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Movies DC Presents: SUICIDE SQUAD, Smith, Hardy, Leto, Jai, Margot & Cara!

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6so
post Aug 4 2016, 03:01 PM

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Ermmm....uhhhh.....ehhhh! The movie sucks but not FF4 bad...just X-men Apocalypse bad to me!
Would I want to see more...well probably cause the ensemble cast are likable and hopefully they remember to tact a "story" with it next time. Diablo is awesome.
With David Ayer, remember to skip his even number movies. biggrin.gif
1. Harsh time - Pretty Good
2. Street Kings - Terrible
3. End of watch - Awesome
4. Sabotage - Terrible
5. Fury - Good
6. Suicide Squad - Terrible
7. Bright - ???
I won't call the rush production is the sole culprit for the movie downfall with the THR article. Greengrass did the Bourne 2&3 movies without a finished script at all. McQuarrie writing Rogue Nation on a day to day basis during filming. Do take note Suicide Squad movie is a big hollywood production which is the first time David Ayer is in. His earlier movies pretty much gritty situational set-up with meaty dialogue driving the story under the low to mid tier budget. CBM is all about generating expensive spectacle with a strict good vs evil trope in it. Not many people able to pull off deconstructing a specific genre of film making like Nolan,Kubrick,Fincher,etc...I'm not saying Ayer is bad just maybe he wasn't under the best circumstance when he sign on or he already had other developing projects with WB that came with Suicide Squad as a condition. Not every film director able to come up successful when they took a shot at blockbuster movie making. If his next movie is good and a big hit, maybe he will find more leverage with the studio heads.
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post Aug 4 2016, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(guarayakha @ Aug 4 2016, 04:31 PM)
^^The director isn't the problem though. It's the nervous executives.
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What WB did is no different from what Marvel did to Joss Whedon or Jon Favreau. Both have some not so pleasant experience being publicly documented in interview before. Playing the devil's advocate here, if Ayer's version is super good with a more serious tone underpinning the movie. Would the studio willing to shoot themselves in the foot if they do not find some fault with it.

If you have worked in any international corporate office before, there will always be people being accounted for any project that come with a big price tag. It's the same like if you employed an interior designer for a 500k renovation project. During the presentation you will be promised the moon and the stars. There are bound to be design tweaks and cost along the way. What looks good on paper does not guarantee it will work 100% in reality. The shade of the wall paint is off when under incandescent lighting, the materials selected not that good for sound proofing,etc...so isn't it your privilege to make changes or you just leave everything up to the interior designer even the final result does not meet your expectation???

I'm not saying WB didn't do anything wrong, all I'm saying no one in the world will get a free pass when you are given millions of millions to do a job unless you are doing something illegal or a crooked politician. biggrin.gif

No one in the world who wake up in the morning and say I'm gonna make a shitty movie because I can. There may be anxiety surrounding the making of a bad decision but definitely not intentional.

So stop making "basic" rhetoric, then again if that's your thing then it's your privilege to do so. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 13 2021, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(hybr1d3d @ Aug 12 2021, 03:45 PM)
MCU going to start sucking with Feminism/LGBTQ/Woke/SJW agenda from now on... it's already happening in the source material (comic) side.

If Kevin Feige really left Marvel due to Scarlet Johansson lawsuit, Marvel will turn into crap like what Disney did to Star Wars

It's really suck to let lazy-minded SJW dominating entertainment scene. They are ruining everything nowadays.
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Ah..Hah!! Another sighting of an alleged extinct Neanderthal in modern society. Forever projecting his tiny penis dominance to a progress society that don't give a flying eff of the sanctity to preserve stupid talking points of misogynistic and right wing racist leanings.

Just wondering why the eff are you stil using gamergate era talking points. The cool kids already moved on to Q and Hollywood eats baby and drinks children's blood.

You do realized that SJW culture just some stupid incel gamer language speak that peak like a decade ago and these are the same 8chan or 4chan racist assholes that lives in the internet.
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post Aug 13 2021, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(hybr1d3d @ Aug 13 2021, 10:42 AM)
If the story don't suck nobody would blame on these woke agenda, but Star Wars Ep 7-9 and The Last of Us part 2 are some of the great example how these LGBTQ/Woke/SJW/feminist agenda have been the focus until the story gone haywire.

And when people starts criticizing these toxic culture, immediately been named misogynistic and right wing racist.
Typical weak mind who always use naming to escape from the facts

Just look at what had happened to Marvel Comics after Disney acquisition:
https://poptopic.com.au/entertainment/comic...are-proud-sjws/

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Sorry that I didn't included in my original post that I have nothing against you bashing Disney but why use an outdated sexist and racist talking points. The only reason Gamergate blew up simply because the GOP/Fox News co-opted that talking points as theirs. Just like how Donald Trump hijack the Qanon idiots and provide platform for Proud Boys and Nazi f***s. So why use those lame ass talking points?
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post Aug 13 2021, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(hybr1d3d @ Aug 13 2021, 12:21 PM)
How is that sexist or racist?

