wasting time making world class notes. Nothing wrong with that but know that time is your worst enemy! Do not lose sight of the purpose of making these notes in the first place. As long as you understand the content, move on. Personally, I spent a week on each subject, so it gave me a good 8 weeks to practise questions with solid understanding.

TIP 6: CREATE A LIST OF IMPORTANT CASES
There are certain cases that you will always refer to, because they are of importance. Start off your notebook by reserving 5 pages immediately for this purpose. When lecturers mention any trite, controversial, precedent-setting case, immediately jot them down and put a page reference if needed. When you are reading through the notes and come across good cases, also jot them down immediately.

The reason why this is so powerful because you will thank yourself to only have to flip through 5 pages and have immediate access to all the vital cases. Trust me; you do not want to flip through hundreds of pages of materials to only access that small quantity (nevertheless vital) of information. Secondly it is also great because you can study them daily and easily, and subconsciously you are also memorising them. WINNING!

TIP 7: ATTEND TO UNCERTAINTIES IMMEDIATELY
Did I mention that there are tonnes of materials you have to go through?! So yes, if you put off an ambiguity/uncertainty when coming across a problem, chances are you will NEVER find out the answer for it because you will be too preoccupied with learning other stuff. Civil Procedure is known for asking weird crap that you think is not examinable. Just look at the 2014 paper. If you don’t perform this tip, then God be with you in the event the content you skipped is examined.


TIP 8: START MEMORISING EARLY
This tip is linked to Tip 6. Start memorising 3 months prior. Start by memorising cases you know for sure are important (land indefeasibility, form of a charge, bail etc etc). As your Case list expands, refer to it daily or every second day. The act of just reading it constantly will cause it to be seared into your memory.

As a guide, I can only take in about 10-20 cases per day. I come back to these cases to refresh my memory every other day. I know of friends who tried to put in hundreds of cases 1-2 weeks before exam. It adds stress and not to mention, there is a greater chance you might not be able to recall it during exams (mental blank). For me mental blank wasn’t a problem, because of so much repetition, I can remember some of the cases till to date.

TIP 9: CREATE METHODS TO MEMORISE
This is the third tip on memorising, and by now I hope you should know the importance of memorising. Please feel free to create stupid ways to memorise. Anything at all to help! Examples of what I did were to relate case names to relatives’ name, food name. Perhaps the most powerful method was to create acronyms where each initials stood for different cases/principles. The sillier the acronym, the easier it is for you to remember.

For memorising super voluminous subject matters (20-30++ cases) there is no other way other than by rigorous repetition and referring to it daily.

TIP 10: ROTATE ALL SUBJECTS EVERY 2.5 DAYS EVENTUALLY TO 2 DAYS
Having spent 5 weeks making your own notes for each subject mentioned in tip 5, next you must revisit these subjects constantly before it slips from your brain. Force yourself to go through the subjects every 2.5 days. My plan was half day for all subjects. Eventually I combined GP and criminal to be done in half a day. Using this method and with 8 weeks remaining, you can potentially go through the course content 20-25 times in total.

You also need to start doing questions pronto. Initially you probably can only do 4 questions per half day (research, writing etc). Eventually you can probably do 7-10 questions per half day. Note I didn’t write all of the answers out (massive waste of time). Instead I sometimes typed it out on a computer to check my flow, or just write it out in point form. I also wrote a few full answers here and there to make sure my hands would not cramp during exams. I estimate I did about 8-10 years’ worth of exam papers in total.

So please READ, UNDERSTAND, WRITE, REPEAT.

This method is useful because the criminal paper in 2014 tested us on evidence. If you employed this tip there should be no problems at all as you would have done everything to death prior to the exam.

SIDE NOTE: YOU SURE YOU CAN WORK AND STUDY AT THE SAME TIME?
I was actually working full time in a legal firm (assisting the senior partner in litigation matters) while studying for CLP. I took 3 months off to prepare for the exam. Now before you jump the gun and say “oh m gee, only need 3 months then can get second class ah? Sure damn easy lo”, please understand that I completed a demanding double degree while working full time overseas. As such I already have very good time management skills that helped me with preparation.

