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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0

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SUSJose Mourinho
post Oct 31 2014, 02:10 PM

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post Oct 31 2014, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 31 2014, 12:41 PM)
The book is a load of bullcrap.

I'd listen to Jamie and Gary any day of the year.
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You don't have to read the book or listen to J n G any day of year. You don't really need to read the opinions or the constant drivelling in here too....

But IF I may offer you a piece of advice..., Just turn on the telly n watch the games. Wake up next morning and look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if BR is really doing a good job in Liverpool. Thats all I ask.

Hope this helps.

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post Oct 31 2014, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 31 2014, 02:13 PM)
You don't have to read the book or listen to J n G any day of year. You don't really need to read the opinions or the constant drivelling in here too....

But IF I may offer you a piece of advice..., Just turn on the telly n watch the games. Wake up next morning and look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself if BR is really doing a good job in Liverpool. Thats all I ask.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for your advice, sir.

So I can't post my opinions here? sad.gif

Since you asked, I don't wake up every morning and look myself into the mirror and think about LFC. Maybe you do, but I don't. Must be frustating if you are doing that this season.

I do sometimes, think about LFC, like now.

My opinion - if you don't mind - he did exceptionally well last season. He can do much better this season, and I strongly believe he will. I may be a lap dog or whatever, but I think the team and himself will learn and will bounce back. smile.gif

Lap dog/optimist/blind faith/apa-apa la.

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post Oct 31 2014, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 31 2014, 02:26 PM)
Thanks for your advice, sir.

So I can't post my opinions here? sad.gif
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If there's anyone stopping you from posting opinions here, feel free to contact cherroy or the TS. I believe in freedom of speech in here.

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 31 2014, 02:37 PM)
If there's anyone stopping you from posting opinions here, feel free to contact cherroy or the TS. I believe in freedom of speech in here.
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Okay I will.

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post Oct 31 2014, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Oct 31 2014, 02:41 PM)
Then don't label my opinion as constant drivelling la.
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I was referring to the constant drivelling from my end if that makes you feel better

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post Oct 31 2014, 02:51 PM

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does falcao done enough for Manchester this season?
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post Oct 31 2014, 03:51 PM

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If BR still can deliver without Suarez (the loss of Suarez being compensated by >100 mil spending), then it proves he is indeed a good manager that can manage team on top.
A good manager always (without money to spend, then another story) can deliver despite change of personnel.

There is no contradiction on the claim of Suarez make BR good. As if BR is really good, he should be able to deliver as well (people may not expect to be second again, but not as poor as current display is).

So far the claim Suarez make BR look good still rather valid unless proven otherwise, by then this claim should be retracted.

Regarding BR played into strength of Suarez, it is the manager job that being paid few mil annual wages to deliver result and set right the team.

If it clicked, both deserved applaud.
If doesn't, then it is manager responsibility to get it right.

The different between average manager and top manager, top manager like

AF's, his team changed so many personnel, from Cantona, Beckham, Keane, Ronaldo, Rooney, MU still able to win the league and stay on top.

Same with AW, consistent at top 4, despite changing many players around.

Same with Mourinho, managing different players, different team, still winning or stay near on top.

You don't see their team crumbling down straight away (yes, performance may drop down but not as poor as being battled by relegation threaten team), from heaven to hell just because loss of one player, even though he is world class. Unless there is no money to spend upon, then yes, it could send the team crumbling down, without any property replacement, which is not the case for Liv after spending >100 mil.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 31 2014, 03:51 PM)
If BR still can deliver without Suarez (the loss of Suarez being compensated by >100 mil spending), then it proves he is indeed a good manager that can manage team on top.
A good manager always (without money to spend, then another story) can deliver despite change of personnel.

There is no contradiction on the claim of Suarez make BR good. As if BR is really good, he should be able to deliver as well (people may not expect to be second again, but not as poor as current display is).

So far the claim Suarez make BR look good still rather valid unless proven otherwise, by then this claim should be retracted.

Regarding BR played into strength of Suarez, it is the manager job that being paid few mil annual wages to deliver result and set right the team.

If it clicked, both deserved applaud.
If doesn't, then it is manager responsibility to get it right.

