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 HOW!? Regret buying Hong Leong Income Builder.., Any way to revoke & get back the money ?

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SUSPink Spider
post Sep 22 2014, 01:57 PM

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How to decide whether to terminate or continue?

(a) continue paying. X years later, how much will u get?

(b) stop now. take back RMx,xxx. Use the RMx,xxx and invest elsewhere. Use the money that u would be paying to Hong Leong had u not terminated the plan and invest. X years later, how much will u get?

If u not financial savvy, ask an accountant friend to calculate for u.

What is past is past, when making financial decisions, u consider only the future.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 22 2014, 01:58 PM
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post Sep 24 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 22 2014, 01:57 PM)
How to decide whether to terminate or continue?

(a) continue paying. X years later, how much will u get out of this plan?

(b) stop now. take back RMx,xxx (A). Use the RMx,xxx and invest elsewhere. Use the money that u would be paying to Hong Leong had u not terminated the plan (B) and invest. X years later, how much will u get from A + B?

If u not financial savvy, ask an accountant friend to calculate for u.

What is past is past, when making financial decisions, u consider only the future.
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For the benefit of TS, I PRESUME he/she missed my previous post.

YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT THE PAST, WHAT IS PAST IS PAST.


If u still wanna stubbornly think about "aiya, if I terminate now, I lose 30%++ of what I pay...can I complain to BNM and get back full?", I wish u good luck. At the beginning u kept the plan i.e. did not take up the grace period window to cancel the deal to "give face" to your friend, years later your friend quit HLA, u wanna get back your money on basis of u being "misled"? If I am BNM officer, I'll ask u go fly kite.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 24 2014, 11:00 AM
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post Sep 24 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 24 2014, 11:37 AM)
TS is not an investor else where can get suckered by this kaka?
Thus, TS can't think in terms of zero-sum now + future VS continuing being fish bait.
Well, pros & cons lor - we do need to feed the weaker ones to predators for a lively eco-system mar - then only will the weaker ones learn & get stronger OR weeded out sweat.gif
my apologies if it sounds harsh notworthy.gif
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Harsh but true laugh.gif thumbup.gif rclxms.gif
SUSPink Spider
post Oct 3 2014, 10:15 AM

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To be honest, I don't support TS and his story.

You only have 2 options, 1 only to be frank with you.
(1) Just surrender the plan and take back the surrender value
(2) Report to HLA and/or higher authority and claim mis-selling. But seriously speaking, YOU DON'T HAVE A CASE unless u cook up some grandfather story. To be fair to HLA, they'd most likely call up the (ex-)agent who is your friend to hear his/her side of the story. YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE TO REPORT/CANCEL the plan but you GAVE FACE to your friend and kept the plan.

Grow up, TS. And you don't deserve "help".

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post Oct 4 2014, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Oct 4 2014, 12:46 PM)
This is what happens when people get mis-leaded to think that the Investment Linked Policy (ILP) is for Investments instead of for protection.

Insurance has and always will be for its protection values, never for investments even if it is ILP.

Whenever anyone buys an insurance product, it is associated with the coverage (sum insured). The coverage given is not free and comes with insurance charges.

Here is the bummer, the insurance charges will go up as you get older (even the fund management charges as the fund grows).

If you are looking for investments, or even force savings, find a product that has the least charges (or better none tongue.gif).
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Those bummers where will look at charges? They only see "I pay RMxxx for x years, after x years I get back RMxx,xxx" whistling.gif
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post Jan 2 2016, 10:12 AM

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Cheat u 1 time maybe u are unlucky
Cheat u 2nd time maybe u are REALLY unlucky
Cheat u 3rd time...what it means? rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 2 2016, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 2 2016, 10:21 AM)
Actually not really. Once I claim from airasia cause for damaged for my bag. Repairs cost rm100. They cover rm50 only. Saying something is their policy of minus rm50 from the claim. Like that also can. mad.gif vmad.gif

If you tell me that's not cheating then I don't know what is it. Only coveting half when padahal expect them to cover completely.

But as you said, buy insurance only if you cannot cover your networth and to protect the provider family.
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"EXPECT." Key word there. Did u read the policy T&C before u click "buy"?

We also have people who bought "cheap" PA and EXPECT it to pay out upon death under ANY circumstances lor whistling.gif

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post Jan 2 2016, 10:31 AM

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People who have proper education, I expect u to behave like one.

U get what u buy.
U are entitled to what u signed up for.

U go to a restaurant and order charsiew rice, u get charsiew rice. If the charsiew rice fail to fill your tummy because u failed to grasp that u only get a large bowl of rice unless u ordered extra rice to go with that, that is your problem. U don't go scream on Facebook and complain to MCA Public apalanjiao bureau that the Kedai Nasi Ayam Tongsan tu penipu when u feel hungry within 2 hours of eating that plate of rice. Lu did not ask for extra rice, lu punya pasal.

U go marry a woman, she cannot conceive a child for u...MAYBE it's your sperm quality, maybe it's her eggs quality. Unless u sign a pre-nuptial agreement stating that u can divorce her with no strings-attached unless she can conceive, u cannot do anything about your wife. U GET WHAT U SIGNED UP FOR. If u did not read, it's your problem.

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post Jan 2 2016, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 2 2016, 10:38 AM)
Read through the thing. They didn't mentioned anything about rm50. I asked them (email) they told me you take the money or you don't take the money. You don't sign the paper, you won't get any money. You signed, you get only rm50. So if they want to play like that next time. I can play like that also. Ask the shop to write in the receipt for extra RM150.

If buying a cheap PA and they don't want to pay upon death, then it's cheating also what. As a PA is meant to cover usually natural, accident death. Am I not right? You pay higher premiums if you want larger amounts, and it to cover more areas.
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1. Why u no take the case to higher authority?

2. PA is PERSONAL ACCIDENT. Accident means things like car accident, fall down stairs, kena rob etc, die in your sleep, death because of illness, or death after having sex with 3 prostitutes ARE NOT DEATH IN ACCIDENT.

See? U did not do your homework. I stop here.

We're in 21st century already (if u have the Black & White, u can fight virtually anything, anyone, u can even take over a country), and u are a student (i.e. learned person). Behave like one. Don't listen to and behave like those pasar malam loudspeakers. yawn.gif

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Jan 2 2016, 10:42 AM
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post Jan 2 2016, 10:49 AM

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Key word - They SAY

Japs also SAY they were here to uplift East Asians lor whistling.gif
BN also SAY they dahulukan Rakyat lor whistling.gif
When u want a girl to open legs for u, u also SAY u love her only and forever lor whistling.gif


 

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