If you intend to work and study at the same time, I ask that you assess your capabilities and time management skills before going down this route.

a) Ask yourself are you game enough to tell your moody manager you are leaving early to attend classes when there’s a deadline approaching?
b) Ask yourself can you leave work behind at the office and not be distracted by it during classes?
c) Ask yourself do you have the discipline and mental strength to reject invitations to party/vacations/dinner/outing and go to class after work?

If you are not confident of the above, inter alia, questions, you need to know CLP is NOT the platform to start learning time-management and soft skills.

SOMETIMES, IT’S OK TO FALL SHORT OF THE MARK
I think it is important that I also say the following. From the above write up, I may give the impression that I am the perfect blazing student who worked hard and didn’t for one second give up. Wrong. If you asked my friends I wanted to quit this course umpteen times, or just treat my first attempt as a practise run and try again in the future..

I also gave in to temptations many times and skipped classes to have fun. I also did not attend certain classes that I thought were unnecessary. I also spent a lot of nights feeling guilty because I only studied 4 hours for that day (my aim is to study 12 hours a day). As a result I have garnered notoriety amongst peers for not attending classes.

Nevertheless, I got through. The key is I had a great support group who was there to pick me up when I’m left feeling inadequate. You will feel crap a lot of times but do not let that get to you. It’s only human to be fallible.


EXAM TIME PSYCHOLOGY
Lastly, the CLP exam structure is demanding. You only get 1.5 days to rest/revise for the next subject. It is easy to give up mid way especially when you are not confident of the paper.

I was blessed as I got through each exam feeling confident. However, if you feel otherwise, I urge you to persevere. I’ve heard hearsay anecdotes that people gave up on the remaining papers because they thought they didn’t do well on earlier papers, but to their surprise they passed those papers anyway. I’ve also heard stories that people only knew how to answer half of the questions and yet they passed.

I cannot verify these stories but the point is we just don’t know how the examiners are marking the exams. Please don’t make your own assumptions and just finish what you started.

Conclusion
This pretty much sums up my whole experience with CLP. I hope you find the guide useful and hopefully everyone will do much better in the future. Prospective students please feel free to PM me to have a chat about CLP in general, challenges, college choices (ATC vs BAC debate) etc. I’m open to meet up to have a chat, and all I charge is a cup of coffee smile.gif

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post Sep 24 2014, 05:27 PM

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Criminal Procedure is not the easiest paper. Fuark I memorized every single thing in the entire book couldn't do 4 questions Thanks God I got C for it. And even before this year, it wasn't that easy to study in the sense that it is very very bulky. Just look at the amount of cases. An ocean full of cases especially in chapters such as Summary Trial and Sentencing. On a side note, Criminal Procedure has the highest failure rate this year.

GP is the toughest at least imo. First you have got only 2 questions and must do both. If you din't know about the contract area came out in question, You are going to fail. Given that you know every single thing. You will find yourself a hard time finishing both questions. However suprisingly this is one of the subject that got most As.

Civil, Evidence and PP is easy for me. We panicked for PP on Sunday evening this year is because of the Criminal. That criminal paper taught us nothing but one lesson no matter how much you study, you are not going to be able to answer 4 questions.

Agree with you on other tips but for Tip 6, well it is better not to do such thing or you will ommit some not too important cases yet came out in exam.

Tip 5 is good to go if you have extra time and that area is messy and tedious.

Btw, Congratulations to you for passing the exam.

But just wondering, why do you come back and not stayed abroad?

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post Sep 24 2014, 09:42 PM

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Criminal this time seemed to have more curve balls than usual, with the probative value question, as well as dying declaration comparison with common law jurisprudence. I don't think it's normally that difficult.
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post Sep 25 2014, 09:43 AM

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It is tough because all 7 questions are essay based. Even if they appeared to be Problem. They are essay questions in the form of problem questions.

When you see 10 marks and 15 marks for a single section in CPC you know they want you to go beyond that 1 section.

So it is either you do essay CPC question or evidence essay/problem questions in a CPC paper.