The different between average manager and top manager, top manager like

AF's, his team changed so many personnel, from Cantona, Beckham, Keane, Ronaldo, Rooney, MU still able to win the league and stay on top.

Same with AW, consistent at top 4, despite changing many players around.

Same with Mourinho, managing different players, different team, still winning or stay near on top.

You don't see their team crumbling down straight away (yes, performance may drop down but not as poor as being battled by relegation threaten team), from heaven to hell just because loss of one player, even though he is world class. Unless there is no money to spend upon, then yes, it could send the team crumbling down, without any property replacement, which is not the case for Liv after spending >100 mil.
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Once upon a time, there's this Liverpool team with Suarez in the team. They finished 2nd in that season.
The next season after, Suarez was sold and bought Dejan Lovren. All the other players are retained. Liverpool is currently struggling.

It must be Dejan Lovren.
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post Oct 31 2014, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 31 2014, 03:51 PM)
If BR still can deliver without Suarez (the loss of Suarez being compensated by >100 mil spending), then it proves he is indeed a good manager that can manage team on top.
A good manager always (without money to spend, then another story) can deliver despite change of personnel.

There is no contradiction on the claim of Suarez make BR good. As if BR is really good, he should be able to deliver as well (people may not expect to be second again, but not as poor as current display is).

So far the claim Suarez make BR look good still rather valid unless proven otherwise, by then this claim should be retracted.

Regarding BR played into strength of Suarez, it is the manager job that being paid few mil annual wages to deliver result and set right the team.

If it clicked, both deserved applaud.
If doesn't, then it is manager responsibility to get it right.

The different between average manager and top manager, top manager like

AF's, his team changed so many personnel, from Cantona, Beckham, Keane, Ronaldo, Rooney, MU still able to win the league and stay on top.

Same with AW, consistent at top 4, despite changing many players around.

Same with Mourinho, managing different players, different team, still winning or stay near on top.

You don't see their team crumbling down straight away (yes, performance may drop down but not as poor as being battled by relegation threaten team), from heaven to hell just because loss of one player, even though he is world class. Unless there is no money to spend upon, then yes, it could send the team crumbling down, without any property replacement, which is not the case for Liv after spending >100 mil.
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But we're far from "out of top 4" aren't we?
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QUOTE(lil^pig @ Oct 31 2014, 04:05 PM)
But we're far from "out of top 4" aren't we?
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Yes, there is no final verdict until the season ended.

But since the season start, the performance was not encouraging so far.

Hope there is some improvement made to rectify the situation.


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post Oct 31 2014, 05:53 PM

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I would actually like to see how Toure and Lovren can perform together...Toure seems like a bit more stable in the games he's played this season.
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post Oct 31 2014, 06:07 PM

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Every player that comes into a big club has massive pressure and expectations on his shoulders.
The difference between a top player and a decent one is that the top player uses the pressure to drive himself while the decent player crumbles under the weight.

Doesn't take a genius to know which type liverpool has been buying all these years.

Even gerrard has said he would love a costa or fabregas.Unfortunately he has only gotten lambert and lallana.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 31 2014, 03:51 PM)
If BR still can deliver without Suarez (the loss of Suarez being compensated by >100 mil spending), then it proves he is indeed a good manager that can manage team on top.
A good manager always (without money to spend, then another story) can deliver despite change of personnel.

There is no contradiction on the claim of Suarez make BR good. As if BR is really good, he should be able to deliver as well (people may not expect to be second again, but not as poor as current display is).

So far the claim Suarez make BR look good still rather valid unless proven otherwise, by then this claim should be retracted.

Regarding BR played into strength of Suarez, it is the manager job that being paid few mil annual wages to deliver result and set right the team.

If it clicked, both deserved applaud.
If doesn't, then it is manager responsibility to get it right.

The different between average manager and top manager, top manager like

AF's, his team changed so many personnel, from Cantona, Beckham, Keane, Ronaldo, Rooney, MU still able to win the league and stay on top.

Same with AW, consistent at top 4, despite changing many players around.

Same with Mourinho, managing different players, different team, still winning or stay near on top.

