Lol what what?

as in laugh out loud at that statement

If you have something to say plz do, else just keep quiet ya.. No offence

You claim that is funny right

no offence but ask me to keep quiet.. but really no offence taken..

You yourself say you say it again and again.
Me too I aint got no time to say again. cause it will never finish.

yea it is funny..

This post has been edited by AnythingK: Oct 31 2014, 09:52 PM

no time? Okay.. u never tell me what is funny.. Plz back your claim

Then I shall wait for cherroy coz I am asking him, he usually give me a proper answer

Hehehe

This post has been edited by kevafk: Oct 31 2014, 10:03 PM

seriously what the hell is going on la in this forum

guys, what time is the game tmr?

Everyone entitled their own opinion, we don't need to force other to agree on opinion, some said BR is good at coaching, some said no, no one is right or wrong here.
It is a forum discussion, agree to disagree.

Only result show us whether BR is good or not.
But almost everyone agreed BR transfer is the weak link.

The difference is now BR has more than 100 mil warchest to spent on players.
While back then little money spent, hence the expectation is not the same.
With more than 100 mil available, Liv should be at least should show some consistency in challenge in the top 4 but shows none at the moment.
Goals leaking, inability to score and out of 13 goals scored so far, 3 were OG.

At Anfield, the stat even worst, since the season start, scored 5, leak 4. A very poor stat for a more than 100 mil assembled team.

31 goals per season is something extra-ordinary, which generally is not a repeatable figure,
prior before Suarez still scored double digit goals, which is about average figure for a good striker. Not to mention plenty of woodwork hit as well.

The stat with Suarez full season with Liv,
17 (plenty of woodwork),
30,
31,

I don't see Suarez struggling to adapt with EPL since from the start with that figure. You don't label a 17 goals striker as struggling and only start scoring goals after second season with that stat.

30, 31, it means Suarez hitting top form, while 17 is still a very good number for a striker.
So the claim of Suarez needs 1 season to adapt is somehow not strong.

Also, this season is 3rd season in charge for BR, whereby we should see some improvement, although we do not expect Liv to challenge for the title or top 3, but not the like what had happened at the moment.
If loss of Suarez did magnify the deficiency of the team, then it just again proven the statement Suarez make BR looks better what he might actually is. (which I do not hope so as well).

The difference with Mourinho, people expect him to top the league, while generally little people expect BR to be at that level, but at least show some good fight on 4th place, which with current performance so far since the season start suggested a midtable level only.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Oct 31 2014, 11:25 PM

Many of us are far away and are at odds weather BR made some wrong moves in transfer. We are fans, maybe we don't have ears on the ground. But ...

We have someone closer to Liverpoolfc, a ex player, a player who served under several managers in liverpool, a highly respected liverpool player, Jaime carrager made a comment that Mario Balotelli is a panic buy from LiverpoolFC.

What gives carrager a right to critiqued one may ask? He knows we fu**d up during the transfer window. He knows we had money from the sale of Suarez.

Is he right? Or he should shut the puck up?

A interesting comment was made about [i]good/great[i] managers don't mess up a title challenging squad the following season, techinically you can. when the manager transfer buys is tied. runs with too lean of a squad with no money to reinforce the squad.

Arsenal, chelsea, manutd all had big kitty should wenger, mourino, Fergie in the past were to utilise it and they did and kept those teams challenging for top spots seasons after seasons.




Well maybe next season rodgers will be in luck, gerrard won't get his contract renewed next season. he then doesn't have a "passenger" on the team.

Maybe then his liverpool team will finally rise

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Nov 1 2014, 12:03 AM

I agree with you Suarez did not struggle the first day he came here, what i was trying to say on my previous post is with BR strategy, tactic and style of play works for him hence he scored more under BR. They suited each other, you can't just side Suarez where the whole team plays big part also. (add one also i remembered last season many say Suarez failed to score against big team and wasteful)

Indeed Suarez make Liverpool into a very good team, but again we were not expecting Suarez to leave when he pull a stun like that in WC. Now while mid way into PL, we lose Suarez and Sturridge 50+ goals between them. It's abit too much to ask for, dont you think we should give BR a break?