Just look at the amount of evidence question- witness, weight of evidence, examination of witness, prima facie etc.

as for CPC essay question, who study CPC to do essay? It is just too bulky itself to do the problem questions.
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post Sep 25 2014, 10:41 AM

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o_O

Law students having trouble with essays? That's a first for me.
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post Sep 25 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(S_SienZ @ Sep 25 2014, 12:42 AM)
Criminal this time seemed to have more curve balls than usual, with the probative value question, as well as dying declaration comparison with common law jurisprudence. I don't think it's normally that difficult.
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I agree with you criminal procedure this year seems to be more like an exception compared to previous years. However this might be the start of something new and past exams may not be as relevant anymore.

As for Red123, I honestly think you are overthinking things. Criminal Procedure is not hard. I did say you still have to know about 100 cases. The simplicity lies in the fact that the subject breadth is much more manageable than other subjects. In previous years, they constantly asked very similar questions so that's why it was simple. This year they just simply mixed things up a little.

I honestly think if you managed to ingest the whole book but still found the questions difficult, or worst, unanswerable, then something is very wrong with your understanding of the subject matter. To put it simply, an orange is an orange. If you can only tell that its an orange by looking at one fixed angle, then to me you are not taking a holistic approach in learning; a skill which ALL LAWYERS must need. I'm sorry but that's just how I see it.

As a side concern, I realise the lack of critical thinking skills is an issue locally. The CPC paper is clear evidence of this as when the examiners had veered off the beaten path this year, all of a sudden the easiest paper became the paper with the highest failure rate.

PS: In regards to Tip 6, the list will by no means be exhaustive. It simply augments the memorising process and ensure you do not leave out the important cases (Luggage Distributors; LLL v BHL; Kayu Raya etc etc)

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post Sep 25 2014, 11:48 AM

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Thanks TS for this great information. I just registered few weeks ago and doing home study due to some circumstances. Your extra guidance on passing this exam will be much helpful to me. Any idea where I can get extra reference books to start off early as the textbooks are not here yet. Went to search a few bookshops but they don't sell any other than statutes. =\

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QUOTE(Stellalove @ Sep 25 2014, 11:48 AM)
Thanks TS for this great information. I just registered few weeks ago and doing home study due to some circumstances. Your extra guidance on passing this exam will be much helpful to me. Any idea where I can get extra reference books to start off early as the textbooks are not here yet. Went to search a few bookshops but they don't sell any other than statutes. =\
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Get them from former students. No point getting extra outside texts, you won't have time or memory capacity to make use of anything that isn't directly relevant anyway.
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QUOTE(Stellalove @ Sep 25 2014, 11:48 AM)
Thanks TS for this great information. I just registered few weeks ago and doing home study due to some circumstances.
i thought uk grads don't need clp?....just need to do chambering?....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 25 2014, 12:41 PM)
i thought uk grads don't need clp?....just need to do chambering?....
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Only if you go for the BPTC.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 25 2014, 12:41 PM)
i thought uk grads don't need clp?....just need to do chambering?....
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How you know I'm a UK grad? Lol!!! Have to do CLP la...else I won't be here reading this thread. =)
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QUOTE(S_SienZ @ Sep 25 2014, 12:45 PM)
Only if you go for the BPTC.
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QUOTE(Stellalove @ Sep 25 2014, 12:58 PM)
How you know I'm a UK grad? Lol!!! Have to do CLP la...else I won't be here reading this thread. =)
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Yes....and wouldn't doing the bptc be easier than the CLP?....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 25 2014, 03:17 PM)
Yes....and wouldn't doing the bptc be easier than the CLP?....
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I wouldn't say easier. BPTC is more towards practical study while CLP is 100% on theory. In fact, I was quite attracted to the BPTC + 1 year LLM course that my uni offered with a discount. Doing BPTC knowing that I will come back to Malaysia and practice, I chose CLP due to much cheaper fees and able to do home study due to some circumstances. Hopefully I made the right choice.
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Hi Stelllovea, I honestly do not think homestudy is a good option because:

1) you don't get the latest case updates
2) you don't know where you are at progress wise
3) if you encounter a hard question, even with given answers you might not be able to understand it.
4) its very easy to lose motivation.
5) going to class builds a routine and sets u up emotionally. not to mention the constant reminders from lecturers.

I hope you reconsider or at least are able to make adjustments. You are welcomed to come photocopy my notes and if you like I can guide you further.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 25 2014, 03:17 PM)
Yes....and wouldn't doing the bptc be easier than the CLP?....
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Difficulty is very subjective. And it's only one of many factors.

