I tot last week was the wake up call...

Replacing manager is the worst thing to do here.. have some faith, u celebrated when liv win under BR u can't support him when he loses?

U win some u lose some, I know already some loses but it is not the end of the world. Again pointed out I never once see Liv buy super star even if they have target, they won't come. Proven player come with a cost, don't think Liv is ready to pay that kind of money transfer fee + wages. If he flops u just don't know how to get rid of him.. balo we got him cheap, don't think it was the best choice but some reinforcement.

World class striker I can't think of one player that is reasonable price + young + proven + willing to come to Liv.. if you have one name it coz I just can't think of someone

This post has been edited by kevafk: Sep 28 2014, 08:42 PM

LOL u sure bro? We lost both of the matches against Chelsea last season, and lost to both City and Arsenal away. We got 2nd place last season because we did extremely well against the lower teams on the table.


Are we becoming like Tottenham, or United under Moyes last season?


It's simple bro, we simply don't have anyone in front who can instill fear to the opponents' back four like Suarez did, or Sturridge. Balo, yeah he's good but he's too predictable. And he just can't seem to find that "space" to break through the defenders like what Suarez and Sturridge can. I trusted BR you know, when he said he was going for quality over quantity this season. But yeah, same ol' Rodgers. Of course, he's not the only one responsible for the transfers but yeah, he's the leader so.

Watched the highlights, Everton fans celebrated like they've won the league when Jagielka scored.

Speaking of transfers, BR is somewhat struggling to get big names to play for him.

" What about Balotelli???"

Balotelli is a BIG name indeed, often times he is famous for the wrong reasons. Of course, being a starting 11 in the Italian national side, he does qualify as a big name although the transfer fee does not justify his reputation, but can't help but to think that there are other factors in play. Is AC Milan in serious debt? Is AC Milan in a hurry to offload this problematic high profile striker? Balo is a genuine talent no doubt it, but he needs a team that can complement his style of play to maximise his efficiency. IF you are expecting him to drop deep and collect the ball and terrorize the flanks like Suarez or Sturridge, you will be disappointed for sure. His style is somewhat like Torres if I may.

Back to the point of transfers, ask yourself, who are the players that has really emerges from the shadows under BR's tutelage? Only Sterling, and Sturridge perhaps. I like to put Coutinho in, but he is blowing hot and cold at the moment. White Cafu? He had a good season, but still it's premature to call him a world class player. The rest are either mediocre (Xavi, Luis Alberto, Ilori, Aspas, Assaidi, Borini), not given a chance (Suso) or not living up to their reputations.(Mignolet, Sakho). On a side note, Martin Kelly is growing leaps and bound in Crystal Palace. Talk about what a breath of fresh air!

And everytime I read about Dusan Tadic, I feel like crying. This guy only cost 10mil to Soto and we splashed 20mil for Markovic. Both also Serbs. One is settling in nicely and the other is still looking disjointed. Scouts, try and answer this.

Some say the monstrosity of Suarez must be credited to BR. I totally object to this. He is already beasting in the Dutch League and WC before he joined us. As a matter of fact, I believe that a monster player like Suarez indirectly galvanized the entire team last season more than the manager himself. Think about the first 5 games we played without him on the side and think about the games he played in, and you see how different it is. That notion is not wrong.

Like I said, this season will be a litmus test for BR's credentials. He has been thrown all the support and time he needs in Liverpool and now it is the time to DELIVER the promises. And one more thing, giving good post and pre match interviews doesn't mean one is a great manager. It just shows one is good in English and nothing more than that. Mourinho says the darnest things, but as a manager, he is truly unbelievable.

This post has been edited by carloz28: Sep 29 2014, 12:34 AM

What worst is our B Team struggle to win against championship team, Middlesbrough during League Cup

lost yes.. see how they play...totally different

Signing a good player takes alot of time & effort. Like I hired a person for my company. She told me how good is she, good written resume.. demanded high salary. I don't mind I sign her up with 1 year contract but turn out? Totally opposite..