Moreover Sturridge + Balo has yet to start regularly together. They did against Spurs (which again he played at player's strength), there was a glimpse they could work together. Sturridge injured it was unfortunate, lets wait and see if they together could strike up? after all Sturridge is BR's buy

Chelsea already invested hundreds of million since 10 years ago, players come and go. The good ones stays, the bad apples gone. Build the team around these good ones, thats the whole idea. I see it in Liverpool, after FSG took over and they start to implement young players policy. I could only see Liverpool start seeing results after 5-6 seasons.

This post has been edited by kevafk: Nov 1 2014, 12:48 AM

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb...gerrard-8026513

Gerrard will go if no offer...

Oh, you know..just some people taking "agree to disagree" to a whole new level.

Well, I don't see us winning a PL trophy anytime soon, so it's maybe for the best? He has been a good servant for the club. Won everything except PL. I think it's time to build a team for the future, without Gerrard in it. We all know this will come sooner or later. He has what, 2-3 years left? If he leaves, I hope he goes to Spain. Atletico maybe.


Heartbreak for sure, especially after last season.



Says it all really about our transfer policy. Young, cheap and promising. Not sure whether or not any of this has been modified, but he sounds like he doesn't like what we're doing with our transfers. If we (the fans) are this frustrated with the current crop of players we have, imagine what he must feel...

This post has been edited by bitebug: Nov 1 2014, 01:47 AM

freedom of speech in action

Of course he doesn't like it coz time is not on his side... truth is this season will be his last chance of winning the league with Liverpool.

Can I disagree to agree instead? LOL

Anyway, January better comes fast. We are no different from last season in terms of leaking in goals. Just that we couldn't do that outscoring opponent thing again without SAS.

Oh ya. Break the curse of finishing outside UCL spot after getting 2nd place last season. It happened too often

I remember one of the fans here said everything Caraggher said is bull shit, because if he is really that good to analyse thing, he could had become a coach instead of a pundits.
Well I agree parts of it because as a pundit you had to say what the masses like, but hell most of his analyses and critics on Liverpool is totally spot on.

Like many said, we are not very far from top 4 now, but dont forget that we had used up most of the draw and lose quota to remain at top 4 so early of the season. If we manage to win most of the remaining match, then yea top 4 in the pocket, but can Liverpool do it? Only time will tells.

Aw come on about the coach and pundits.

It's about a choice of profession. Carrager being a long servant of liverpool certainly have witness years of ... Wait , not just one transition of liverpoolfc

He definitely has ears n eyes on the ground of Liverpool

He been involved with different managers, and probably picked up many points from them.

Being a pundit, Gives views to the masses? Well for one, being there meant, telling the world what carrager thinks.
Being mannered instead some angry raging guy would be a criteria as a sports pundit. But it's ultimately hired for what carrager thinks!

Come on

Totally agree, but will the owner, or BR ever consider of listen to some of Caraggher critics?

Being a pundit, you can make more money n less hassle job.. Only a good x player can be a pundit, and the rest? Some will become a coach.... A very few of these coaches will climb up the ladder n become a manager... Feel free to disagree.....

We acknowledge managing a team is definitely different. The course of the job is more difficult, one have to manage people/players, juggle all types personalities. Liaison between top management and those under him.

Carrager is entitled to his opinion being a critic (on football), just like wenger, mourino, fergie pellgarini etc.

To say carrager, because of his profession as a pundit/sports critic knows lesser football because is wrong.

He may choose to manage a team in his latter years. Who knows. If I'm not mistaken I think he is already owning/running a pub or something like that. In the future, who knows.



Would the owners or Brendan listen to carrager? I think they all listen, even hear fans views.

However,
"Taking it under advisement" ... well thats something different I don't think they change their road map (just) to accomodate pundits be it carrager or majority of the fans "wants" (on LFC marquee signing an all)

They have a road map charted for the club. It may not please everyone, but they want a balance. Profitable and (hopefully) get back at being successful (by winning throphies)

The first part is course something within their control, the second however is not. There are lots of circumstances and a host of other teams challenging for honours

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Nov 1 2014, 10:13 AM