Personally why I chose CLP:

1. I was confident of passing both.
2. Cost of living is cheaper (You can easily afford down payment on a decent property with the amount saved)
3. You may pass the BPTC, but if you're coming back to work anyway, you still have to learn the procedures taught in CLP
4. If you're going to be working in Malaysia with an eye for the domestic market only, you can spend your time networking with people who will be more relevant to your practice later on.

@Stella

If you're enrolling in BAC, I suggest picking certain lecturers to go to if you can't make it to the whole thing. Some are worth it, some aren't.
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It's December guys. Don't slow down too much and keep on pushing during this period. It'll be worth it in a few months time! all the best to next year's candidates.
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Dear learned friends,

I have a very serious problem here. I am registering for the CLP exam as the dateline is end of this month. However, I realized I lost my Alevels certificate and my previous college can't find the photo stated copy of it either. The only record I have for my Alevels is just the one with results on it. Is that sufficient for me to submit the application? And btw, kingZ113, do you have any q&a to spare?
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Hey Stella, you should just submit it before the deadline and proceed from there. In my experience even for court litigation, sometimes a Statutory Declaration will suffice in genuine circumstances where documents are missing.

Yeap I still have the Q&A from last year. Its from ATC and is a great starting guide in answering. let me know if you want them.
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QUOTE(kingz113 @ Dec 10 2014, 10:39 AM)
Hey Stella, you should just submit it before the deadline and proceed from there. In my experience even for court litigation, sometimes a Statutory Declaration will suffice in genuine circumstances where documents are missing.

Yeap I still have the Q&A from last year. Its from ATC and is a great starting guide in answering. let me know if you want them.
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Done registering. Now back to focusing on my revision. I am currently registered under ATC as well. Howdy senior? And as for the Q&A, I really need them and I don't mind purchasing them from you if you're willing to let them off. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kingz113 @ Dec 10 2014, 10:39 AM)
Hey Stella, you should just submit it before the deadline and proceed from there. In my experience even for court litigation, sometimes a Statutory Declaration will suffice in genuine circumstances where documents are missing.

Yeap I still have the Q&A from last year. Its from ATC and is a great starting guide in answering. let me know if you want them.
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hi kingz thanks for your information. i am going to repeat my CLP this July, would you mind to share your Civil Lit Q & A?

Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ling30 @ Apr 8 2015, 06:42 PM)
hi kingz thanks for your information. i am going to repeat my CLP this July, would you mind to share your Civil Lit Q & A?

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No problems smile.gif

Time to buck up to those doing their CLP this year. Not long more to go. All the best!
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QUOTE(kingz113 @ Apr 9 2015, 12:01 PM)
No problems smile.gif

Time to buck up to those doing their CLP this year. Not long more to go. All the best!
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Hi King,

I wouldn't mind paying for your Q and A notes too. I have send you a private message.

Thanks and Best Regards.
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1 more week till this years' exam! all the best to those taking the exams this year!
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Hi, I'm looking for anyone who has recent ATC materials, especially the QnA. I'm a repeater who signed up for BAC, although I prefer ATC's notes. I'm willing to pay for them and for your trouble. Please PM me!

Cheers
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QUOTE(mkooz @ Aug 31 2015, 03:26 AM)
Hi, I'm looking for anyone who has recent ATC materials, especially the QnA. I'm a repeater who signed up for BAC, although I prefer ATC's notes. I'm willing to pay for them and for your trouble. Please PM me!