You won't know the quality until you actually signed and start working him the person. What I'm trying to say there is alot of if

Last season BR proven some point we got back to CL no? We lose 3 game so it is the end? BR out? BR needs to prove yet again? Why not point finger at owners? He hired BR no?

We should have gotten LVG or R.Martinez or DeBoer?

I tot last last week already wake up call.

Last season not just we did good against lower team but the bigger teams did badly against lower teams hence the 2nd spot.

Not just I miss the goals by Suarez also the assist he provided for others.

Balo is like another lambert but slightly more productive. So far it's a heskey and crouch kind of player good for holding balls and getting long passes. Finishing?! Hmmm

BR are so clueless on how to utilise his players. Such a waste.

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This post has been edited by strynch: Sep 29 2014, 12:14 AM

If I'm the owner and you are the manager, I'll fire you on the spot for giving me such a poor sorry excuse on hiring a departmental driftwood.

You can't just come up to me and say "Oops I'm sorry I dunno he's crap?" After wasting 10-20mil (using My marney) on transfers? We hired managers to make judgement calls like this and train them up to become an integral part of the team, and not just walk away if things do not work out. Managers should have at least have 50-70% accuracy on their abilities before sealing the deal. One can gamble with small fries & chicken feeds, and fine enough, you can have the leeway of getting one-two occasional duds if you do get most of your signings right.

BUT IF your dud list is way longer than your success stories stretching over 3 seasons, you'll surely be subjected to scrutiny. Means you have serious issues judging a player, either that or you have been fed with Scout Nation's Greatest Compilation videos on Youtube.

This post has been edited by carloz28: Sep 29 2014, 01:13 AM

Well Kenny Dalglish also squandered £100M also. And Hendo is a late bloomer.

Not sure about Brendan Rodgers's signing. If he can make Balo to think straight and get Coutinho to his limit, it would be great for your team.

That's how u run ur business.. But not how liv run I mean I don't know how it works in liv but certainly liv culture is way diff from others. At least for me..

But IF BR was my manager, because I hired him.. Things don't work well i take responsibility as well. So early in the season I won't call for silly pointing finger game or call for sack.

Now surely FSG know BR's ability, why not trust the owners? They believed in him, have some faith?

This post has been edited by kevafk: Sep 29 2014, 06:26 AM

Everton Game did show some liverpool intensity.
Balotelli cannot without 2nd striker with him, either sturridge or lambert. Lone striker again seems not able to perform because balotelli cannot run like suarez / sturridge.
Other than that, markovic, hopefully he won't end up like luis alberto.
Still prefer moving gerrard to CM instead, i believe in his magic .. lol
The defender in last game was on par performing. So skyrtel is crucial there.
Midfield there still lack of something, maybe joe allen can fill it in for more attacking moves. and.. Suso should be given chance, he looks promising.

truth is, any owner can do whatever they want because the club (legally) belong to them... so sacking managers is no alien thing...

lower your expectations. that really helps

get us top4 and long run in europe this season. this is the ideal thing. generate as much money from tele...

we dont need lightning quick, what we need is steady progress

what promise?

BR onli always promise to try to win the next game

If you don't know the person, you paid fresh graduate price, that's why fresh graduate generally won't able to fetch high wages, as employer don't know the ability of the hired person.

But if you paid 20K per month wages, you expect the person readily to slot in, and perform once the work started, not to come to learn and slowly find out what is your company doing, how your company doing business.

This season is make or break for BR and also will tell us that whether it is Suarez who make BR looks good or BR indeed is good.

I also don't agree of sacking, as final assessment should be done at the end of season.

But there is sign of money not well spent over the summer.

Liv's financial is not good like Arsenal, and still at loss every year.
There won't be 100 mil available to spend every summer.

The money available should be a good stepping stone for consistency to get 4th place onwards, if not, we may have the infinite loop cycle of rebuilding non-stop like past 20 years.

Unlike Rafa and Houllier tenure that finished 2nd time, they do not have such a money to spend to strengthen, but this time around, money is available.