You don't see their team crumbling down straight away (yes, performance may drop down but not as poor as being battled by relegation threaten team), from heaven to hell just because loss of one player, even though he is world class. Unless there is no money to spend upon, then yes, it could send the team crumbling down, without any property replacement, which is not the case for Liv after spending >100 mil.
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Disagree, if that's the case BR should be given time to adapt without Suarez. If Suarez made BR look good that you insist. Some of you said he's bad in coaching, now you said he is good but only flaw is the transfer. I admit they made some bad choices but this season's signing it's far too early to judge.

Talk bout Mourinho he was not pampered by star players!? Are you sure!? Even he is genius there is only 1 Mourinho available which he will never will come to Liverpool. He said it himself he will only go to a club with consistently money heavily invest into the team until they get the right player. Of coz you need a healthy business financially which liverpool isn't.

If Suarez were that great by right at very first year BR in charge we should have gotten to top 4 or win a cup or something. Why we had to wait BR's second season? Carroll isn't the player suited the new style, he wanted first team action and no choice we had to sell him. Then we get Sturridge to partner Suarez and did it pay off? Which is the right player suited the style hence second season league position.

The plan was on track.. Until Suarez pulled a stun and liverpool cannot afford go thru this crap again.

Again I say this again world class Suarez needed 1 and half season to adapt and start scoring goals, what's ur take on that?

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 31 2014, 04:02 PM)
Once upon a time, there's this Liverpool team with Suarez in the team. They finished 2nd in that season.
The next season after, Suarez was sold and bought Dejan Lovren. All the other players are retained. Liverpool is currently struggling.

It must be Dejan Lovren.
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Wrong, First , we dun have a good striker and the defence is equally poor and often caught off guard with the opponent team set pieces , Mignolet just let in goals without even trying to palm out and stood there dumb folded. We dun have an Alonso to pump in those good balls and our passing always find the legs of our opponent and not our own players. Our recent purchases are equally bad, to lazy to mention their names and Sturridge is still on extended "holiday".
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QUOTE(digilife @ Oct 31 2014, 08:03 PM)
Wrong, First , we dun have a good striker and the defence is equally poor and often caught off guard with the opponent team set pieces , Mignolet just let in goals without even trying to palm out and stood there dumb folded. We dun have an Alonso to pump in those good balls and our passing always find the legs of our opponent and not our own players. Our recent purchases are equally bad, to lazy to mention their names and Sturridge is still on extended "holiday".
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I sure you saw his sacarsm right? sweat.gif

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BR need to slap Mignolet and the rest of defenders.
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post Oct 31 2014, 07:50 PM

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Newcastle United v Liverpool

Newcastle have had five players sent off in their last four Premier League games against Liverpool.

Only Everton (13 v Liverpool) have picked up more red cards against one single opponent than Newcastle against Liverpool (11).

Liverpool have scored more goals against Newcastle in the Premier League (84) than versus any other opponent.

The Reds have scored 598 goals away from home in Premier League history.

No fixture in Premier League history has produced more goals than clashes between Liverpool and Newcastle (129).

Against no side have Liverpool won more often than they have against Newcastle in the Premier League (23 wins - level with their record v Aston Villa).

Daniel Sturridge has scored six goals in eight Premier League games against Newcastle, including four in three for Liverpool. He is likely to miss this game, however, through injury.

Fabio Borini has scored three goals in three Premier League games against the Magpies - he's not scored more than once against any other opponent.

Liverpool have won four and lost just one of their last seven Premier League games against the Magpies (D2).

However, Newcastle United have won two and lost just one of the last four home games against the Reds in the Premier League.

Papiss Cisse has scored a goal every 61 minutes so far this season, the best record in the Premier League of all players to have scored more than once.
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Looking this Chelsea's transfer dealing, massively amount invested. I haven't go thru other clubs yet

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiershi...-transfers.html

They already spending 150mil for a season 10years ago! Still want to compared ar.. Roman plz come in

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Oct 31 2014, 06:42 PM)
Again I say this again world class Suarez needed 1 and half season to adapt and start scoring goals, what's ur take on that?
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