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Hi Mark,
May I ask where did you study for your Law degree ? Thanks.
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Hey kingz113, I've just registered for this year's CLP intake. Do you still have any books or notes I could take off your hands? Don't mind paying for them! Also, I don't particularly have any major questions just yet but when I do would it be okay for us to meet up and have a chat? smile.gif Always down for an insightful chat over coffee.
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QUOTE(legallyblonde @ Sep 7 2015, 10:30 PM)
Hey kingz113, I've just registered for this year's CLP intake. Do you still have any books or notes I could take off your hands? Don't mind paying for them! Also, I don't particularly have any major questions just yet but when I do would it be okay for us to meet up and have a chat? smile.gif Always down for an insightful chat over coffee.
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Hey unfortunately I don't have any books anymore to give away. Yes you are welcomed to contact me if you have any questions or pop into my office for a quick chat if you like.
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Thanks kingz113 for the tips. It sure was an insightful read. I just registered for the CLP course in ATC and would like to hear more from you about this particular college that I have chosen, about the lecturers, and related information for this particular course.
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Hi all, I NEW to CLP and I plan to do home studies. I need help on finding reading materials I don't mind paying for Notes and books also Q&A, please help I feel so lost here >.<
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Congrats to all who passed the CLP paper 2015. To those who didn't make it, try again and all the best.
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I passed my CLP in 2015 on my first attempt with a 2nd Upper. I am offering individual/group coaching sessions for candidates on how best to prepare for the CLP exams.

Different study methods work for different people, and I will try my best to customise the smartest and the most efficient approach for you to pass the CLP. I will advise you on materials, note-making, shortcuts to studying and memorising, as well as techniques to answer exam questions.

I am also available for:
- tuition (individual or group) on any CLP subjects/topics.
- preparation of answer outline for any CLP past year questions

Please PM for more info.

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I passed my clp with 3rd class for my first attempt this year. Clp is not really that hard because past year tend to repeat and I only studied two month before the real exam lol. I guess I got lucky because one of my friend that study together with me didn't manage to pass, I'm fairly certain that under the third class category they actually handpicked the ballot. My best tips to all new clp student is never study everything in clp because it's impossible, pick hot topic to study and pray you will score it.

I have some materials left but I would doubt it will be of any use if you already registered to attend classes as material will be provided.

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QUOTE(wow1wow2 @ Oct 26 2015, 03:12 PM)
I passed my clp with 3rd class for my first attempt this year. Clp is not really that hard because past year tend to repeat and I only studied two month before the real exam lol. I guess I got lucky because one of my friend that study together with me didn't manage to pass, I'm fairly certain that under the third class category they actually handpicked the ballot. My best tips to all new clp student is never study everything in clp because it's impossible, pick hot topic to study and pray you will score it.

I have some materials left but I would doubt it will be of any use if you already registered to attend classes as material will be provided.
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Hi congrats! are you from ATC or BAC? I am looking for ATC materials biggrin.gif Cheers
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QUOTE(LH15 @ Oct 28 2015, 09:39 PM)
Hi congrats! are you from ATC or BAC? I am looking for ATC materials biggrin.gif Cheers
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Hi I'm from bac but I used atc professional practice material as it is more organised. Apart from that I don't have other material of atc
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Hi congrats! are you from ATC or BAC? I am looking for ATC materials biggrin.gif Cheers
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I have ATC materials from 2015 smile.gif Revision planners, notes, Q&A.
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I have ATC materials from 2015 smile.gif Revision planners, notes, Q&A.
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Hi there, can i have those ATC 2015 materials?
Im looking for it.it would be very helpful.thank you so much.

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QUOTE(cheekymonkey1809 @ Oct 30 2015, 10:27 AM)
I have ATC materials from 2015 smile.gif Revision planners, notes, Q&A.
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Hi There, My name is Sara and i registered for this coming CLP 2016 but sadly i didnt manage to register for any classes due to lack of financial capacity. Well how i wish i am financially fortunate to pay the class. But no worries, I am now doing my own study plus doing some paralegal stuff in one legal firm..

I read that you have CLP materials from ATC... especially Notes and basically everthing... And would you mind sharing it with me.. hahaha.. it would be helpful for me considering im not attending any class...

p/s: i will qoute you in my long call if i pass the exam because of your help... hahahahaha nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Hi all, I did my UoL law degree quite some years ago but I didn't proceed with CLP right after my part 2 examination due to busy working schedule. Right now I'm planning to do self-study as I foresee I'll have more free time for my personal life in the next 2 yrs when I move over to Aus.

Based on my current career progress, I doubt that I'll be practicing law in Msia but to attempt for CLP at least once is one of my unfinished businesses. As such, I appreciate if there are someone willing to share the CLP materials and notes with me (pls also provide indicative price quote - willing buyer-seller basis). Thank you.