The fact that all these agendas being prioritized instead of telling a good story is a toxic trend happening to hollywood movies and gaming scene.

I love 12 years of slaves for re-telling the unfortunate fate of Black people due to enslavement,
I had empathy for Jared Leto's character Rayon as transgender being mistreated in Dallas buyers club,
I enjoy Tomb Raider reboot and applaud Lara Croft remodel for more realistic approach
I like Ripley from Alien 1 & 2
I think Furiosa from Mad Max Fury Road is super cool

and the list goes on..

Why? because non of them push the political agendas hard on your face until the story screws up.
and if I'm intentionally making sexist comment, why would I love Ratchatcher 2 in this movie?

Look, Star Wars Ep8 made every male characters brainless fool like Chis Hemsworth in that Ghostbusters female reboot.
They even break the setting and character by turning Luke character into grumpy grandpa and made Leia superman flying in the vacumn space. WTF man.

Marvel comics is also heading this path now by lazy writing (diversifying existing legend characters and creating SJW-inspired characters instead of building new characters that tell inspiring / touching story.

So before giving label, look at the fact.
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The fact remains Gamergate was birthed at deplorable forum like 8chan. A hotbed for hardcore racist and loser gamer who post meaningless memes all day. Why use their offensive ideologies? Until there's no gender disparity, corporations will always pander gender and politics to make a quick buck. If Gamergate is the scorched element in pop culture, what has it accomplished? Yeah doxxing culture and cancel culture is what came after Gamergate. Anita Sarkeesian still around giving talks and Kotaku still publishes PC triggering articles. No the society didn't move one bit to Gamergate outrage. Scantily clad heroine still selling games and realistic female depiction didn't dominate the pop culture.The Gamergate forum now has evolved to Qanon and peddling misinformation day in and day out.

If you want to read great comic books that for sure you won't read DC or Marvel. Saga, Wallking Dead, East of Eden, Monstress, etc...are all current books that have won numerous awards and a strong following. Just that they are not mainstream. DC and Marvel are under big corporate overlords who's ultimatum is to maximize profit. Pandering to their demographic is not exactly SJW. Nike laughing to the bank with Colin Kaepernick woke advertisements. So until Marvel or DC is sustainable within the profit margin of corporate overlords, things will never go back to what was before where pioneers like Stan Lee or Jack Kirby strive to just storytelling and not making marketing agendas.

Just because SJW, Feminazi, trended on social media space doesn't mean their existence justify and has validation. Now Republicunts pundits are the ones still throwing phrases like woke and SJW to click bait their idiotic followers for views,shares and likes. So why are you still using this stupid fake outrage words?
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post Aug 13 2021, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(hybr1d3d @ Aug 13 2021, 02:54 PM)
Look, the first time i encounter the word SJW was when Star Wars starts getting shitty with those political agenda, I dont even know how the word were found nor care about the origin.
These people with agenda ruining the beloved franchise and culture is the only concern I have.
How good are you comparing to the rightist people you called out when you are easily triggered with the word SJW? Stop acting like a snowflake

To me, Both leftist and rightist are equally intoxicating and bring nothing good to pop culture, I'm glad that Japanese anime industry refused to bow to the agenda when they got questioned.
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Context is everything. Gamergate derived from butthurt gamers about some PC journalists. It snowballs to doxxing and cancel culture from sexist gamers who openly attacks female game developers. Racist swoops in to radicalise these idiotic sheeps. Then mainstream media conservatives hijacked this phenomenon to throw everything under the sun as progressive leanings as woke and SJW. What and how you use certain words reflects who you are. Granted you may not knowing the intention of the SJW phrases but just why perpetuate it's malicious intention by society's assholes. Social justice on itself is a positive connotation but under the gas lighting of deplorables it becomes these sexist and racist mantra.

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post Aug 13 2021, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(hybr1d3d @ Aug 13 2021, 02:54 PM)
To me, Both leftist and rightist are equally intoxicating and bring nothing good to pop culture, I'm glad that Japanese anime industry refused to bow to the agenda when they got questioned.
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BTW pretty sure majority of your favourite Hollywood stars, directors, comedians and singers are leftist. The only honourable conservative is Clint Eastwood and he doesn't participate in culture war. Maybe Chris Pratt is the next high profile right wing superstar who isn't an asshole. Then again I'm not snowflake enough that my political leanings will determine my enjoyment of whether the stars or directors who is left or right or not. All I care whether it is a good or bad movie, of course I'm not stupid enough purposely watch a Ben Sharpino produced movie to test my patience on his stupid right wing rhetoric.

Even this Suicide Squad is entertaining but really not breaking any new ground that haven't been done before. Pretty sure by the end of the week I would totally forgotten what the whole movie about and don't care enough for a second watch.

 

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