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Einjahr
post Sep 23 2014, 10:55 AM

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death to america
death to israel
death to asia
death to death

lol
Einjahr
post Sep 23 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(yuusuke-kun @ Sep 23 2014, 11:00 AM)
US should consider them a major threat, far dangerous and intimidating more than Saddam and Gadaffi by taking drastic and quick action through offensive campaign against this ISIS pests before they spread diseases around the world..

if US really kisah lah.
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muslim countries declare war on isis? commit ground troops
Einjahr
post Sep 23 2014, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Xander-G @ Sep 23 2014, 02:01 PM)
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

Tabari 9:69 - "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" . The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.


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From these, i believe if you (muslims) are very religious to your religion and follow 200% according to Quran and islamic teaching, you are actually developing yourself to become an extremist or jihadist.

ps: Not trying to put salt on the wound but these are words found in Quran. If this doesn't promoting violence than what it is? if my findings is not accurate, do inform me with precise source of yours.

Don't ban me just yet.
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Can you read the entire passage instead of cherry picking verse by verse to paint a picture of your liking? When you read a book, you read the WHOLE story instead of picking up pieces of it to cook up your own version.

And btw At-Tabari is not even a reliable source, he has a chain of interpretation errors of his own making.
just wanna ask you a very simple question,
If Islam is all about killing 'infidels than why didn't the Prophet forced his own uncle to accept Islam? Yet his uncle, Abu Talib remained a non muslim till the day he died.

This post has been edited by Einjahr: Sep 23 2014, 02:23 PM
Einjahr
post Sep 23 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Xander-G @ Sep 23 2014, 02:26 PM)
ISIS was made in development of a group of perfectionists. Perfectionist in terms of to follow every inch of islamic teaching despite humanity and consideration of other religions. My post earlier are heads up of what ISIS have been referring to and you can imagine what they capable of doing.  A jihadist may happily bomb himself along people around him in the name of Islam and not humanity because they believe the reward is heaven in afterlife. While this is normal to be applied in war zone, but what happen to the civillians that are innocent? Who gonna look after them? Arent people like ISIS are selfish? killing people suka hati in order to achieve their own goal?
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doh.gif ISIS are heretics, they do not belong in any square inch of the religion.
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post Sep 23 2014, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Xander-G @ Sep 23 2014, 03:19 PM)
(1) Do you know why some muslims from different continents have different mazhab that they follow? Do you know some country allow muslim to marry to non muslim while some prohibit it? That is different interpretation and no one gets it right except the God.

(2)Muhammad didn't forced his uncle but that was before. But why today if a non-muslim lady convert to Islam and get married, got cheated after marriage and divorce by the husband. Will she able to convert back to her previous religion without be labelled 'Murtad'? in Islam there is no paksaan and is religion of peace right? so it shouldnt be a problem if a muslim to convert to another religion but the real fact is you cannot! So i dont know whats the logic of tiada paksaan?
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There shouldn't be any problem if they wanna convert out of the religion.. the journey of faith should be a personal one.
Who knows, one day they might revert back.

The passagethreatening muslims converting out of the religion with death is falsely quoted verbatim as evidence of intolerence when in fact the verse was talking about those who converted iout of religion to attack other muslims, which was actually during a time of war.

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