Pls PM me if possible.
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QUOTE(z21j @ Mar 14 2016, 12:44 AM)
Hi all, I did my UoL law degree quite some years ago but I didn't proceed with CLP right after my part 2 examination due to busy working schedule. Right now I'm planning to do self-study as I foresee I'll have more free time for my personal life in the next 2 yrs when I move over to Aus.

Based on my current career progress, I doubt that I'll be practicing law in Msia but to attempt for CLP at least once is one of my unfinished businesses.  As such, I appreciate if there are someone willing to share the CLP materials and notes with me (pls also provide indicative price quote - willing buyer-seller basis). Thank you.

Pls PM me if possible.
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Why didn't you want to practice in Malaysia ? Thanks.
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Why didn't you want to practice in Malaysia ? Thanks.
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Hi. Actually I am a working adult (non-legal industry) and did my LLB on distance learning basis. If my "old LYN friends" are still active here, they should recall me and in fact I got most of my study materials from BAC/ATC from these LYN forumers back then. I'm supposed they are practicing/qualified lawyer by now. It's really quite some times ago - year 2009/2010.

Yea as I mentioned above, I'm not in the legal industry. I doubt I will give up my current career but things might change after 2 yrs in Aus (i.e I must spend the next two yrs in Aus so that I wont have issues to renew my PR which due in 2 yrs time). Probably after the stay for 2 yrs there I will change my mind.

In any event I need to pass this CLP first before I can talk abt practicing law. If I don't pass, that's it. Anyway, I'll be going over Melb only in August 2016.

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QUOTE(z21j @ Mar 14 2016, 11:35 PM)
Hi. Actually I am a working adult (non-legal industry) and did my LLB on distance learning basis. If my "old LYN friends" are still active here, they should recall me and in fact I got most of my study materials from BAC/ATC from these LYN forumers back then. I'm supposed they are practicing/qualified lawyer by now. It's really quite some times ago - year 2009/2010.

Yea as I mentioned above, I'm not in the legal industry. I doubt I will give up my current career but things might change after 2 yrs in Aus (i.e I must spend the next two yrs in Aus so that I wont have issues to renew my PR which due in 2 yrs time). Probably after the stay for 2 yrs there I will change my mind.

In any event I need to pass this CLP first before I can talk abt practicing law. If I don't pass, that's it. Anyway, I'll be going over Melb only in August 2016.
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Thanks for sharing. What is your profession here and later on in Melbourne ? Cheers.
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Thanks for sharing.  What is your profession here and later on in Melbourne ? Cheers.
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accounting/finance industry. used to work in bank and external audit but now serve as a senior accountant of a mnc.
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I have ATC materials from 2015 smile.gif Revision planners, notes, Q&A.
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Hi ya, do you still have ATC materials? I would like to buy from you. Thank you.

xin_ying23@hotmail.com
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Hi ya, do you still have ATC materials? I would like to buy from you. Thank you.

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I have BAC materials from 2015. PM me if you want. FOC of course. laugh.gif
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Need help and tips in passing clp


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Hi! Anybody have BAC (or ATC) materials, DON'T THROW AWAY... I'll buy them off you... PM me for more info...
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Started a CLP website for all the CLP Students.

http://clponlinemy.wixsite.com/mysite

I will try to update the information and notes on daily basis as I do it on my free time only smile.gif

Hope the site will be able to help all the CLP students.

Btw, all the notes and analysis are Free rclxm9.gif
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Civil procedure past year analysis (from year 2011-2015) is up for free. Hope all of you find it useful.
http://clponlinemy.wixsite.com/mysite/civil-procedure-1
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I've BAC textbooks for all the subjects given in 2014-2015. I can give it out for free. A user in LYN pmed me about a few days ago, not sure if she wants it..If she doesn't I can give it to you.
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Another topic for civil procedure is up. Other preliminary matters- which cover areas like Agreement provides disputes to be tried in a foreign country, whether foreign law should be governing law, S10 of Arbitration Act and claim in foreign currency. Hope all of you find the notes useful.
http://clponlinemy.wixsite.com/…/7-other...iminary-matters
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General Paper-1st topic-Preliminary is up in our site FREE:
http://clponlinemy.wixsite.com/mysite/preliminary
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http://clponlinemy.wixsite.com/mysite/sing...our-CLP-answers

Ways to improve your CLP answers

Certificate of legal practice (CLP), a certificate that many law students detest despite the fact that it’s one of the common tickets available for a law student to step into another stage. There are quite a number of useful articles or study tips available in the web for a student to ponder upon when sitting for CLP exam. This article is meant to add into the lists of the study tips available. Please do not take them as gospel truth and follow blindly as there are no hard and fast rule in passing the exam.

a) Your target audience members are judges, legal practitioners, legal academicians who practice before.

Every CLP students have to recognize the fact legal professional audience has different characteristics compare to legal academicians. It is largely depends on your emphasis rather than fundamentals of the process. The emphasis here equates to your analytical skills.

The practitioner examiners' main concern is not about the substantive law evolving in that area questioned. They are testing your knowledge on how are you going to advise or do when such a circumstance or situation arises. The reasons underpinning such rules are important but they are less interested in the abstract theory. For eg in the topic of non-compliance, the examiners not only want to know the comment on implications of the non-compliance cases, a discussion of the rationale of the decision will be valuable in order to perform a view as to how practice is going to develop and whether judges will maintain the very strict approach to non-compliance. Any socio-legal or socio-economic arguments need to be avoided at all costs when answering the CLP questions.

Practitioners do have the time to consider whether the ruling is right or wrong. The essence of your answer shall focus on the type of problem and how you will solve them with your knowledge on the procedural law.


b) Read Judgments

An apple a day keeps the doctor away. Read judgments without fail every single day will definitely help. The style of writings will change along the way without you realising it and most importantly you will know how to write like a practitioner and not academicians. This in long run will also help you to correct your legal terminology and polish your language.


c) Cite the cases’ citations
The first thing that a student want to do is to impress the examiners on how dedicated you are in reading law. Citing case law citations in you answer will definitely be able to put you in a better bracket in impressing your examiners. Just focus on few important cases together with their citations may become handy during the exams.


d) Answer all the questions
Do not take chances to leave any questions unanswered during exam because if you cannot answer all the questions on time, you are equivalent to an incompetent practitioner.


e) Start to prepare early
Do not wait until 2 months before exam only start to flip your notes/case law because it’s too late and psychologically will be influenced by lack of time. Your mind will not be able to absorb so much things in such short span of time.


f) Relate your authorities to the facts in issue
Try to avoid regurgitate what you have memorised in model answers. Always put a “bridging” sentences between your relevant authorities or principles and the facts in issue.

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Hiii! My name is Stephanie, I'm a 2016/2017 CLP who registered with BAC. I'm using Ms Mariette Peter's book to study for Evidence, but I know that she gives updates to her notes during your lectures at ATC. I was wondering if anyone here still has her notes for Evidence? I don't mind paying for them! Thank you so much! And actually, if you happen to have the Q&As, that would be even better, thanks! smile.gif
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All the recent amendments and sudden changes in the exam format less than 2 months from exam for criminal procedure. Kind of stress. sad.gif

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If anyone is looking to intern, kindly see below link.

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Followed your guide. Passed first time. Owe you coffee.
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QUOTE(.:zaxiao:. @ Jun 12 2019, 12:41 AM)
Followed your guide. Passed first time. Owe you coffee.
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My friend have failed for the 3rd time. Any advice? He is 25 this year.
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Hi, I plan to sit for the CLP exams in 2020. Due to my current commitment and I don't live in KL, I am unable to attend the class. Can anyone advise me where can I get the reading materials? Thank you.
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QUOTE(littlekelz @ Oct 30 2019, 09:29 AM)
Hi, I plan to sit for the CLP exams in 2020. Due to my current commitment and I don't live in KL, I am unable to attend the class. Can anyone advise me where can I get the reading materials? Thank you.
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Me too.. Got same problem. Anyone can give me notes or reading materials? Willing to pay for it
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Hi, please pm me if you are looking to sell your 2019 CLP books. Thanks smile.gif
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The main thing is to devote more time to education. This will help you not to worry before the exam and get a high mark. If you need the help of professional writers, then you should turn to a writing service for a dissertation and read more about it. It is cheap enough and does not require much time.
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My friend have failed for the 3rd time. Any advice? He is 25 this year.
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Did he study full time at uni or self study at home

 

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